CPAveteran

I must confess that i haven't seen a Network with thousands of quality offers like EWA.I like their offers,they convert very well......but i have one issue with with them......International Payments.

I am one person who hates checks.Their wires are very expensive with high thresholds before you get them......hence sometimes you end up missing their weeklies.

I wish Ryan could introduce Paypal weeklies with threshold of $50.....right now you must get $3000 per week in order to qualify for Paypal and its not guaranteed even if you get that $3000.

If Paypal is not possible,bring on Payoneer Services.It will be a great savior to international affiliates.Several Networks have incorporated Payoneer.....from Maxbounty,COPEAC,CPALead to C2M etc.Give a threshold of $50 per week on this and i bet EWA will tramble all other Networks to the ground

1GreatCPA

EWA better know their network.

CPAveteran

I wish they could hear our cries.......all we need is faster payments to enable us invest back

MakeMoneyJames

A 50$ a week affiliate is nothing to a network.

They will get an influx of affiliates that dont make money.

You will have better luck finding a network that will work with you because i doubt EWA or any bigger CPA Networks will do that.

CPAveteran

May be you are not aware that CPAtank is doing $50 Biweekly,Maxbounty is doing $100 weekly,EnvyusMedia is doing $25 Monthly,Neverblue is doing $25 Monthly,CXDigital,CPAPath etc are doing $50 Biweekly.......so what are you talking about?..........we are tired of checks and un guaranteed $3000 weekly to qualify for Paypal..........someone like me do about $2K per week yet paypal is out of reach

MakeMoneyJames

LOL. You are wrong.

CPA Tank DOES NOT do $50 bi weeklies to Paypal or Payoneer.

CPATank is MINIMUM $500 for Paypal. And MINIMUM $10,000 for Payoneer.

Payments | CPAtank

As I said.

You will have better luck working with other networks that will work with you. Stop crying about EWA. Alot of there offers are brokered anyways and I can 99% of the time find a better converting and/or higher payout offer on another network.

bqpennell

Not gonna mention my source but of course there Brokered, CpaTank and Wolfstorm was Started by EWA. They have there own CEO's / AM but EWA Got them Started.

I do not know how it worked or if EWA is still associated with them but i know from source that this is how it was because this source was gonna do the same thing with us but we both decided to do our own thing.

Reddevil007

totally agree with you these three networks monitor pretty closely,you surely know this industry better.

MakeMoneyJames

Ryan and Vito are very good friends. I know Vito personally, hes a good guy. Its good if he helped Vito Get started.

Doesnt matter to me who helped who. All that matters is if the offer is top paying and converts. EWA from my past experience didnt have the top paying/converting offers. They win over affiliates by paying everyone weekly. Nothing wrong with that, but when you do over 1,000 leads a day even a 0.10 pay difference is over $100/day.

I prefer to go as direct as possible. It makes the difference between a winning campaign and a losing one. Not only do you get higher payouts, but tracking is more accurate. Most people are fine with brokered offers, but it makes a huge difference.

Out of the 700+ offers your network runs. How many are direct? How many are exclusive?

Whats the most number of redirects one of your offers go through?

RyanEagle

We are considering reducing the PayPal threshold (like we just did at BLAM Ads). Any changes will probably go into effect in Quarter two, 2012. Right now INTL publishers can get paid via wire if they don't make weekly threshold on the monthly basis.

I appreciate your feedback, if you have any questions feel free to contact me direct. In regards to EWA / TANK / ETC relationship - we carry none whatsoever other than friendship outside of the industry.

bqpennell

Oh Please see you are putting words in my mouth. Not once did i say either of these networks were bad. I was just saying that cause someone mentioned cpatank is brokered offers.

I personally think it is a smart move if you run a Private network that accepts referrals only or pubs making 10k a month to help jump start other networks to get a piece of the income from lower earning publishers as well. IMO it is a very smart business move.

I Believe EWA to be a great network just by word of mouth not personal experience and i worked with CPATank a long time ago and Vito is a good guy and the Tank is a good network, and i am sure by now after appearing at so many Affiliate Summit's they probably have several directs by now.

Edit: Forgot to answer your Question we have our share of directs as well as brokered just Like every network. Unfortunately only being in business for a year when we try to go direct with a lot of them they want to pay crap until you prove your self over a few months. I personally feel why would i run a credit report for $20 when i can get the same offer from a unnamed source who gives us more due to our agreement and rep with them and get 30.

