Newbies about email submit offers

ustcer2001 · 12-26-2011, 10:46 PM

I am new to CPA network and i recently join some CPA networks.
My focus is email/zip submit since they are easier to start up (as what i thought)

The one of my friends were very interested in one of the offers I am promoting, so I give her my link.

However, it didnt convert even my friend said she submitted the email and name on the first page.

Why is that so?

Hope can hear some answers from anyone.

Thanks!

MakeMoneyJames · 12-26-2011, 10:56 PM

email submits are known for scrubbing (that could be it). Just gotta test different networks/offers. Peerfly has tons of email/zip submits.

ustcer2001 · 12-26-2011, 10:57 PM

well, i just want to know, why my friend submitted email but it didnt convert??

MakeMoneyJames · 12-26-2011, 11:00 PM

double post

MakeMoneyJames · 12-26-2011, 11:01 PM

Because they don't count every lead. Its called scrubbing.

ustcer2001 · 12-26-2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMoneyJames

Because they don't count every lead. Its called scrubbing.

you mean the cpa networks don't count every lead?

MakeMoneyJames · 12-26-2011, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ustcer2001

you mean the cpa networks don't count every lead?

depends on the network and offer. could be other reasons too. dont really know what you did.

mtmjohn · 12-26-2011, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ustcer2001

well, i just want to know, why my friend submitted email but it didnt convert??

You may want to check out this post - Shaving/Scrubbing and Email Submits – What you Need to Know. | The Micro Affiliate

Hope that helps

Trevor · 12-27-2011, 03:23 AM

Scrubbing is when an advertiser doesn't pay for invalid or duplicate leads. For example, while a publisher might have generated 100 raw sign ups to a campaign, 10 were already in the advertiser's database and 10 more contained bad data. So out of those 100 sign ups, 80 were valid leads and 20 were scrubbed.

Shaving is when an advertiser doesn't pay for leads which would otherwise be valid but is attempting to increase their profit on a campaign.

It could happen your friend used a fake email address or something that caused the lead to get scrubbed.

turtle11 · 12-27-2011, 04:33 AM

Are there many "scam" advertisers who do shaving on Peerfly?
So IMO Scrubbing is ok. If I would be an advertiser I also woudn't want to pay for duplicate submits.
But like you said shaving is the problem

SXI · 12-27-2011, 09:16 AM

This is reality of Email/Zip Submits, and you shouldn't blame the network. But you should stick with Peerfly, Maxbounty, Neverblue. I have tested a bunch of offers in this networks and the best solution is if you are having a ton of traffic to find the least scrubbing offers in those networks and divide them. Do a little Split testing.

DanDasilva15YearOldIM · 12-27-2011, 11:24 AM

I've been In the CPA game for a long while and I didn't know scrubbing was around nor was it a term!

This is unbelievable! I send about 20,000 clicks to an offer daily! So instead of 500-1000 leads they can be keeping some of my hard earned leads??

This is bogus! Is their a way to find out?

SXI · 12-27-2011, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM

I've been In the CPA game for a long while and I didn't know scrubbing was around nor was it a term!

This is unbelievable! I send about 20,000 clicks to an offer daily! So instead of 500-1000 leads they can be keeping some of my hard earned leads??

This is bogus! Is their a way to find out?

Start tracking your clicks, and testing different networks to see, which one scrubs the least on that offer.

turtle11 · 12-27-2011, 12:59 PM

But scrubbing isn't really the roblem. I would be more concerned if they dont pay for valid clicks.
And as you said, i should test other offers and not networks?

LukePeerFly · 12-27-2011, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtle11

Are there many "scam" advertisers who do shaving on Peerfly?
So IMO Scrubbing is ok. If I would be an advertiser I also woudn't want to pay for duplicate submits.
But like you said shaving is the problem

You might want to take a look at these posts:

As was said, advertisers definitely track duplicates and will automatically scrub those and when fake information is submitted.

turtle11 · 12-27-2011, 01:44 PM

Hi Luke, thank you for the informative links.
On some offerrs it says "You can run traffic to it from the following countries: US". This means i can still send e.g. brazilian traffic, but it wont be counted as a valid click?

Why is http://www.peerflybanners.com/ not working ?

Can I use adsense banners with peerfly banners?

LukePeerFly · 12-27-2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtle11

Hi Luke, thank you for the informative links.
On some offerrs it says "You can run traffic to it from the following countries: US". This means i can still send e.g. brazilian traffic, but it wont be counted as a valid click?

Why is http://www.peerflybanners.com/ not working ?

Can I use adsense banners with peerfly banners?

