PPC to CPA

tyang · 09-28-2011, 10:56 AM

Maybe I'm behind here but seems like you can no longer link your splash page to your CPA offer. My adwords site was just suspended because of Information Harvesting, Promoting Free Offers, etc..

Is there anyway to promote free offers on google adwords anymore? Any alternatives that work? I tried 7search to little success.

Is PPC to CPA dead? or can it still be done?

jekis4sv · 09-28-2011, 11:39 AM

I tried ppc to cpa arbitration several times this year, and according to my experience it is dead.

tyang · 09-28-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jekis4sv

I tried ppc to cpa arbitration several times this year, and according to my experience it is dead.

It sucks, I was finally making some moolah and google decides to suspend me

Trying out Yahoo/MSN and 7search to see if I can get a good ROI.

Omid · 09-28-2011, 12:10 PM

If your landing page is like what Google Wants to see then it wouldn't be problem.

Make sure that you have read the AdWords guideline before creating your landing page.

~ Omid

tyang · 09-28-2011, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omid

If your landing page is like what Google Wants to see then it wouldn't be problem.

Make sure that you have read the AdWords guideline before creating your landing page.

~ Omid

True but what google wants is nearly impossible to do without any conflicting issues with their policies.

jonhkh17 · 09-28-2011, 01:23 PM

It is hard to work with google adwords, it is really true and impossible for us to make money if we follow the guide line and policy. They want no out bound link or direct to different website. Basicly is no affiliate link at all on landing page.

How ever all my ads disapproved by google adwords, and switched to Adcenter they approved with no problem.

PPC-Coach · 09-28-2011, 01:38 PM

I love it when a traffic source is declared "dead" as it reduces my competition dramatically as the herd moves onto the next shiny object that is "alive"?

It's not dead, but the rules have changed and if you do not adapt and give them what they want, you will be banned by them.

So just give them what they want and be a bit creative in how you monetize your site. You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.

It's a lot more work, but the result is the same or better. This girl will now go out with you again in the future and it will get to the point where a date is "implied" on a Saturday night. It could even lead to marriage where you do things together without even having to discuss every little detail because she knows you very well now and trusts you.

Could you apply that to adwords? I can and have. If you can too, you won't be sorry.

tyang · 09-28-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jonhkh17

It is hard to work with google adwords, it is really true and impossible for us to make money if we follow the guide line and policy. They want no out bound link or direct to different website. Basicly is no affiliate link at all on landing page.

How ever all my ads disapproved by google adwords, and switched to Adcenter they approved with no problem.

Any luck with Adcenter as far as conversions go?

tyang · 09-28-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

I love it when a traffic source is declared "dead" as it reduces my competition dramatically as the herd moves onto the next shiny object that is "alive"?

It's not dead, but the rules have changed and if you do not adapt and give them what they want, you will be banned by them.

So just give them what they want and be a bit creative in how you monetize your site. You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.

It's a lot more work, but the result is the same or better. This girl will now go out with you again in the future and it will get to the point where a date is "implied" on a Saturday night. It could even lead to marriage where you do things together without even having to discuss every little detail because she knows you very well now and trusts you.

Could you apply that to adwords? I can and have. If you can too, you won't be sorry.

Great advice! I'm think of a new landing page style right now that might work, lol

shockwave · 09-28-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.

.....or...you could walk up to 100 girls in the bar and just point blank ask them if they wanted to sleep with you. I'm betting you could at least close 1%!

jonhkh17 · 09-28-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tyang

Any luck with Adcenter as far as conversions go?

I did ok, I want to tell different between adword and adcenter. I run the same ads, and keyword, same day, I see 6 conversion from google, and only 2 from adcenter. I would say google got better traffic, but it hard to get your ads approved.

Right now I'm no longer able to get my ads approved from google, which is slow down my entire income stream. I wished google still treat us right now same as 6-7 years ago.

PPC-Coach · 09-28-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shockwave

.....or...you could walk up to 100 girls in the bar and just point blank ask them if they wanted to sleep with you. I'm betting you could at least close 1%!

Three questions:

1.) Do you think any of the women would complain to security?

