Facebook is bad guy

Duccorleone · 12-09-2011, 05:52 AM

I have ads with arrow and they says it violates TOS and now I see there is ad with arrow. I hate facebook

Duccorleone · 12-09-2011, 05:53 AM

I dont understand whey they disapproved me and approved for someone. Its really weird

MariusPrice · 12-09-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Duccorleone

I dont understand whey they disapproved me and approved for someone. Its really weird

I had the same problem on one of my ads and what you have to do is just see what you did wrong, read the rules again and see where is the mistake. In my case was one word on my fan page that i change it and they approve my ads.

Regards
Marius

mtmjohn · 12-09-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Duccorleone

I dont understand whey they disapproved me and approved for someone. Its really weird

Check out this: My ad was disapproved, but I see others that are identical. - Facebook Help Center | Facebook

(i don't recommend you do this, lol)

MariusPrice · 12-09-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Check out this: My ad was disapproved, but I see others that are identical. - Facebook Help Center | Facebook

That was good one

so now everyone will be out LOL

nicnac03 · 12-09-2011, 09:58 AM

Facebook is inconsistent with their ad approvals. I have ads that were denied the first time and then I resubmitted them UNCHANGED and got them approved. It's the luck of the draw and which person you get to approve your ads. /shrug

tylerjaysen · 12-09-2011, 10:07 AM

Ugh yeah FB is such a pain to advertise with. I made a thread on this topic too and am so frustrated with them and was banned ...and I still don't know why they banned me....

Might be time to advertise else where....eh? 7 search is a good 2nd tier advertiser.

Samrath Gupta · 12-09-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Check out this: My ad was disapproved, but I see others that are identical. - Facebook Help Center | Facebook

Ok guys everyone follow the FB rules and REPORT THE AD if you find someone's ad identical like yours

Time for useless revenge LOL

sith005 · 12-09-2011, 11:37 AM

At the end of the day Facebook is still a massive source of potentially highly targeted traffic. That in and of itself is reason enough to at least consider it (in my opinion).

This particular ad may have been submitted some time ago and has either not been re-reviewed or reported. There's a reason why the majority of advertisers on the platform picture a giggling, goofball with an IQ of 70 pressing a big red button repeatedly when imagining FB ad approvers.

Now anyone who has ever advertised on Facebook has at least one ad disapproval frustration story. Odds are you have many more than that. Unfortunately it's just part of the game at this point.

Any big traffic source that becomes highly utilized by creative individuals will eventually become stricter and stricter. This has happened with all the big PPC engines. Look 2 years ago and the majority of the hate threads were for Adwords.

The point is, yes it can be frustrating, but there is a ton of money to be made by advertising on Facebook (and Adwords for that matter) and I just don't want to discourage people right out of the gate.

That being said, you will run into inconsistencies in ad approvals, but once you have a better idea of what works and what doesn't, and you have a good history, you'll have much more approvals than disapprovals.

For the record, I tried to submit a handful of ads just like that (with arrows) about a week ago to test, and they were rejected almost instantly telling me the image violated guidelines.

jeffrey73 · 12-09-2011, 07:01 PM

Those arrows you used are a dead-giveaway for violating TOS and possibly being banned.

If someone got an ad passed that way then they beat the other 99% of interns. It's not worth it to do things like that, so it's better just to not take the risk.

annymorrie · 12-09-2011, 07:51 PM

Me too..:/

ChrisBa · 12-09-2011, 08:39 PM

I think you're kind of blowing this out of proportion and taking it too personally. They have different reviewers and let's face it, we are all human. No point in getting upset about it. Just try different ads, or you could even try to resubmit the same one, they might eventually approve it.

jeffrey73 · 12-09-2011, 08:51 PM

No, they won't unless he gets really lucky. Most likely what will happen is they will permanently ban his account if he keeps resubmitting ads that violate TOS.

According to different reviewers, that could mean anything.

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Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Just try different ads, or you could even try to resubmit the same one, they might eventually approve it.

aminur · 12-09-2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Check out this: My ad was disapproved, but I see others that are identical. - Facebook Help Center | Facebook

(i don't recommend you do this, lol)

Ha ha..Nice 1. wouldn't do that to any 1 because i know how much it hurts. it can get the person's account banned.

