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Old 11-17-2011, 10:24 PM   #1
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I was just wondering who are the best CPA coaches/resources to learn from.

Have you learned by trial and error or you had a great resource or mentor to guide you?

I guess for most people once you begin to make a thousand in a single day you would not even tell your own grand mother how?!

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I was just wondering who are the best CPA coaches/resources to learn from.

Have you learned by trial and error or you had a great resource or mentor to guide you?

I guess for most people once you begin to make a thousand in a single day you would not even tell your own grand mother how?!
There are those who do and there are those who teach..


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you will find many MOFO so called guru`s just teaching and they even don`t do stuff what they teach as they say it is best method and easy way to make money, Just one call like guaranteed $500 a day through CPA and newbies will run before you , lol .Want Real MOFO ? Catch Kenster Who is actually doing what he teaches

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There is a lot of good teachers and courses in this forum, but if you are seeking the best I recommend any read by Mike Morgan.

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I guarantee that almost every person that replies in this thread doesn't have a clue since they play about with slow WH stuff only.

BH is where the big players are. One of my friends is making $700k a month and hes not even classed as a big player in BH.

Trust me, BH is where the baddest "MOFOs" are.
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The TOP guys to learn about CPA from? Either Gauher or Ruck.

I also agree, you'll NEVER see the baddest CPA guys here at WF or any other forum. You will probably never even hear their names mentioned, ever.

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Ignore people you try to sell you secrets. They haven't made that much money doing this.

I've been doing online advertising since 1996/7, in one form or another, I've seen all these gurus come and go, every couple of years there is someone else...



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Have you learned by trial and error or you had a great resource or mentor to guide you?

I guess for most people once you begin to make a thousand in a single day you would not even tell your own grand mother how?!

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I learnt that all myself. I get information from everywhere free and learn them. Blogs and Forums give me lots of ideas and I work them from there
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Anyone can make money illegally. Being a scam artist and "BH" player doesn't make you a bad "mofo" it makes you a scam artist like any guy who robs stores, steals money from old people etc.

The real key is learning how to do things ethically and legally.

I get a google news feed for affiliate scam, online advertising fraud etc. What I read daily is about how someone in our industry did a facebook scam, a virus, some BH method and is now in jail, facing jail...

I promise being a an affiliate marketer in prison doesn't get you far. You'll be someone's b*tch.


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BH is where the big players are. One of my friends is making $700k a month and hes not even classed as a big player in BH.

Trust me, BH is where the baddest "MOFOs" are.

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I have no idea if that's true, but I find the most innovation in these forums.

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The TOP guys to learn about CPA from? Either Gauher or Ruck.

I also agree, you'll NEVER see the baddest CPA guys here at WF or any other forum. You will probably never even hear their names mentioned, ever.

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Most of the big mofo CPA players are underground type guys. There are guys pulling pretty incredible figures and you won't ever see their names published anywhere online...and they keep it that way for a reason. I am talking about the guys doing mid 5's a day.

I do pretty well but I'm a guppy compared to some players out there.

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Most of the big mofo CPA players are underground type guys. There are guys pulling pretty incredible figures and you won't ever see their names published anywhere online...and they keep it that way for a reason. I am talking about the guys doing mid 5's a day.

I do pretty well but I'm a guppy compared to some players out there.
Very true kenster.

Also, there are some warriors here who do BIG (5 figures a day) in CPA but you won't ever know them or published their names here. Hahaha.

For me, the Gauher Chaudhry is the KING of CPA, he over delivers, a very humble guy (I talked to him via email) and he really master all kinds of traffic.

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What I have learned by going to ASE and some of these other conventions is the ones that know how to email market are the ones that are pulling in the serious cash. If you can learn email marketing. You are on the right track.

There are some guys that I know in my circle who are pulling in mad cash, it is incredible what they pull in. Do I agree with it, nah but to each their own, right?

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Once again, Kenster is dead on with this one. No one in their right mind pulling 5's a day is going to come here to WarriorForum and start dishing out CPA "secrets". Not to mention for many ( Piranhas ) it would be a complete time suck.

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I do pretty well but I'm a guppy compared to some players out there.

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I was just wondering who are the best CPA coaches/resources to learn from.

Have you learned by trial and error or you had a great resource or mentor to guide you?

I guess for most people once you begin to make a thousand in a single day you would not even tell your own grand mother how?!
It sounds like their are 2 questions here

The baddest MOFO is cpa marketing.. good question.. I'm going to say... Kenster, his pic just scares me, I think he is going to jump out of my monitor and attack me

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Mahmoud is certainly is in the list.
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The only secret is hard work, and frankly pushing yourself. I come to WF to learn new ideas - and apply them to business models...

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Once again, Kenster is dead on with this one. No one in their right mind pulling 5's a day is going to come here to WarriorForum and start dishing out CPA "secrets". Not to mention for many ( Piranhas ) it would be a complete time suck.

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If any of these 'coaches' were truly making money in cpa marketing, the last thing they'd do is share their secrets to the rest of the world! So my answer is nobody, because all of the cpa marketers who are really good at what they do try very hard to prevent others from copying them!

There is certainly a 'baddest mofo' in cpa, just he probably isn't offering a coaching program for you to learn his secrets.
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Very true kenster.

Also, there are some warriors here who do BIG (5 figures a day) in CPA but you won't ever know them or published their names here. Hahaha.

