CPA Newbie

Ehsan_am · 09-23-2011, 08:03 AM

Hey Everyone,

I have been doing IM for 2 years now but I'm pretty much clueless about CPA.

With google cracking down on affiliates lately (Lost 3 amazon affiliate sites during the last 10 days), I've decided to give CPA a try. I'm not going to try paid methods for the moment.

I'm going to create a few information based sites and SEO them for traffic.

Any advice would be appreciated. Especially if you have any specific niches in mind ( I don't really know if I can find CPA offers in any niche).

Thanks in advance

clenard77 · 09-23-2011, 02:25 PM

The best way to do this with CPA and SEO would be to build a very general site (Weight Loss Blog) and promote offers within your content and on the sidebar (assuming you use Wordpress). This way you can always switch out offers (via tracking links) when they go down and never miss a beat.

If you try pushing the product in the SERPS based on it's own name, you'll have very little success as they tend to die out quickly.

Also, build an email list and use the list (and thank you pages) to promote offers as well.

ChrisBa · 09-23-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

Hey Everyone,

I have been doing IM for 2 years now but I'm pretty much clueless about CPA.

With google cracking down on affiliates lately (Lost 3 amazon affiliate sites during the last 10 days), I've decided to give CPA a try. I'm not going to try paid methods for the moment.

I'm going to create a few information based sites and SEO them for traffic.

Any advice would be appreciated. Especially if you have any specific niches in mind ( I don't really know if I can find CPA offers in any niche).

Thanks in advance

How have you been doing IM? If we know that we can proabbly help you with the jump from that to the cpa offers

IanGreenwood · 09-23-2011, 03:43 PM

CPA offers come and go. You would be hard pushed to dedicate a complete website or blog to just one CPA offer. You could discover that just as you put the site up the offer is withdrawn.

I like the idea of having a broad blog idea and filling it with related CPA offers. This sounds like a plan to me.

The thing that makes most CPA offers work though is traffic, and lots of it. Really don’t know that relying on SEO and Google ranking of a blog or site based around CPA offers would generate enough traffic to make it all worthwhile - unless you are doing banner ads / email list marketing / Facebook PPC etc in the background as well as Google ranking.

Hope this has helped. Be interesting to see if you can make this model work.

Ian

Ehsan_am · 09-23-2011, 04:35 PM

I was planning to go after a broad niche obviously. My main problem right now is that my money making websites get penalized massively by google (mostly amazon review sites) and my thinking was to go after larger sites with way more pages (50-100). It seems that the whole small niche focused site strategy doesn't work anymore.

I was thinking about getting into health and beauty and travel niche (two different sites) What do you guys think? Enough CPA offers on a regular basis for these niches?

cooler1 · 09-23-2011, 04:45 PM

Google doesn't penalize sites because they aren't sites with 50-100 pages. I see many sites with only about 10 pages of content getting 1st page rankings.

Are you using any duplicate content on your sites?

IanGreenwood · 09-23-2011, 04:49 PM

My day job is in health care (and has been for decades) so I know the market really well. The health and beauty market is stuffed to bursting with CPA offers and a lot of them are really easy to "sell" and are good payouts.

The travel market? - I don’t know so much about. I would imagine it’s got some nice offers.

The difference is that in health you are dealing with real problems and big numbers looking for solutions. The other thing is that there are big players that have deep pockets (health care providers, pharmacy companies, etc). This means lots of CPA offers with good payouts.

The travel industry has the big players but here you’re really dealing in luxury, not necessity like in health. Sorry, I can’t be any more help than that.

Ian

Ehsan_am · 09-23-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cooler1

Google doesn't penalize sites because they aren't sites with 50-100 pages. I see many sites with only about 10 pages of content getting 1st page rankings.

Are you using any duplicate content on your sites?

Nope everything is original. I didn't say that sites with a low number of pages don't get page 1 rankings. Hell I have tens of them. What I'm saying is that google is catching up and penalizes them. I think the whole problem is that google doesn't want any thin affiliate sites (Google calls them doorway sites) in the results anymore.

I don't really want to get into this discussion because no one knows for sure what is going on and each person has his own theories. I can only act on my own observations.

Ian, Thanks for the info. Beauty niche is a great niche. Lots of long tail easy keywords. It shouldn't be hard to get a site to 10k uniques per month.

09-23-2011, 08:03 AM	#1
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09-23-2011, 03:43 PM	#4
IanGreenwood Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK Posts: 17 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: CPA Newbie CPA offers come and go. You would be hard pushed to dedicate a complete website or blog to just one CPA offer. You could discover that just as you put the site up the offer is withdrawn. I like the idea of having a broad blog idea and filling it with related CPA offers. This sounds like a plan to me. The thing that makes most CPA offers work though is traffic, and lots of it. Really don’t know that relying on SEO and Google ranking of a blog or site based around CPA offers would generate enough traffic to make it all worthwhile - unless you are doing banner ads / email list marketing / Facebook PPC etc in the background as well as Google ranking. Hope this has helped. Be interesting to see if you can make this model work. Ian

09-23-2011, 04:35 PM	#5
Ehsan_am Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paris- France Posts: 659 Thanks: 30 Thanked 57 Times in 52 Posts	Re: CPA Newbie I was planning to go after a broad niche obviously. My main problem right now is that my money making websites get penalized massively by google (mostly amazon review sites) and my thinking was to go after larger sites with way more pages (50-100). It seems that the whole small niche focused site strategy doesn't work anymore. I was thinking about getting into health and beauty and travel niche (two different sites) What do you guys think? Enough CPA offers on a regular basis for these niches?
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09-23-2011, 04:45 PM	#6
cooler1 Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,874 Thanks: 69 Thanked 120 Times in 108 Posts	Re: CPA Newbie Google doesn't penalize sites because they aren't sites with 50-100 pages. I see many sites with only about 10 pages of content getting 1st page rankings. Are you using any duplicate content on your sites?

09-23-2011, 04:49 PM	#7
IanGreenwood Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK Posts: 17 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: CPA Newbie My day job is in health care (and has been for decades) so I know the market really well. The health and beauty market is stuffed to bursting with CPA offers and a lot of them are really easy to "sell" and are good payouts. The travel market? - I don’t know so much about. I would imagine it’s got some nice offers. The difference is that in health you are dealing with real problems and big numbers looking for solutions. The other thing is that there are big players that have deep pockets (health care providers, pharmacy companies, etc). This means lots of CPA offers with good payouts. The travel industry has the big players but here you’re really dealing in luxury, not necessity like in health. Sorry, I can’t be any more help than that. Ian