Naveen K · 12-09-2011, 09:18 PM

Yeah we shouldn't report those kind of ads, we should just consider ourselfs as unlucky.
That advertiser could be banned if we report but the mistake is not on advertiser side, the main culprit now is the person who reviewed and approved this ad.

jeffrey73 · 12-09-2011, 09:33 PM

In all reality, there is no mistake on anyone's part. The lucky person just got a GOOD reviewer for once. You are right that we shouldn't report these ads. Why help out these asshole interns? They are already bad enough on their own.

The least we can do for them, the better IMO.

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Originally Posted by Naveen K

the mistake is not on advertiser side, the main culprit now is the person who reviewed and approved this ad.

ChrisBa · 12-09-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffrey73

No, they won't unless he gets really lucky. Most likely what will happen is they will permanently ban his account if he keeps resubmitting ads that violate TOS.

According to different reviewers, that could mean anything.

This is possible as well, actually very likely. The point I was trying to get as is there are after inconsistencies in the reviewers

Naveen K · 12-09-2011, 09:57 PM

I mentioned that mistake is on reviewers side because he/she has approved an ad which violates their guidelines.
But reviewer is very generous person.

MakeMoneyJames · 12-09-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sith005

For the record, I tried to submit a handful of ads just like that (with arrows) about a week ago to test, and they were rejected almost instantly telling me the image violated guidelines.

If you want to increase your chances of getting something that violates terms (or potentially) approved its better to submit a bunch of more FB "friendly" ads and slip in the potentially "disapproved" ad. Doesn't always work, but you will have better luck that way!

jeffrey73 · 12-10-2011, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

This is possible as well, actually very likely. The point I was trying to get as is there are after inconsistencies in the reviewers

Good point!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naveen K

I mentioned that mistake is on reviewers side because he/she has approved an ad which violates their guidelines.
But reviewer is very generous person.

What violates their TOS according to one reviewer might be 100% different to another. So in one reviewer's eyes, the arrows would be perfectly fine. That means there would be no violation.

Shazia Mirza · 12-10-2011, 07:17 AM

You can always try uploading the same ad under a different campaign and have it approved, but you have to be pretty lucky to do that.

Furthermore, FB favors big companies that advertise with them. I've seen an ad from Panasonic that has every word spelled wrong (purposely).

If any of us try doing that, we'll have handprints across our faces.

ziko00212 · 12-10-2011, 07:55 AM

When you have thousands of ads to manage you can accepte some of them and refuse others even if they are the same ...

sanjon · 12-10-2011, 10:19 AM

Just create the same ad again and some one else miht approve it..
all those ads are checked by some moderators and if u ve been rejected, just change a few text here and there and you are good to go..

sith005 · 12-10-2011, 05:26 PM

A lot of info here, and clearly everyone has their own opinions. I will say again, lot's of potential on Facebook. Do what you want about the ad you saw, I'd personally not report it (karma and all), and it's not affecting me.

But to say that Facebook is pointless is kind of funny really. It's not super-easy, throw up a pic of a hot girl and collect $400/day like some people did 2+ years ago. But if you approach it with the right long-term mentality, there is a LOT of potential.

Regarding resubmitting ads until they are approved, I would REALLY think twice about this. If it's one or two ads, you can try doing this after a batch eventually is approved, but continuing to submit rejected ads over and over is a recipe for more rejections and possible banning.

jeffrey73 · 12-10-2011, 05:34 PM

Yes, Facebook is for sure a waste of time for anything other than making money. But the discussion here is about ADVERTISING and nothing else.

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Originally Posted by mafuz62

I think really to chat or joining facebook is a wast of time. In my experience i see most of people spent their valuable time in facebook. Which has no output.

jeffrey73 · 12-10-2011, 05:37 PM

Could not have said it better myself. A year or two ago you could resubmit ads for eternity. Things changed and they have cracked down, so pushing the limits is no longer smart unless you enjoy getting your account banned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sith005

continuing to submit rejected ads over and over is a recipe for more rejections and possible banning.

sadek · 12-10-2011, 10:44 PM

My suggestion to facebook,
YOu(read facebook) Should Reduce no of ads in a page.

Andrew Zapp · 12-11-2011, 07:52 PM

It all depends on the person approving your ad. If they see fit that the ad doesn't go against the TOS in their opinion then they will approve it whereas others may not.

