Which CPA offers DON'T involve mobile submit scams?

azmodien · 09-17-2011, 02:23 PM

It seems that every offer for 'win an ipad' or 'win a gift card' asks for a phone number and tries to lure people into subscribing to a $5/week charge. Even the ones that convert only at email or zip submit will still try and get people to activate a mobile subscription on the backend.

I know the tiny-print disclaimer on the page is "perfectly legal", I am just want to find a high converting offer where no one gets burned.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

jeffrey73 · 09-17-2011, 02:38 PM

I don't think with mobile they really get burned. You can always text "STOP" or something similar, and it stops charging you. Yes, it's kind of shady how it's set up, but when I've opted out of a mobile offer I really didn't want it has always completely STOPPED at that point. I can't speak for how every company operates though.

It doesn't continue on and on (like pulling teeth) trying to get a scammy re-bill reversed.

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Originally Posted by azmodien

It seems that every offer for "win an ipad" or "win a gift card" asks for a phone number and tries to lure people into subscribing to a $5/week charge. Even the ones that convert at email or zip submit will prompt the person to confirm their cell number on the third page. Maybe it is just more prevalent in Canadian offers (?)

I don't want to debate the ethics and how the tiny-print disclaimer on the page is "perfectly legal", I am just new to CPA and want to find a high converting offer where no one gets burned.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Kevin Rayman · 09-17-2011, 02:47 PM

Common mate! Mobile offers are not scams.. They are big $$$!
Just run massive traffic to them. Somebody will do them...
Recommended adsimilis for mobile offers..

azmodien · 09-17-2011, 03:18 PM

The only problem is that people are not getting anything in return for their $5/week. Its not the worst thing in the world, but I am also not sure these ipads and gift cards even exist to be given away.

I would love to make $4-8 per conversion, so I welcome any explanations on how subscribers are getting a fair exchange of value for their money.

ChrisBa · 09-17-2011, 04:44 PM

what exactly are you looking for??

mtmjohn · 09-17-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by azmodien

It seems that every offer for 'win an ipad' or 'win a gift card' asks for a phone number and tries to lure people into subscribing to a $5/week charge. Even the ones that convert at email or zip submit will prompt the person to confirm their cell number on the third page. Maybe it is just more prevalent in Canadian offers (?)

I know the tiny-print disclaimer on the page is "perfectly legal", I am just want to find a high converting offer where no one gets burned.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

If you know how those email submit offers (free ipad, free iphone etc) work, you will know the reasons. Check out this post for details - Understanding How Email Submits Work « Work for the Internet

azmodien · 09-18-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mtmjohn

If you know how those email submit offers (free ipad, free iphone etc) work, you will know the reasons. Check out this post for details - Understanding How Email Submits Work « Work for the Internet

Thanks for the info, it validated my suspicions about how these offers are used. The article paints a negative picture of the whole system, but is there different types of offers that you would say are more above-board?

kimtd · 12-29-2011, 08:52 PM

I have the same issue.

What affiliate in his right mind would run this crap towards their friends & family? Probably none.

Even the article says:

The email submit is the shadiest of all affiliate offers. CPA in itself is regarded as the shadiest tint of marketing, but submits are the worst by far.

Email submits are for suckers, I’m telling you!

They’ll make you rich though.

Ok.. i dunno if this makes me feel any better.

Zero sum game. That's what a lot of these CPA offers are... You might win, but someone is definitely losing.

I'll be honest. I ran some CPA free trial rebills.. till I started reading about the lawsuits, then I stopped doing CPA altogether.

So I asked myself.. how are free trial rebills any less "ethical" than, say, mortgages, cell phone bills, or even dating sites?

Simple: EXPECTATION.

If you are being billed with the expectation of BEING billed, that's what makes it "ok", especially in eyes of FTC and as far as your conscience as a marketer.

Of course with mortgages, cell phone bills, etc... these companies are actually delivering you value. With ring tones, probably not.

I still have issue with most CPA offers.. if there are any legitimate non-scammy CPA offers that actually deliver value, then i'll be glad to run them.

09-17-2011, 02:23 PM	#1
azmodien Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Which CPA offers DON'T involve mobile submit scams? It seems that every offer for 'win an ipad' or 'win a gift card' asks for a phone number and tries to lure people into subscribing to a $5/week charge. Even the ones that convert only at email or zip submit will still try and get people to activate a mobile subscription on the backend. I know the tiny-print disclaimer on the page is "perfectly legal", I am just want to find a high converting offer where no one gets burned. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

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azmodien Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which CPA offers DON'T involve mobile submit scams? The only problem is that people are not getting anything in return for their $5/week. Its not the worst thing in the world, but I am also not sure these ipads and gift cards even exist to be given away. I would love to make $4-8 per conversion, so I welcome any explanations on how subscribers are getting a fair exchange of value for their money.

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ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,130 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: Which CPA offers DON'T involve mobile submit scams? what exactly are you looking for??
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12-29-2011, 08:52 PM	#8
kimtd Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Which CPA offers DON'T involve mobile submit scams? I have the same issue. What affiliate in his right mind would run this crap towards their friends & family? Probably none. Even the article says: The email submit is the shadiest of all affiliate offers. CPA in itself is regarded as the shadiest tint of marketing, but submits are the worst by far. Email submits are for suckers, I’m telling you! They’ll make you rich though. Ok.. i dunno if this makes me feel any better. Zero sum game. That's what a lot of these CPA offers are... You might win, but someone is definitely losing. I'll be honest. I ran some CPA free trial rebills.. till I started reading about the lawsuits, then I stopped doing CPA altogether. So I asked myself.. how are free trial rebills any less "ethical" than, say, mortgages, cell phone bills, or even dating sites? Simple: EXPECTATION. If you are being billed with the expectation of BEING billed, that's what makes it "ok", especially in eyes of FTC and as far as your conscience as a marketer. Of course with mortgages, cell phone bills, etc... these companies are actually delivering you value. With ring tones, probably not. I still have issue with most CPA offers.. if there are any legitimate non-scammy CPA offers that actually deliver value, then i'll be glad to run them.