Clicks from outside of an offer's Allowed Countries is automatically redirected. Your Brazilian traffic would be automatically redirected if the offer only accepts US traffic.

PeerFlyBanners will be back up in the next week. All banners should still be rotating fine. I'm doing maintenance to the site.

Yes, AdSense should be fine with our banners from PeerFlyBanners.com.

profitprint · 01-03-2012, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukePeerFly

You might want to take a look at these posts:

As was said, advertisers definitely track duplicates and will automatically scrub those and when fake information is submitted.

I have never heard about this. Good to learn Luke. Thanks.

ChrisBa · 01-03-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ustcer2001

I am new to CPA network and i recently join some CPA networks.
My focus is email/zip submit since they are easier to start up (as what i thought)

The one of my friends were very interested in one of the offers I am promoting, so I give her my link.

However, it didnt convert even my friend said she submitted the email and name on the first page.

Why is that so?

Hope can hear some answers from anyone.

Thanks!

There could be a few reasons for this;

The offer could be scrubbing/shaving and not crediting all leads which zip and email submits are known for

Your friend may have already submitted their email or zip code to that offer or that ip address has already registered before

12-26-2011, 10:46 PM	#1
ustcer2001 Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Newbies about email submit offers I am new to CPA network and i recently join some CPA networks. My focus is email/zip submit since they are easier to start up (as what i thought) The one of my friends were very interested in one of the offers I am promoting, so I give her my link. However, it didnt convert even my friend said she submitted the email and name on the first page. Why is that so? Hope can hear some answers from anyone. Thanks!

12-26-2011, 10:56 PM	#2
MakeMoneyJames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 207 Thanks: 5 Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Newbies about email submit offers email submits are known for scrubbing (that could be it). Just gotta test different networks/offers. Peerfly has tons of email/zip submits.

12-26-2011, 10:57 PM	#3
ustcer2001 Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Newbies about email submit offers well, i just want to know, why my friend submitted email but it didnt convert??

12-26-2011, 11:00 PM	#4
MakeMoneyJames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 207 Thanks: 5 Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Newbies about email submit offers double post

12-26-2011, 11:01 PM	#5
MakeMoneyJames HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 207 Thanks: 5 Thanked 29 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Newbies about email submit offers Because they don't count every lead. Its called scrubbing.

12-27-2011, 03:23 AM	#9
Trevor Stay True To Yourself War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Does It Matter? You Can Work Everywhere! Posts: 666 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 79 Thanked 187 Times in 110 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Newbies about email submit offers Scrubbing is when an advertiser doesn't pay for invalid or duplicate leads. For example, while a publisher might have generated 100 raw sign ups to a campaign, 10 were already in the advertiser's database and 10 more contained bad data. So out of those 100 sign ups, 80 were valid leads and 20 were scrubbed. Shaving is when an advertiser doesn't pay for leads which would otherwise be valid but is attempting to increase their profit on a campaign. It could happen your friend used a fake email address or something that caused the lead to get scrubbed.
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12-27-2011, 04:33 AM	#10
turtle11 Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Newbies about email submit offers Are there many "scam" advertisers who do shaving on Peerfly? So IMO Scrubbing is ok. If I would be an advertiser I also woudn't want to pay for duplicate submits. But like you said shaving is the problem

12-27-2011, 09:16 AM	#11
SXI 26.03.2012 War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 153 Thanks: 7 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts Contact Info	Re: Newbies about email submit offers This is reality of Email/Zip Submits, and you shouldn't blame the network. But you should stick with Peerfly, Maxbounty, Neverblue. I have tested a bunch of offers in this networks and the best solution is if you are having a ton of traffic to find the least scrubbing offers in those networks and divide them. Do a little Split testing.

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DanDasilva15YearOldIM Now 16:) War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Jersey Shore or Marz Posts: 191 Thanks: 6 Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Newbies about email submit offers I've been In the CPA game for a long while and I didn't know scrubbing was around nor was it a term! This is unbelievable! I send about 20,000 clicks to an offer daily! So instead of 500-1000 leads they can be keeping some of my hard earned leads?? This is bogus! Is their a way to find out?
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12-27-2011, 12:59 PM	#14
turtle11 Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Newbies about email submit offers But scrubbing isn't really the roblem. I would be more concerned if they dont pay for valid clicks. And as you said, i should test other offers and not networks?

12-27-2011, 01:44 PM	#16
turtle11 Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Newbies about email submit offers Hi Luke, thank you for the informative links. On some offerrs it says "You can run traffic to it from the following countries: US". This means i can still send e.g. brazilian traffic, but it wont be counted as a valid click? Why is http://www.peerflybanners.com/ not working ? Can I use adsense banners with peerfly banners?