7search PPC

bross · 11-08-2011, 08:06 AM

I was testing one campaign, it`s a clickbank product, make money online niche. The product is very hot, I spent $25 for testing it, CPC $0,41 and got zero conversion. Would you try another product or spent more on this one? Is dealing with MMO product a good idea at all?

If I make a sale I get $30 so I was wondering if I should spend more?

What are your experiences with clickbank products anyway? Is it a good idea to promote them on 7search? Is it better to go with CPA offers?

write27 · 11-08-2011, 08:19 AM

I have had the same problem...I've spent over $50 on 7Search- $25 for a Clickbank product and $25 for a CPM offer that only requires a payment for shipping and handling.

I'm wondering if the problem I'm is that:

1. I'm just impatient- and some sales will eventually come through because almost no one buys on the first visit.

2. I need to adjust my keywords and/or ad copy

3. I need to use this strategy with a Landing Page to presell the offers, instead of sending them directly to my affiliate link.

My guess is that if the sales page for the CB product is one of those long videos, it is especially important to have some type of landing page that summarizes the benefits of the product in advance. I, for one, get really impatient with some of the video sales letters because it takes a few minutes before you even get the vaguest description of what the software/Ebook/audiobook is actually all about.

Mahmoud Selman · 11-08-2011, 08:22 AM

It will be kind hard to sell products on 7search (you still can do it). Email-zip submits what works best for me.

jordanberg2311 · 11-08-2011, 08:29 AM

for 7search,
go for email submits, zip submits , dating..

most of the campaigns there generate me low ROI..but its set and forget

write27 · 11-08-2011, 08:33 AM

If you don't mind me asking Mahmoud, what is the maximum you would usually bid on 7Search for an email or zip submit? I have found that if I bid under .05, I get hardly any clicks. And I would think if you bid too much over that, most email submit offers would be unprofitable.

bross · 11-08-2011, 08:34 AM

Does facebook allow clickbank affiliate links or affiliate links at all in advertising or is there a need to have landing page?

Mahmoud Selman · 11-08-2011, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by write27

If you don't mind me asking Mahmoud, what is the maximum you would usually bid on 7Search for an email or zip submit? I have found that if I bid under .05, I get hardly any clicks. And I would think if you bid too much over that, most email submit offers would be unprofitable.

Hello write27,

It depends on the payout of the offer and the EPC. let me give you an example.

I am running an iphone offer that payout $1.75 per conversion. I know my winner keywords and my EPC for this campaign is $0.22 in this case I am able to bid $0.17-0.18 and still in profit.

First time you create the campaign you need to be in the top 5 bids and track your keywords to find the profitable one.

Remove the none converting keywords and start to analyzing the result for 2 or 3 days to be sure about the profitable bid for you.

Hope that helps.

Mahmoud Selman · 11-08-2011, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bross

Does facebook allow clickbank affiliate links or affiliate links at all in advertising or is there a need to have landing page?

Hello bross,

You will need to mask your affiliate links or use redirects. Landing page is a must have for a long term business.

Naveen K · 11-08-2011, 10:17 AM

For 7search I would rather go for SHORT FORM submit offers than CPS offers.

LukePeerFly · 11-08-2011, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen K

For 7search I would rather go for SHORT FORM submit offers than CPS offers.

Agreed and in my opinion you are paying too much for traffic on 7search if you're paying more than $0.08/click.

speedylikesKJ · 11-08-2011, 11:45 AM

Key is to find your winner offers on 7search . there are many factors involved in it , Very first thing kw traffic , than comes ctr and finally filtering bad quality . If you are getting low traffic there are two possibilities your selected kw has not enough traffic or if you are getting lots of impressions but no clicks than you should focus on your ad copy and rarely on ranking.if you got a good ad copy you will get good number of traffic even on 6th position if your keyword got good number of searches

write27 · 11-08-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahmoud Selman

Hello write27,

It depends on the payout of the offer and the EPC. let me give you an example.

I am running an iphone offer that payout $1.75 per conversion. I know my winner keywords and my EPC for this campaign is $0.22 in this case I am able to bid $0.17-0.18 and still in profit.

First time you create the campaign you need to be in the top 5 bids and track your keywords to find the profitable one.

Remove the none converting keywords and start to analyzing the result for 2 or 3 days to be sure about the profitable bid for you.

Hope that helps.

That helps a lot Mahmoud. Thank you!

aminur · 11-08-2011, 02:39 PM

as others said stick with free offers. Cpa offers works best with 7search traffic, dating, insurance, free stuff etc. Try different approach if you thinking of trying promoting cliakbank product again.

use high converting landing page. Try to put up sqeeze page and see if you get opt-ins so you can market them later.

cheers

3000 · 11-08-2011, 03:31 PM

Clickbank + 7Search = money wasted.

For 7Search I would recommend going with promoting CPA offers. I find that traffic from 7Search aren't really interested in buying products.

ossie · 11-08-2011, 05:11 PM

The offer you are promoting on clickbank pays out $30 so for each keyword you are running you would ideally need to a budget of $30 per keyword. Instead it would be better to start with an offer with a lower payout and that requires no credit card such as email/zip submits that pay say $1.50, which means you don't have to spend a lot per keyword to find out what working and to be able to optimize.

Then as you get more confident and you have stronger budgets you can test the higher commission offers that will usually require to create and test landing pages instead of just direct-linking as with email/zip submits

ChrisBa · 11-08-2011, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bross

I was testing one campaign, it`s a clickbank product, make money online niche. The product is very hot, I spent $25 for testing it, CPC $0,41 and got zero conversion. Would you try another product or spent more on this one? Is dealing with MMO product a good idea at all?

