F17

is it necessary to discuss trafic source with AM of network....as i have zip code lead offer....and i have 1500 online workers....i will pay the workers and workers will enter the zip code... from 1500 different ip addresses....is it ok?

Bigj77

Unless the offer is cash incentive you cannot pay people to fill an offer. This is seen as blackhat and if you are discovered you will be banned from the network.

CPA Andrew

It's not necessary unless they ask for it. If you're doing nothing wrong there should be nothing to worry about.

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ChrisBa

Sounds like this would not be allowed, most networks would consider this fraud (assuming im understanding) - you want to hire a few people to keep signing up to your offer with different proxies to fill out the offer with e-mails?

You would also be pulled from the offer in a hurry as the backend traffic would not back out for the advertiser

speedylikesKJ

If offer is not cash incentive to be honest you will get

Brandon Tillman

Me personally I wouldnt really condemn anybody for using a certain traffic source that isnt listed in the offer and finding a way around it to still back out for the advertiser.....but this??? Thats just plain wrong and fraud. U will get banned from the network faster than you can say hello lol. If they dont ban you they will blacklist you from that offer but the next hurdle you got to cross is getting paid out from that advertiser. I wouldnt even bring this up to your AM honestly just putting yourself in the hotseat my answer is...DONT DO IT!!!

F17

thanx everyone for their posts...... but i am not talking about that there is just 5 to 10 people that will enter zip codes using different proxies..... i am saying that let suppose if 100 zip codes were enter.... there will be 100 people from different countries who entered their zip codes...and i will pay them..its kind of ppc...

bqpennell

You will not get paid. This is fraud not ppc. Below is the list of infractions you are breaking

1 - Incent on a non incentive offer
2 - Using proxies
3 - 10 ppl doing 100 leads will equal 10 duplicate user Agents.
4 - PPC is for clicks your paying them for leads this is not aloud unless the offer allows cash incentive and i doubt a zip submit does ( not one worth running anyways)

I can assure you there are to many tools now a days that you will not get one penny for this kinda lead generation. However if you do then this network will not be in business too long.

If you want to promote offers that way search for a offer that allows cash incent. Create a web page and offer a certain amount for completion of offer. However in the end i always fount incentive offers to be worthless and not have a long life span as the traffic is 99.9% crap as users are after the incentive and not the offer.

badboy_Nick

Haha, aw man you had me laughing there for a second.

Basically, what you are doing is simple FRAUD! All these leads that will be sent to the merchant will be junk, and you will not only NOT be paid, you might even have a lawsuit hanging above your head.

Stick to proper marketing, not these childish endeavours.

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pablo2011

sounds a bit shady to me

F17

bqpennell,
thanx for your post...i am a newbie..dont have any experience that why i ask this type of question....i understood what you post but your point 1 and 4 is good info for me... and at point 3,4 i think you little misunderstood me..i didnt said about using proxies and i said that 100 leads means 100 people...not 10 people doing 100 leads....
your post is really helpful for me

F17

bqpennell,
can you explain your signature please

bqpennell

I'd Be happy to, 1stclasscpa is a Network that has been in business for a little over a year now. I will be up front and assure you that all legit lead generations will be paid and not a dime will be paid for fraud. This is in no way accusing you of doing that but with the amount of fraud now a days you would be surprised how many attempt this then play dumb later asking why they was blocked.

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speedylikesKJ

I'm just going to be straight up.. These shortcuts never give you the happiness which you feel after spending $$s on traffic! Testing to find winners during testing , believe me, spending money and making a profit out if it (using legit ways) has its own feeling. Try it once and you will get to know what i mean.

~KJ

AdWorkMedia

Think of it like this. Our affiliate network and all others work hard to secure advertisers that allow incentive and non-incentive promotions. To do this, we have to continuously bring unique, fresh, and quality users. If you performed this method, it would be of NO value to the advertiser, and we would lose the great offers we stock! This method is short term gains, but if you want to make a lot of money think about the long term quality!

Josh Ploose

This is straight up FRAUD, botom line. The advertiser pays your network for leads based on the fact that they will make their money back plus more by selling their product to those leads. If you are just paying people to enter zip codes, those people are not interested in buying what the advertiser has to sell and those leads are worthless.

The advertiser will recognize this in a matter of days or weeks depending on the volume of your traffic, they will tell your network, and you will be banned no doubt about it.

jeffrey73

Could not have said it better myself.

JasonWestwick

Well, not really, PPC is a traffic platform that allows you to get offers in front of potentially interested individuals.

What you are doing is offering money for someone to complete an offer, as stated this is FRAUD and there is a big difference between fraud and PPC.

You seem to be missing out on a few key aspects to creating a long term income from CPA offers.

1. The leads generally need to convert on the back end for the advertiser, they need to see a profit as well. Therefore you need to send genuine leads and create a win/win for everyone. None of the leads you send through will convert for the advertiser.

2. RELATIONSHIPS - relationships are key in this biz and if you burn your bridges with an advertiser or network then you will struggle to find another who will take you on, communication is key and other networks will be informed and warned about you.

3. You WILL get caught.

4. Even if you do make a bit of cash and actually receive that money (very unlikely) this is so short term and not a model that can be expanded or scaled for further profits.

I hope you have taken on board the comments from everyone in this forum.

Kenster

Think about what you are doing. If your business model is about screwing any part of the value chain, then it's probably not a good and sustainable business model. There are exceptions, but that's generally how it works.

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