2.) Do you think security would kick you out of the bar?

3.) Would you really want to take the girl home who said yes?

tyang · 09-28-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jonhkh17

I did ok, I want to tell different between adword and adcenter. I run the same ads, and keyword, same day, I see 6 conversion from google, and only 2 from adcenter. I would say google got better traffic, but it hard to get your ads approved.

Right now I'm no longer able to get my ads approved from google, which is slow down my entire income stream. I wished google still treat us right now same as 6-7 years ago.

Your conversions arn't terrible I guess, got my first conversion today on 7search - spent 1.89 and made 2.00 for a whopping profit of .11

CTR was about the same as google, but way fewer impressions.

Waiting on Bing/Yahoo to approve me to test their conversions.

ChrisBa · 09-28-2011, 07:01 PM

Ppc is far from dead, you just need to try another ppc network aside google, like bing, 7search, etc

What we as marketers need to understand is we need to be providing value to our visitors and where our visitors come from. If you can figure this riddle out you will make a ton f money

tyang · 09-28-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Ppc is far from dead, you just need to try another ppc network aside google, like bing, 7search, etc

What we as marketers need to understand is we need to be providing value to our visitors and where our visitors come from. If you can figure this riddle out you will make a ton f money

7search is not looking good so far, is there any others that you would recommend?

PPC-Coach · 09-28-2011, 07:57 PM

7search doesn't work when you do it wrong.

99% of the people who use 7search do it wrong.

I've seen it a couple hundred times now.

Do NOT bid on 7search like you would anywhere else.

shockwave · 09-29-2011, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Three questions:

1.) Do you think any of the women would complain to security?

2.) Do you think security would kick you out of the bar?

3.) Would you really want to take the girl home who said yes?

1. Most likely.

2. See answer above.

3. Tough call. Guess that depends on how much we've both had to drink!

09-28-2011, 10:56 AM	#1
tyang HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 122 Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	PPC to CPA - need advice Maybe I'm behind here but seems like you can no longer link your splash page to your CPA offer. My adwords site was just suspended because of Information Harvesting, Promoting Free Offers, etc.. Is there anyway to promote free offers on google adwords anymore? Any alternatives that work? I tried 7search to little success. Is PPC to CPA dead? or can it still be done?
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09-28-2011, 11:39 AM	#2
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Omid Experienced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 552 Thanks: 24 Thanked 187 Times in 102 Posts Contact Info	Re: PPC to CPA - need advice If your landing page is like what Google Wants to see then it wouldn't be problem. Make sure that you have read the AdWords guideline before creating your landing page. ~ Omid
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09-28-2011, 01:23 PM	#6
jonhkh17 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Re: PPC to CPA - need advice It is hard to work with google adwords, it is really true and impossible for us to make money if we follow the guide line and policy. They want no out bound link or direct to different website. Basicly is no affiliate link at all on landing page. How ever all my ads disapproved by google adwords, and switched to Adcenter they approved with no problem.

09-28-2011, 01:38 PM	#7
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: PPC to CPA - need advice I love it when a traffic source is declared "dead" as it reduces my competition dramatically as the herd moves onto the next shiny object that is "alive"? It's not dead, but the rules have changed and if you do not adapt and give them what they want, you will be banned by them. So just give them what they want and be a bit creative in how you monetize your site. You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring. It's a lot more work, but the result is the same or better. This girl will now go out with you again in the future and it will get to the point where a date is "implied" on a Saturday night. It could even lead to marriage where you do things together without even having to discuss every little detail because she knows you very well now and trusts you. Could you apply that to adwords? I can and have. If you can too, you won't be sorry.

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ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,130 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPC to CPA - need advice Ppc is far from dead, you just need to try another ppc network aside google, like bing, 7search, etc What we as marketers need to understand is we need to be providing value to our visitors and where our visitors come from. If you can figure this riddle out you will make a ton f money
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09-28-2011, 07:57 PM	#16
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: PPC to CPA - need advice 7search doesn't work when you do it wrong. 99% of the people who use 7search do it wrong. I've seen it a couple hundred times now. Do NOT bid on 7search like you would anywhere else.