HairyPoppins · 12-12-2011, 01:57 PM

I think it just depends who at Facebook is reviewing the ad. Sometimes I see ads that are in clear violation of rules and sometimes I have ads shot down that I can't figure out one rule they've gone against. The inconsistent ad approval/denials are just part of the Facebook ad landscape. You learn to get used to it after awhile. Sometimes you don't even have to change the ad just resubmit it and bam it passes. You just have to hope you're getting someone on a Friday waiting to leave work approving everything.

12-09-2011, 05:52 AM	#1
Duccorleone Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 73 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Facebook is bad guy I have ads with arrow and they says it violates TOS and now I see there is ad with arrow. I hate facebook

12-09-2011, 05:53 AM	#2
Duccorleone Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 73 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy I dont understand whey they disapproved me and approved for someone. Its really weird

12-09-2011, 09:58 AM	#6
nicnac03 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 220 Thanks: 38 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy Facebook is inconsistent with their ad approvals. I have ads that were denied the first time and then I resubmitted them UNCHANGED and got them approved. It's the luck of the draw and which person you get to approve your ads. /shrug
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12-09-2011, 10:07 AM	#7
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12-09-2011, 11:37 AM	#9
sith005 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 212 Thanks: 34 Thanked 109 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy At the end of the day Facebook is still a massive source of potentially highly targeted traffic. That in and of itself is reason enough to at least consider it (in my opinion). This particular ad may have been submitted some time ago and has either not been re-reviewed or reported. There's a reason why the majority of advertisers on the platform picture a giggling, goofball with an IQ of 70 pressing a big red button repeatedly when imagining FB ad approvers. Now anyone who has ever advertised on Facebook has at least one ad disapproval frustration story. Odds are you have many more than that. Unfortunately it's just part of the game at this point. Any big traffic source that becomes highly utilized by creative individuals will eventually become stricter and stricter. This has happened with all the big PPC engines. Look 2 years ago and the majority of the hate threads were for Adwords. The point is, yes it can be frustrating, but there is a ton of money to be made by advertising on Facebook (and Adwords for that matter) and I just don't want to discourage people right out of the gate. That being said, you will run into inconsistencies in ad approvals, but once you have a better idea of what works and what doesn't, and you have a good history, you'll have much more approvals than disapprovals. For the record, I tried to submit a handful of ads just like that (with arrows) about a week ago to test, and they were rejected almost instantly telling me the image violated guidelines.
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12-09-2011, 07:01 PM	#10
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annymorrie Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Facebook is bad guy Me too..:/

12-09-2011, 08:39 PM	#12
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,130 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: Facebook is bad guy I think you're kind of blowing this out of proportion and taking it too personally. They have different reviewers and let's face it, we are all human. No point in getting upset about it. Just try different ads, or you could even try to resubmit the same one, they might eventually approve it.
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12-10-2011, 10:19 AM	#23
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12-10-2011, 05:26 PM	#24
sith005 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 212 Thanks: 34 Thanked 109 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy A lot of info here, and clearly everyone has their own opinions. I will say again, lot's of potential on Facebook. Do what you want about the ad you saw, I'd personally not report it (karma and all), and it's not affecting me. But to say that Facebook is pointless is kind of funny really. It's not super-easy, throw up a pic of a hot girl and collect $400/day like some people did 2+ years ago. But if you approach it with the right long-term mentality, there is a LOT of potential. Regarding resubmitting ads until they are approved, I would REALLY think twice about this. If it's one or two ads, you can try doing this after a batch eventually is approved, but continuing to submit rejected ads over and over is a recipe for more rejections and possible banning.
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12-11-2011, 07:52 PM	#28
Andrew Zapp HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy It all depends on the person approving your ad. If they see fit that the ad doesn't go against the TOS in their opinion then they will approve it whereas others may not.
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HairyPoppins HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Newhall, California Posts: 351 Thanks: 4 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Facebook is bad guy I think it just depends who at Facebook is reviewing the ad. Sometimes I see ads that are in clear violation of rules and sometimes I have ads shot down that I can't figure out one rule they've gone against. The inconsistent ad approval/denials are just part of the Facebook ad landscape. You learn to get used to it after awhile. Sometimes you don't even have to change the ad just resubmit it and bam it passes. You just have to hope you're getting someone on a Friday waiting to leave work approving everything.