CPA Fraud

swatz89 · 10-03-2011, 08:28 AM

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

jackyt09 · 10-03-2011, 08:31 AM

I think they will be ban your aff acc and dont pay anymoney

nickdamodda · 10-03-2011, 08:38 AM

I think it depends on the network. If they're just starting, sue you to have money to pay of their affiliates. If they're big already more than likely just ban you and threaten to sue to scare fraudsters off.

swatz89 · 10-03-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jackyt09

I think they will be ban your aff acc and dont pay anymoney

ok, then thats not the big thing for fraudsters. cheers.

Naveen K · 10-03-2011, 08:40 AM

In short you are going to lose one of your important source of income.
Avoid trying those things.

swatz89 · 10-03-2011, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nickdamodda

I think it depends on the network. If they're just starting, sue you to have money to pay of their affiliates. If they're big already more than likely just ban you and threaten to sue to scare fraudsters off.

so they will just threaten u and dnt take any action?

nickdamodda · 10-03-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

so they will just threaten u and dnt take any action?

Like I said, it depends. It also depends on the amount of fraudsters you're having on your network. If i owned a network I would sue the **** out of fraudsters to scare away potential ones.

swatz89 · 10-03-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Naveen K

In short you are going to lose one of your important source of income.
Avoid trying those things.

obviosly we dnt want to lose any good oppurtunity by becoming fraud. cheers.

Mahmoud Selman · 10-03-2011, 10:43 AM

You may get a warning or your account will be banned. Try always to deliver quality traffic.

JasonWestwick · 10-03-2011, 05:48 PM

It all depends on the severity of the fraud, if you have tried to milk a few dollars by getting friends to sign up then your account will be banned and no commissions paid.

However, if it is fraud on a significantly larger scale where thousands of dollars are trading hands the the repercussions could be quite sever.

Either way, it's not worth thinking about, stick to high quality legitimate traffic, once your name is tarnished it will be known across the networks.

wayne nunn · 10-03-2011, 06:04 PM

Today I received a notice from one of my cpa networks. It was a copy of a letter from an investigator at the local police department. Someone was playing games with payment checks, altering names and amounts. Needless to say, someone is going to jail.

Like any business, they don't fool around, steal their money and they will put you in jail.

Wayne

mtmjohn · 10-03-2011, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

I think it depends on what kind of fraud those fraudsters commit.

PPC-Coach · 10-03-2011, 10:35 PM

There's only one reason you're even asking this question.

Just do legit business, zero fraud and you'll be fine.

KimboJim · 10-03-2011, 11:10 PM

If it's just a few low-value clicks, then you will get a warning and then get banned. If you end up with $100 or more, you will probably get sued. It's never good to do though, because CPA fraud screws business owners out of their marketing money, and those people work hard just to have a marketing budget.

swatz89 · 10-04-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

There's only one reason you're even asking this question.

Just do legit business, zero fraud and you'll be fine.

i had post this discussion because i want to get aware of the rules of cpa marketing. also posting this discussion might be some fraudsters reading my post will get warning of the consequences. cheers

swatz89 · 10-04-2011, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayne nunn

Today I received a notice from one of my cpa networks. It was a copy of a letter from an investigator at the local police department. Someone was playing games with payment checks, altering names and amounts. Needless to say, someone is going to jail.

Like any business, they don't fool around, steal their money and they will put you in jail.

Wayne

are they playing with you. so had u lodged the complaint for fraudster?

1GreatCPA · 10-04-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

They will vanish you forever and they can post your information on forums for not to accepting any other network.

I have never listen about legal action against any publisher for fraud.

But don't try any offer convert after CC submit, Because Credit card fraud is serious offense according Federal law.
I listen so ........

ChrisBa · 10-04-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

This is an interesting question.. best case scenario you get kicked off that network and possibly blacklisted from all networks, worse case - you'll be sued for everything and locked up.. and everything in between..