For me, the Gauher Chaudhry is the KING of CPA, he over delivers, a very humble guy (I talked to him via email) and he really master all kinds of traffic.

There are Warriors doing 5 figs certainly ...but I think when you get to the mid and high 5's those guys are mostly underground.

One thing I've been trying to teach myself since I started (still working on it) is that there will always be people making a lot more than you. You will always feel poor unless you take a step back and realize what you do have and that compared to most of the world...you are probably sitting quite comfortably


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It sounds like their are 2 questions here

The baddest MOFO is cpa marketing.. good question.. I'm going to say... Kenster, his pic just scares me, I think he is going to jump out of my monitor and attack me

As for training/mentoring - there are several top notch courses available now.. just check out reviews on them

Wait, my avatar picture here at WF? Scary? Is that a call to action to change it? Maybe I'll do that right now!


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That's not true at all.

I taught my stuff in Commission Overload. The reason I did that was because I knew two things.

1. I knew that if people did it, they could make a full time living.

2. If they got too big and threatened my business, I could flush them out of the market in seconds.


People "teach" things for three reasons.

1. They buy something, rehash the crap out of it, sell it (and have no idea what they are talking about.

2. It doesn't work, never has and never will

3. Or they know the methods so well and have so much control over the market that they can sell the methods knowing that they have the ability to shut down anyone who gets too big.


People questioned me about that in Commission Overload a lot. What they don't get is that I post 20K or so per day, and my "friends" each do around that amount...some of them up to 100K per day.

I had to get their "ok" in order to teach the methods.

I also had to make sure that we had each others back in case someone got to big.

If someone goes out and posts 5,000 ads per day, they're making a very good full time income. If they want to push it to 25K, they start to threaten our businesses.

We all come together in that city, post the crap out of it and flush them out.

Another important point is that for most "methods" out there, there is an abundance of traffic. If I am making great money with PPC...I can teach 10,000 people exactly what I do and how I do it and even 10,000 people will probably not even dent my net income because there are millions and millions of keywords out there to be bid on.

Sure I'm not going to give people my exact keywords, but I can show them exactly what I do and how I do it and maybe 1,000 of the 10,000 become as successful as me at PPC and it still wouldn't hurt my income. If anything, the relationships you built by essentially helping 1,000 people succeed will prove to make you more money.

Same with banner advertising. There are millions and millions of placements you can buy. Same with most big traffic sources out there .

There is abundance.

I've never been a big product guy but people have this perception that all product owners make money by selling products and that's it and that all people making money wouldn't ever create a product. That is the case sometimes, but it's so far from the truth for many product guys out there.

There are a LOT of benefits that come from getting into products beyond the actual money made from the product sales...which in the scheme of things normally isn't that much.

Just my two cents

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Well, I'd have to disagree a bit on this one. You can work as hard as possible and push yourself to the limit doing things the WRONG way and gain absolutely nothing out of it but frustration. And if you don't realize WHAT you are doing wrong, then there really is no way to remedy the situation, and 9 out of 10 people will surely quit. There is also a lot of BAD and very "vague" information floating around out there.

Hard work and perseverance are both very important, but FAR from everything you need in order to succeed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm surely not saying that some type of "magic bullet" exists, but there certainly are ways to "beat" the learning curve, and some people are willing to share. However, like Kenster once said, no one is going to come on to Warrior Forum ( or ANY forum ) and start "giving out" their winning keywords, ads, landing pages, etc.



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LMFAO! Great answer Chris! I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read this response.

Kenster definitely is one bad-ass I.M. ( not just CPA ) MoFo for sure!

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I guarantee that almost every person that replies in this thread doesn't have a clue since they play about with slow WH stuff only.

BH is where the big players are. One of my friends is making $700k a month and hes not even classed as a big player in BH.

Trust me, BH is where the baddest "MOFOs" are.
700K a month you say? Have him take a screenshot of his CPA network's earnings, wow I would love to drool to that, lol. That is pretty sweet, but how black is black? Because if it's RGB 00 00 00 then it's a lil dangerous.....lol

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That is very impressive. The most ads I've ever got up in a day was 200, and even then I was worried about them banning my accounts. LOL

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I know alot of great mentors even though they have blogs on affbuzz I'm not sure if they would want a whole bunch of noobs flocking their emails in hopes to make some money...

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Yes, it's possible, but most of the people doing major money own their own companies and have products. Ie, CPALEAD who does $1m+ a month for networks like epic and neverblue...

ME? I made a lot of money buying banners, arbitraging CPA ($30k+ days) but only started raking in much more when I owned the banner network. Made a huge difference....

Unlike the "gurus" I don't talk about my business, don't need the FTC poking into what i do...


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I envy you, minus owning publications, all I've ever done is paid traffic... banners, ppc, etc.

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I've been online full time since 2001 and I've never used a single form of paid traffic in my life. So I can't comment on keywords and bidding and all that stuff.

What I can say though is that I've seen some of your products and posts and you certainly are one of the smarter CPA guys around here.

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I envy you, minus owning publications, all I've ever done is paid traffic... banners, ppc, etc.
You don't hit craigslist with 20,000 ads a day without some sort of expense. Youre paying in either infrastructure/systems or a bunch of time.

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BH is where the big players are. One of my friends is making $700k a month and hes not even classed as a big player in BH.

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That is an awesome question man thanks for asking, I hope we see some good responces to follow.
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great thread, I really enjoy learning about who's who on the forum and how successful some of the WF members are.

It really helps alot for a newbie like me
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