When that is the case i will always partner with the source so we can compete instead of going direct at half price and paying crap for this offer hoping to get people to run it so we can build our rep up with the advertiser directly. I know personally i would not run that offer for 20 so cant expect others too. So yes i have made several decisions to broker over direct a lot of times due to this reason right there.

Personally i think (which i have seen many times) Direct offer or Exclusive Network name Offer pay 2.30, Then notice the pay is 4 to 5 dollars on the bigger networks. Sorry in that case the word exclusive and direct is not that important to me.

MakeMoneyJames

Glad Ryan cleared that rumor up.

You are misunderstanding.

I never said any network is bad. I only stated about brokered offers in EWA. EWA has tons of offers, however the ones I was promoting in the past they were brokered and didn't convert for me. EWA is a good network. However for what I promote its not the best choice. Every penny and every redirect counts.

And I never said CPATank has brokered offers. Where did I say that?

I agree, but as an affiliate it makes most sense to cut you out and go to whoever you got it from, because most of the time its easy to do so. $30+ for credit report is what I get it for and I dont really push that offer. Brokering an offer doesnt mean the network is bad. But as an affiliate it makes most sense to cut out the brokering and get paid more.


Super affiliates care because direct access can mean higher pay. Closer to the source means less redirects - better tracking.

Atleast with the networks I work with, the ones that have direct access to offers from the advertiser pay higher than brokered offers. If I can get over 1$ more from CPAnetwork A than with CPANetwork B- I would be INSANE to go with CPAnetwork B.

1$ is HUGE when doing thousands of leads a day.

CPApromoter

Wow guys... Don't beat a dead horse all night, There's money to be made!

Whatever network works best for one network may not work the best for the next guy. Work with whomever is meeting YOUR needs, and work CLOSELY with the networks that you do, and you won't go wrong!

Ryan addressed the suggestion made int he ORIGINAL POST, this thread needs to be closed.

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bqpennell

I agree Ryan says he didn't i believe it, He has no reason to lie, However may i suggest you work on your support i have Aim you a lot of times with no reply,

About the $1 more i do not agree with that, Example i have a offer paying me $25 and have made 14k to 23k a month for last 6 months, I was offered a $1 more to run with someone else. I agree the $1 per lead more would be great however i have made this money monthly with this one company that pays me on time every month. I am not about to give this other guy all this traffic with out knowing how it is going to end. Instead i am going to stick with the person i know and have grown to trust and not take the chance of losing that money with some one i have not grown any trust with.

MakeMoneyJames

Im happy to see Ryan address the OP main concern. Thats great customer service. I agree, everyone goes with each network for certain reasons. EWA is great as they pay weekly with no min, great support, ton of offers.

We got off topic, but the importance of testing the same offer against different networks is something affiliates should be doing.

As CPA Promoter said, everyone has different needs. 1$ can make a difference between a winning campaign and a losing one- its just a fact. And since that 1$ is 20% pay bump of the example im talking about.. it would be more like you getting $30 per lead with that 25$ offer.

If you're doing 1,000+ leads a day like some days we are then that 5$ is an extra 150k a month in revenue for you - just like that extra 1$ is an extra 30k a month for us.

When you look at 1$ from the perspective of high volume campaigns doing thousands of leads a day its much different then your example of doing small volume lead campaigns doing only about 25 leads a day.

PayoneerTeam

Hi guys,

I'm Talia from Payoneer. I see that there are some requests to work with some affiliate and CPA networks - If you'd like to drop me an email, I would be more than happy to see how we can work together to sign them as partners. You can also make some quick cash in the process since we have a referral program.

Let me know how I can help.

Talia Klein
Director of Community at Payoneer
taliakl@payoneer.com
ICQ:633361427

Leather

CPATank does pay Paypal with $50 thresh hold biweekly, that $500 on their payments page is probably a typo. 500 is their minimum for weekly pay. i have gotten paid many times smaller balances by paypal no problem with CPATank.

I talked to Vito also and he said they should have Payoneer added right after ASW!

ChrisBa

I must admit, the ct that Ryan personally is coming on here to address the issues is amazing. Hopefully there is a solution implemented soon. Personally i like their wires