Josh Ploose · 10-05-2011, 02:15 PM

After working behind the scenes, it's kind of funny to me how many frauders think they can get away with it. They don't realize exactly how much technical information we have on you about how you're operating. If a network is paying attention, they'll catch you for sure, but even if they're too busy to watch closely, the advertiser will catch you and let us know.

swatz89 · 10-06-2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

After working behind the scenes, it's kind of funny to me how many frauders think they can get away with it. They don't realize exactly how much technical information we have on you about how you're operating. If a network is paying attention, they'll catch you for sure, but even if they're too busy to watch closely, the advertiser will catch you and let us know.

so ru the AM of any website?

dissertationdeal · 10-06-2011, 01:56 AM

That looks crappy.

articuno · 10-07-2011, 05:45 AM

Yeah, you would def. be banned from their networks and some will go as far as to warn other networks about you so you will end up with no affiliates to join

chall vandenbergh · 10-07-2011, 11:25 AM

normaly they only ban you but if you bring them in discredit with there clients you gonna pay for it thats for sure most cpa companies make 100000 dollars a month they dont wanna lose that

Gaserik · 10-07-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

Do not waste your time on fraud. Learn how to make money without breaking the rules.

silent11100 · 10-07-2011, 02:43 PM

kicked out and this may affect your reputation in the market. Networks share information about users and if you apply for other network you may not get an account with them

Josh Ploose · 10-07-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

so ru the AM of any website?

Yes, Ploose.com

deeguy1 · 10-10-2011, 03:43 PM

Depends on what you're doing but you will most likely just suffer the banhammer

pacelattin · 10-10-2011, 03:57 PM

You will get kicked out, not paid to start.

If its major fraud, you may get sued.

The possibility of arrested and prosecution is more and more likely now, especially for large sums of money. I've helped prosecute five fraudsters this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

williamrs · 10-10-2011, 04:59 PM

They will ban you and hol your money.

Working with the networks is certainly a lot better than working against them. We already have enough obstacles to overcome in this industry, and having the networks and advertisers against you won't make things easier.

W

MoneyBagsMcgee · 11-05-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pacelattin

You will get kicked out, not paid to start.

If its major fraud, you may get sued.

The possibility of arrested and prosecution is more and more likely now, especially for large sums of money. I've helped prosecute five fraudsters this year.

How large were the sums of money that those 5 guys were making? Like an idiot, I gave my account to some guy for a JV last month, and he committed fraud on it. The network paid me like $1,000, but then after issuing the payment they banned my account. They didn't ask for the money back though. Should I contact them and offer to give them the money back?

Also, what kind of proof do you need to prosecute them? Were they committing CC fraud, or just submitting fake leads?

Royce Space · 11-05-2011, 08:27 PM

It looks like this guy have plans to do blackhat method. This business is all about right mindset, what would you prefer? Longterm business or Short term business?

Samrath Gupta · 11-06-2011, 03:46 AM

First of all

NEVER EVER TRY TO CHEAT WITH CPA NETWORKS !!

1- They will terminate/ban your account
2- They will forfeit your earnings !
3- They can blacklist your IP address
4- If you did a big scam to them, They can even do some legal stuffs with you !
5- They might can do many things which we have no idea !

PS: These are just my thoughts on what they can do.....

So please always respect your network be friendly with your AM and never cheat them

Regards
~Sam~

johnny125 · 11-06-2011, 04:52 AM

Since CPA Companies are totaly legal, and providing a legal business for me every try of scam them is very bad idea, and can have legal end

Hustle · 11-06-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jackyt09

I think they will be ban your aff acc and dont pay anymoney

That's pretty much it.
Or if yo you scammed them for tens of thousands of dollars, maybe they'd call lawsuits.

Kenster · 11-06-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

If you are breaking doing fraud then there is ALWAYS a chance you can sued, which if you don't have a proper business set up, can involve personal assets and personal wealth.

Pretty much every fraud breaks some terms and conditions. Most likely if you are just sending bad traffic or something then you will get kicked out of the network and that's it.

Keep in mind that networks share blacklists so getting banned from one network can lead to a domino effect and hurt your business tremendously.

At the end of the day, play by the rules and you will make more and last longer in this business!!!

jikanv · 11-06-2011, 08:14 AM

You are gonna end up putting just as much effort and energy to make the fraud work if you were to do it legit.

The fraud to be successful requires much planning and to consider avoiding every aspect of getting cought. Now if you are only one person, you can't possibly know how another one will think to discover your scam and you'll be cought.

So, why not put that same effort and energy into a legitimate plan and make it work. You'll be making more money. I mean just look at some of the people here on the forum. Making tens of thousands a month doing it legit. They are happy. Jail not hanging over their head, don't have to duck around every corner.

That money coan be yours and all you have to do is just copy what they do. COPY WHAT THEY DO!!

DOn't have to invent anything new. Capishhhhh?

