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I've seen too many of the same threads over and over again: "I cant make money!" "How do you promote offer x on network y?" "How to convert traffic on xyz network?!" It all comes down to a few things that I see holding people back. Since I don't have a blog or anything I figured I'd just use the WF as my soapbox. The #1 thing newbies have to realize is that getting offer to convert is not the hard part, getting right the traffic is. Once you can identify where and who the traffic is I guarantee that there is somebody somewhere that has figured out a way to crush it. Example #1. I had a couple I was privately coaching about this time last year on Facebook Ads. They bought one of my products, kept in touch with me on Skype and knew I was quietly crushing dating offers with Facebook and CPA. It wasn't before one of my last calls to them that I had an epiphany myself which turned my campaign to a strong $150-$200 a day earner (about 60-70% profit). What I told them to do is focus on pockets of traffic. I always tell people this. If you are not making money but are getting volume (100+ clicks a day) you are doing something very wrong. Alot of times you need to niche the traffic down. Pre-qualify your traffic on your creatives and banners. In facebook this is incredibly easy. Just rearrange your keywords into different campaigns. I was targeting a specific group with my dating offers but it wasn't until I figured out that by not niching my traffic down I was missing out on over doubling my conversion rate. How my campaign started: 1 campaign targeting all of a group. About 40% profit. Not bad.... Then I niched it down into 4 groups. 1. Male - non-religious 2. Male - religion 1 3. Male - niche interest 1 4. Female - religious I tried about 6-8 campaigns but these were the best. And guess what? My conversion rate went from 40% to 70% and I lowered my adspend with better CTR's while maintaining volume by simply increasing my budget. I could afford to lay more cash out when I was almost doubling it every single day. If the campaign dried up, I simply called my AM's and begged borrowed and pleaded to get a similar offer up. Doing this one time even resulted in me getting a private CPA of almost $7 on a dating campaign when the street was going to be $3.50, simply because the advertiser asked for more traffic and my network knew I delivered quality traffic. That's what happens when you niche it down. So how can this qualify to you as a new marketer? Basically, analyze your data and don't be afraid to requalify your traffic to a different market. Not niching it down: ![]() Campaign after niching it down: ![]() (CPA was $15-20) Ways to niche down?
In SEO this is equally important. Hopefully this rant fits all into one post, but I see a lot of people that create niche sites, do well and just let them sit. It doesn't matter if you have the #1 spot. Your goal should be to occupy as much of the first 2 pages as possible. How I learned this was back in the Acai days when I owned an acai review site. If you were around back then you know that hitting the first 8 results for any "XYZ Review" keyword was an easy $150 a day. But it was not easy to get there, and damn sure tough to stay there. I started reverse engineering one of my opponets and realize this guy owned 5 review sites compared to my lonely 1. So while I was trying to SEO my way to the front page with my site and maybe an articlesbase article, this guy was crushing it because he owned 5 sites and three of them always ranked in that top 8 for a given "XYZ review" keyword. He also had a full staff... which is something I probably should have done but I was dumb and rested on my laurels instead of building out more sites. There is no logical reason why people trust certain sites, click certain results. You simply don't know. Your domain might sound scammy to them. Your review might sound too salesy. They might hate the color green. Your font might be too small. You wont know so build out as many sites you can when you find a money maker. This also applies to adsense right now. When you find something that is working, build more sites and target the SAME keywords. It's always fun when your competitors realize that you own the entire front page and come to you asking to buy an ad because they cannot get past your sites. I think that's about all I really have to say right now. As a newbie I wish someone would have told me to just keep going after the same keywords and keep building the same campaigns instead of finding one, resting, and looking for the next hot thing. Don't get me wrong, you need to always be testing new sites, new campaign ideas but don't be an idiot and DOUBLE DOWN when you get a winner! I hope this helps someone. Ive been thinking about creating a blog for a while now, should I? Let me know if this helps someone out there! |
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Thank you for this post. It is quite motivating and makes me want to get back into advertising on Facebook. May I ask which network you get your dating ads from?
