CPA Advertising best networks

morg2k2 · 10-10-2011, 05:33 AM

Hi guys,

I´m trying to promote some services i´m selling and tried to use a few advertisement networks like:

Adwords (too expensive)
Seedy Ads
Bidvertizer

About them well adwords seems to expensive for my keywords since they are very requested. Then i tried speedy ads but with nearly 100k impresions i´ve got some decent clicks but no conversions.
Bidvertizer seems a bit superficial, i don´t know the reports are not detailed at all and it seems that i receive more clicks then normally i should .... so i´ma bit worried about the honesty of them, about conversions forget it... no conversions.

So i would like to know what should be the better network to promote my services, they are SEO related so the keywords are always very requested and expensive per click (adsense can charge from $3-4 to $24-25 per click)

Thanks,
Morg

Derek Pankaew · 10-10-2011, 06:00 AM

PPV Traffic: LeadImpact and TrafficVance.

Bing. Not cheaper than AdWords, but tends to convert better.

Facebook. You can target very specifically people who're interested in SEO, or people just getting started in internet marketing.

Direct ad buys - Go to sites with your target market and directly negotiate a banner placement.

Also - The problem might not be that your traffic is too expensive, the problem might be that your customer value is too low. Other people paying for those high dollar clicks are making more than they're spending; if you can't make the same you'll have a hard time competing as they'll be able to outbid you on any advertising platform.

Kevin Rayman · 10-10-2011, 07:26 AM

Adwords is not really that expensive if you target the right keywords.. :P

Other than that, CPV is a really great traffic source.

morg2k2 · 10-10-2011, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek Pankaew

PPV Traffic: LeadImpact and TrafficVance.

Bing. Not cheaper than AdWords, but tends to convert better.

Facebook. You can target very specifically people who're interested in SEO, or people just getting started in internet marketing.

Direct ad buys - Go to sites with your target market and directly negotiate a banner placement.

Also - The problem might not be that your traffic is too expensive, the problem might be that your customer value is too low. Other people paying for those high dollar clicks are making more than they're spending; if you can't make the same you'll have a hard time competing as they'll be able to outbid you on any advertising platform.

I don´t mind to pay per clicks as long as they start to convert. What i´m selling are very specific SEO Services that is not focused for everyone since the price tag is normally in the high-very high price range.

i will try the PPV
thanks,

mtmjohn · 10-10-2011, 07:38 AM

Besides facebook ads, pof ads, bing/7search ppc, ppv and direct media buys, you can also try out some media buying platforms/marketplaces such as sitescout, adblade and adsonar etc.

ChrisBa · 10-10-2011, 07:42 AM

Wait a sec.. which type of traffic source are you looking for? PPC?

morg2k2 · 10-10-2011, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Besides facebook ads, pof ads, bing/7search ppc, ppv and direct media buys, you can also try out some media buying platforms/marketplaces such as sitescout, adblade and adsonar etc.

Thanks for the tips, i will check that out.

morg2k2 · 10-10-2011, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Wait a sec.. which type of traffic source are you looking for? PPC?

Well i´m trying to promote SEO Consulting Services that are in the 1.5k - 25k range (accordingly to package level). So even in many SEO ads the audience is not focused to this price range, thats why its difficult to convert.

Derek Pankaew · 10-10-2011, 08:20 AM

Hey Morg,

Okay - I'm gonna be a little harsh here. I just want you to know beforehand that I'm saying this in the spirit of wanting to help you out.

Your sales page is really, really, really bad. There is absolutely no way you're going to get PPC traffic to pay $10,000 with this kind of page.

Again - I don't mean to be harsh, just telling you what I see so you can hopefully make more money in the future.

In my opinion, you need a very different approach to sell a high ticket item like this. First, you need to get them on a list and build trust with them. Nobody's going to click on a link and fork over $10K without any relationship. You're not going to make $10K on a cold click if they've never heard of you - It just doesn't happen.

You make $10K sales by getting people in a list, building a brand in a space, building trust over time, getting them to buy a small product first ($150 coaching call?) then upselling them to a higher product once they trust you.

Also you have too many choices on your site. You have like - Hundreds of products. If I wanted SEO help, I wouldn't even know where to start. PICK ONE. Promote that one.

And improve your design. The site doesn't look professional right now - I wouldn't trust my credit card with this site.

Anyway - Harsh feedback, but I don't think you should be sending PPC traffic or any paid traffic to your site as it is.

morg2k2 · 10-10-2011, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek Pankaew

Hey Morg,

Okay - I'm gonna be a little harsh here. I just want you to know beforehand that I'm saying this in the spirit of wanting to help you out.

Your sales page is really, really, really bad. There is absolutely no way you're going to get PPC traffic to pay $10,000 with this kind of page.