If I make a sale I get $30 so I was wondering if I should spend more?

What are your experiences with clickbank products anyway? Is it a good idea to promote them on 7search? Is it better to go with CPA offers?

Really it's hard to say.. you should always rotate through different offers, but your ads, keywords, lp will determine how you do..

generally you will need to spend more to get more data to know for sure, why not try an offer that pays less, it will most likely be easier to get conversions and cheaper to test

pacelattin · 11-09-2011, 08:20 AM

Everything works on 7Search, just make sure the price is low enough. Meaning simply, you can put ads up at .01, long tail keywords and you'll not get HUGE traffic, but a sale here and there. I put stuff out of boredom, probably does about $10-$12 a month in billing from 7Search but brings me lunch money here and there, if that makes sense? I don't really monitor it, but get a few $50 sales here and there over the month.

Top Dog Marketer · 11-09-2011, 08:33 AM

The guys over at 7search are awesome people. I can't remember his name but one of their guys actually walked me step step by step through the system and even sent me some special keyword reports, I could really tell that they appreciate your business.

pacelattin · 11-09-2011, 08:39 AM

The top guy over there is Charles Meyer cmeyer@7search.com

Tell him Pace sent you. Not sure it will help, but it will make me feel better during Xmas time when I get a bigger fruit basket.

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The guys over at 7search are awesome people. I can't remember his name but one of their guys actually walked me step step by step through the system and even sent me some special keyword reports, I could really tell that they appreciate your business.

11-08-2011, 08:06 AM	#1
bross Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 201 Thanks: 87 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Contact Info	7search PPC - should I try another offer? I was testing one campaign, it`s a clickbank product, make money online niche. The product is very hot, I spent $25 for testing it, CPC $0,41 and got zero conversion. Would you try another product or spent more on this one? Is dealing with MMO product a good idea at all? If I make a sale I get $30 so I was wondering if I should spend more? What are your experiences with clickbank products anyway? Is it a good idea to promote them on 7search? Is it better to go with CPA offers?

11-08-2011, 08:19 AM	#2
write27 Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 70 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? I have had the same problem...I've spent over $50 on 7Search- $25 for a Clickbank product and $25 for a CPM offer that only requires a payment for shipping and handling. I'm wondering if the problem I'm is that: 1. I'm just impatient- and some sales will eventually come through because almost no one buys on the first visit. 2. I need to adjust my keywords and/or ad copy 3. I need to use this strategy with a Landing Page to presell the offers, instead of sending them directly to my affiliate link. My guess is that if the sales page for the CB product is one of those long videos, it is especially important to have some type of landing page that summarizes the benefits of the product in advance. I, for one, get really impatient with some of the video sales letters because it takes a few minutes before you even get the vaguest description of what the software/Ebook/audiobook is actually all about.

11-08-2011, 08:22 AM	#3
Mahmoud Selman Selman.us War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 822 Thanks: 317 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts Social Networking	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? It will be kind hard to sell products on 7search (you still can do it). Email-zip submits what works best for me.
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11-08-2011, 08:29 AM	#4
jordanberg2311 Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 588 Thanks: 3 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? for 7search, go for email submits, zip submits , dating.. most of the campaigns there generate me low ROI..but its set and forget

11-08-2011, 08:33 AM	#5
write27 Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 70 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? If you don't mind me asking Mahmoud, what is the maximum you would usually bid on 7Search for an email or zip submit? I have found that if I bid under .05, I get hardly any clicks. And I would think if you bid too much over that, most email submit offers would be unprofitable.

11-08-2011, 08:34 AM	#6
bross Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 201 Thanks: 87 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Contact Info	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? Does facebook allow clickbank affiliate links or affiliate links at all in advertising or is there a need to have landing page?

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11-08-2011, 11:45 AM	#11
speedylikesKJ Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: World Wide Web Posts: 1,245 Thanks: 109 Thanked 245 Times in 181 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? Key is to find your winner offers on 7search . there are many factors involved in it , Very first thing kw traffic , than comes ctr and finally filtering bad quality . If you are getting low traffic there are two possibilities your selected kw has not enough traffic or if you are getting lots of impressions but no clicks than you should focus on your ad copy and rarely on ranking.if you got a good ad copy you will get good number of traffic even on 6th position if your keyword got good number of searches
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aminur Cpa Mastermind War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 707 Thanks: 46 Thanked 134 Times in 96 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? as others said stick with free offers. Cpa offers works best with 7search traffic, dating, insurance, free stuff etc. Try different approach if you thinking of trying promoting cliakbank product again. use high converting landing page. Try to put up sqeeze page and see if you get opt-ins so you can market them later. cheers
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11-08-2011, 03:31 PM	#14
3000 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 405 Thanks: 25 Thanked 38 Times in 34 Posts	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? Clickbank + 7Search = money wasted. For 7Search I would recommend going with promoting CPA offers. I find that traffic from 7Search aren't really interested in buying products.

11-08-2011, 05:11 PM	#15
ossie Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 55 Thanks: 8 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 7search PPC - should I try another offer? The offer you are promoting on clickbank pays out $30 so for each keyword you are running you would ideally need to a budget of $30 per keyword. Instead it would be better to start with an offer with a lower payout and that requires no credit card such as email/zip submits that pay say $1.50, which means you don't have to spend a lot per keyword to find out what working and to be able to optimize. Then as you get more confident and you have stronger budgets you can test the higher commission offers that will usually require to create and test landing pages instead of just direct-linking as with email/zip submits
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