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BTW the screenshot I posted wasnt a dating offer it was an education offer. | |
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Absolute quality post, thanks for sharing. This is also especially useful for people who have started to make a little bit of moey but want to take their campaigns and earnings to the next level. |
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This was a very informative and awaking post. You are right what good does it do to be on page 1 and not making money basically. That is where I am at and have my site just sitting there. Now to figure out what campaign will work best and covert. Thanks for getting on your soapbox. It really helps. |
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Wow. Tons of great info in this post. Thanks for sharing. Yea, sure, you should start your own blog. I will add it to affdaily asap if you do. |
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Just wondering, where are the screenshots from? Is it some kind of tracking software?
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Very awesome post! This one should be stickied. I agree with John, you should start your own blog for sure. |
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Great information. Thanks for adding value to this forum. I really like the idea about SEO and occupying all the spots by only one person! That REALLY works and pays off! ~ Omid |
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Thanks for the great info!
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how to know more give reply thank u
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great tips that a lot of newbies may look over in this post! Read this post a few times guys!!
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Looks like I've been acting like an idiot for long long time. What I usually do is find a profitable offer, create a website, test with certian PPC networks and find out profitable keywords. Then I start searching another potential profitable offer and did the exactly sthings above. I think I will try this strategy and see what will happen.
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valuable post, taking some notes myself |
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You are absolutely right and this is the main process for earn more cpa.
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Thanks Cash37 for a great post! The main nugget I took away is niche-ing down traffic. You've encouraged me to be more analytical with my data, to dig deeper and to rinse and repeat! Have you started that blog yet? |
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thanks for the post...alot of valuable info here!
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great post.
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reat tips that a lot of newbies may look over in this post! Read this post a few times guys!!
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Good information. Keep it up.
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Great post, keeps us all motivated
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Totally agree. Too many want ONE big campaign to produce big numbers when the reality is a bunch of small ones add up and are faster and easier to get up and running. Goes for paid traffic and SEO. I think that a bunch of little producers isn't as "sexy" to them... |
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Great POST. How is your Conversation rate? which networks do u working? |
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Here is my question. How do you link to the offers? Do you have your own landing page? Do you design it yourself? |
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| I direct link most of the time, unless I'm going after a niche then I will throw up a LP. My LP's are just big ass banners I make in photoshop that link to the offer. Literally the page is one big image.
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You direct-link dating offers on Facebook still? I used to do it all the time until the disapprovals got too overwhelming. You must go through HELL just to get 1 ad approved. lol And even if I did get an ad approved, the impresssions would be so low it wasn't worth going through all the hassle to get it approved. I can imagine now you'd get a very high CPM cost as well, it used to be dirt cheap. |
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Great post, it's such a motivator hearing people's success stories as a beginner in IM! MZ |
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Thanks a lot for sharing such a wonderfull knowledge here !! I hope most of the CPA marketers will take advantage of it |
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Yes I just DL. I dont promote anything risque so when I get disapproved I just resubmit. Ive seen no difference in acceptance rate with LPs though Im sure it could happen. I do CPC so no CPM costs | |
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hi Cash , I wonder what is the minimum amount of dollar you need to put down on Fb Ads ? |
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Thanks for sharing! I have yet to try your approach and will report how it went.
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Hi newbie here, do we need website to promote CPA? Are you using Adwords to promote cpa?
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Thanks for sharing a great idea. Isn't it worth to create a facebook fan page, if you have done it so.
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Hey as a newbie working on my first campaign i really appreciate all the tip's you guy's are giving out for free. I have bookmarked this post so i can refer to it as i work forward. Tried and spent loads in the IM niche it's all lies!! so CPA looks more like the way to earn some legit income. Thanks again!!
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what amount of money you would recommend go on FB to advertise?
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What minimum amount of fund you would recommend go on facebook to advertise? |
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Damn! This thread is full of gold! Thanks for sharing... |
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Thank you for this post this is great im newbie and im trying to learn here
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Excellent post, thanks!!
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Hey Cash37, how can I apply what you said up there when using PPV traffic instead of FB, my bro'? What you said right here really "struck a nerve", , with me, as it's something that I have been wondering about for some time now, big bro':"What I told them to do is focus on pockets of traffic. I always tell people this. If you are not making money but are getting volume (100+ clicks a day) you are doing something very wrong." Hey Cash, I had a PPV URL-target yesterday that had already got *100+* clicks in only 2-3 hours; which is GOOD for just *one* URL! My landing page only got *one* click though even though it was VERY simple, effective, and offered the same thing as the site... If you have some wisdom for me my bro', please let me know; alright? THANKS! |
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