Justin Lewis · 11-06-2011, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatz89

Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

Are you committing fraud?

If in any event you know of anyone doing it, tell them to stop.

It's illegal, it's stealing, and it's taking money from advertisers big time.

You could face jail/prison time, have something on your record whereas no affiliate, cpa, or ppc network will let you in, and be forced to pay a hefty fine.

Screw fraud.

Need to report it?

Internet Fraud Information | USA.gov

How to Report a Scam

FBI — New E-Scams & Warnings

Good luck.

10-03-2011, 08:28 AM	#1
swatz89 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: India Posts: 305 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	CPA Fraud Hi. I want to know that if anyone found doing fraud in cpa, what would be the result. Would they call or suit a case against you or they just kick you out of the network? Cheers.

10-03-2011, 08:31 AM	#2
jackyt09 Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 11 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: CPA Fraud I think they will be ban your aff acc and dont pay anymoney

10-03-2011, 08:38 AM	#3
nickdamodda HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 292 Thanks: 159 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud I think it depends on the network. If they're just starting, sue you to have money to pay of their affiliates. If they're big already more than likely just ban you and threaten to sue to scare fraudsters off.

10-03-2011, 08:40 AM	#5
Naveen K CpaAntiScrub.com War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 722 Thanks: 131 Thanked 240 Times in 147 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud In short you are going to lose one of your important source of income. Avoid trying those things.
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10-03-2011, 10:43 AM	#9
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10-03-2011, 05:48 PM	#10
JasonWestwick Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 602 Thanks: 158 Thanked 233 Times in 148 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud It all depends on the severity of the fraud, if you have tried to milk a few dollars by getting friends to sign up then your account will be banned and no commissions paid. However, if it is fraud on a significantly larger scale where thousands of dollars are trading hands the the repercussions could be quite sever. Either way, it's not worth thinking about, stick to high quality legitimate traffic, once your name is tarnished it will be known across the networks.
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10-03-2011, 06:04 PM	#11
wayne nunn Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Williamsburg, VA USA Posts: 39 Thanks: 16 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA Fraud Today I received a notice from one of my cpa networks. It was a copy of a letter from an investigator at the local police department. Someone was playing games with payment checks, altering names and amounts. Needless to say, someone is going to jail. Like any business, they don't fool around, steal their money and they will put you in jail. Wayne
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PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud There's only one reason you're even asking this question. Just do legit business, zero fraud and you'll be fine.

10-03-2011, 11:10 PM	#14
KimboJim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Thanks: 49 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Social Networking	Re: CPA Fraud If it's just a few low-value clicks, then you will get a warning and then get banned. If you end up with $100 or more, you will probably get sued. It's never good to do though, because CPA fraud screws business owners out of their marketing money, and those people work hard just to have a marketing budget.

10-05-2011, 02:15 PM	#19
Josh Ploose Affiliate Director Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 68 Thanks: 15 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking	Re: CPA Fraud After working behind the scenes, it's kind of funny to me how many frauders think they can get away with it. They don't realize exactly how much technical information we have on you about how you're operating. If a network is paying attention, they'll catch you for sure, but even if they're too busy to watch closely, the advertiser will catch you and let us know.

10-06-2011, 01:56 AM	#21
dissertationdeal Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud That looks crappy.

10-07-2011, 05:45 AM	#22
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10-07-2011, 02:43 PM	#25
silent11100 Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: CPA Fraud kicked out and this may affect your reputation in the market. Networks share information about users and if you apply for other network you may not get an account with them

10-10-2011, 03:43 PM	#27
deeguy1 Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: CPA Fraud Depends on what you're doing but you will most likely just suffer the banhammer

10-10-2011, 04:59 PM	#29
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11-06-2011, 08:14 AM	#36
jikanv Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Posts: 66 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: CPA Fraud You are gonna end up putting just as much effort and energy to make the fraud work if you were to do it legit. The fraud to be successful requires much planning and to consider avoiding every aspect of getting cought. Now if you are only one person, you can't possibly know how another one will think to discover your scam and you'll be cought. So, why not put that same effort and energy into a legitimate plan and make it work. You'll be making more money. I mean just look at some of the people here on the forum. Making tens of thousands a month doing it legit. They are happy. Jail not hanging over their head, don't have to duck around every corner. That money coan be yours and all you have to do is just copy what they do. COPY WHAT THEY DO!! DOn't have to invent anything new. Capishhhhh?
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