Again - I don't mean to be harsh, just telling you what I see so you can hopefully make more money in the future.

In my opinion, you need a very different approach to sell a high ticket item like this. First, you need to get them on a list and build trust with them. Nobody's going to click on a link and fork over $10K without any relationship. You're not going to make $10K on a cold click if they've never heard of you - It just doesn't happen.

You make $10K sales by getting people in a list, building a brand in a space, building trust over time, getting them to buy a small product first ($150 coaching call?) then upselling them to a higher product once they trust you.

Also you have too many choices on your site. You have like - Hundreds of products. If I wanted SEO help, I wouldn't even know where to start. PICK ONE. Promote that one.

And improve your design. The site doesn't look professional right now - I wouldn't trust my credit card with this site.

Anyway - Harsh feedback, but I don't think you should be sending PPC traffic or any paid traffic to your site as it is.

I´d prefer an harsh and realistic feedback then a nice and unrealistic one.
About the design you are right we have tried to improve it, but since its a vendio store so i can cross-sell in ebay its has a very limited design in capabilities.
I have an issue is that ebay generates so many traffic and sales that i cannot live without all these products, for ebay business model its necessary to have too much services, so the odds of getting a sell its much higher.

Probably i will split the consulting services in a dedicated site, with a wordless platform that is much more user friendly and with a greater design.

Maybe then i will come back into promotion again.

thanks,

Derek Pankaew · 10-11-2011, 12:03 AM

Good luck =)

Andyhenry · 10-11-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pacelattin

AS everyone knows I love 7search.

How would 'everyone' know that?

You only just joined the forum and post links to your site in most of your posts. You don't use your real name. All your sig links go to the same site - the same site you keep posting links to in your posts.

We have no idea who you are.

10-10-2011, 05:33 AM	#1
morg2k2 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lisbon Posts: 145 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	CPA Advertising best networks Hi guys, I´m trying to promote some services i´m selling and tried to use a few advertisement networks like: Adwords (too expensive) Seedy Ads Bidvertizer About them well adwords seems to expensive for my keywords since they are very requested. Then i tried speedy ads but with nearly 100k impresions i´ve got some decent clicks but no conversions. Bidvertizer seems a bit superficial, i don´t know the reports are not detailed at all and it seems that i receive more clicks then normally i should .... so i´ma bit worried about the honesty of them, about conversions forget it... no conversions. So i would like to know what should be the better network to promote my services, they are SEO related so the keywords are always very requested and expensive per click (adsense can charge from $3-4 to $24-25 per click) Thanks, Morg
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10-10-2011, 06:00 AM	#2
Derek Pankaew Yeeeee Haw! War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,167 Thanks: 1 Thanked 214 Times in 66 Posts	Re: CPA Advertising best networks PPV Traffic: LeadImpact and TrafficVance. Bing. Not cheaper than AdWords, but tends to convert better. Facebook. You can target very specifically people who're interested in SEO, or people just getting started in internet marketing. Direct ad buys - Go to sites with your target market and directly negotiate a banner placement. Also - The problem might not be that your traffic is too expensive, the problem might be that your customer value is too low. Other people paying for those high dollar clicks are making more than they're spending; if you can't make the same you'll have a hard time competing as they'll be able to outbid you on any advertising platform.
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Derek Pankaew Yeeeee Haw! War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,167 Thanks: 1 Thanked 214 Times in 66 Posts	Re: CPA Advertising best networks Hey Morg, Okay - I'm gonna be a little harsh here. I just want you to know beforehand that I'm saying this in the spirit of wanting to help you out. Your sales page is really, really, really bad. There is absolutely no way you're going to get PPC traffic to pay $10,000 with this kind of page. Again - I don't mean to be harsh, just telling you what I see so you can hopefully make more money in the future. In my opinion, you need a very different approach to sell a high ticket item like this. First, you need to get them on a list and build trust with them. Nobody's going to click on a link and fork over $10K without any relationship. You're not going to make $10K on a cold click if they've never heard of you - It just doesn't happen. You make $10K sales by getting people in a list, building a brand in a space, building trust over time, getting them to buy a small product first ($150 coaching call?) then upselling them to a higher product once they trust you. Also you have too many choices on your site. You have like - Hundreds of products. If I wanted SEO help, I wouldn't even know where to start. PICK ONE. Promote that one. And improve your design. The site doesn't look professional right now - I wouldn't trust my credit card with this site. Anyway - Harsh feedback, but I don't think you should be sending PPC traffic or any paid traffic to your site as it is.
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Derek Pankaew Yeeeee Haw! War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,167 Thanks: 1 Thanked 214 Times in 66 Posts	Re: CPA Advertising best networks Good luck =)
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