COPEAC scamming more affiliates

CPAveteran · 12-27-2011, 03:08 AM

These bustards continue to accept more new affiliates yet they wont pay for their traffic.I am one bitter person and i don't want to see anyone go through what i have gone through in the hands of these scammists.They have just decided to keep my 13K and when you try to contact them no one is willing to talk to you.Phones are dead,IM are ignored.....and the so called CEO ie Mike Krongel does not bother to return emails...........yet i was supposed to be paid 4 months ago

Trevor · 12-27-2011, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPAveteran

These bustards continue to accept more new affiliates yet they wont pay for their traffic.I am one bitter person and i don't want to see anyone go through what i have gone through in the hands of these scammists.They have just decided to keep my 13K and when you try to contact them no one is willing to talk to you.Phones are dead,IM are ignored.....and the so called CEO ie Mike Krongel does not bother to return emails...........yet i was supposed to be paid 4 months ago

It's sad to see a network decline like this. They used to be a good network.

Thanks for letting us know!

Jetmir · 12-27-2011, 08:04 AM

You're right buddy.

Doesn't the law exist for them?

No one tries to take them down. They either MUST pay their affiliates if they want to accept new ones or simply STOP being part of this industry. Enough is enough.

I really feel your pain because I've been through that with another network myself.

Good luck!

Naveen K · 12-27-2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPAveteran

These bustards continue to accept more new affiliates yet they wont pay for their traffic.I am one bitter person and i don't want to see anyone go through what i have gone through in the hands of these scammists.They have just decided to keep my 13K and when you try to contact them no one is willing to talk to you.Phones are dead,IM are ignored.....and the so called CEO ie Mike Krongel does not bother to return emails...........yet i was supposed to be paid 4 months ago

That is why we have to spend time in researching about that particular network with which we are going to work before itself.
People who don't follow this process get trapped like this.

Jetmir · 12-27-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Naveen K

That is why we have to spend time in researching about that particular network with which we are going to work before itself.
People who don't follow this process get trapped like this.

You're right, but I believe he's done that.

Few months ago COPEAC was TOP-REPUTABLE, one of the most trusted networks in the industry and used to pay every affiliate every penny and quite in time.

So, he had definitely done the research and found COPEAC which normally if you were to join a CPA Network and found such network you'd surely do it. So, he joined made some GOOD bucks, but look where COPEAC is now.

So, that dude is quite innocent. It's just sometimes even big companies fall down miserably.

That's why I always look for companies that offer weeklies or even early payments, so even when company falls down you won't lose that much.

Anyways, over-all I think it turns to be an unavoidable issue.

Cash37 · 12-27-2011, 04:35 PM

Who's still running traffic over there? Dude join another network

mafai44 · 12-27-2011, 06:45 PM

never had trouble with affiliate.com , mundo media, also ploose.com excellent network.

mtmjohn · 12-27-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghurabaa

You're right, but I believe he's done that.

Few months ago COPEAC was TOP-REPUTABLE, one of the most trusted networks in the industry and used to pay every affiliate every penny and quite in time.

So, he had definitely done the research and found COPEAC which normally if you were to join a CPA Network and found such network you'd surely do it. So, he joined made some GOOD bucks, but look where COPEAC is now.

So, that dude is quite innocent. It's just sometimes even big companies fall down miserably.

That's why I always look for companies that offer weeklies or even early payments, so even when company falls down you won't lose that much.

Anyways, over-all I think it turns to be an unavoidable issue.

Well said. And as I said before, never put all your eggs in one basket. I advise all affiliates to diversify your traffic among multiple reputable networks.

williamrs · 12-27-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor

It's sad to see a network decline like this. They used to be a good network.

Thanks for letting us know!

Yes, they had a good reputation and were one of the leading companies in this industry... :/

W

Faizudin · 12-29-2011, 01:00 AM

So now copeac scamming people. Lucky I never send them any traffic.

mageworld · 12-29-2011, 01:09 AM

yeah, i like this post

ChrisBa · 12-29-2011, 11:07 AM

I really hate to see threads like this, especially because Copeac used to be a top-notch network that always went the extra mile for affiliates.. it's too bad things went wrong for them..

Josh Ploose · 12-29-2011, 07:25 PM

Most likely Copeac is not "scamming" people, they are probably just victims of fraudulent affiliates. My guess is they are deep in the hole with owing money to their good affiliates but they can't pay because their advertisers have backed out due to large amounts of bad traffic/scammers. Networks need to screen new affiliates more thoroughly before accepting them. If you're leaving Copeac, feel free to sign up for Ploose, if you're a good affiliate we'll take good care of you

Royce Space · 12-29-2011, 10:42 PM

Hey,

As an affiliate we are responsible in our own actions. We are responsible to review or do a research if were planning to apply in CPA networks, if your being scammed, it's your FAULT. Sounds harsh, right? But it's true. Although Copeac are not paying their affiliates, don't just go here in the forum and blame them, BLAME yourself for trusting them.

Cheers,

Royce

Russel Mogul · 12-29-2011, 10:47 PM

That truely sucks, I've been on that end of the stick before. Non-paying companies suck but hey what can you do ? File a lawsuit? Just move on to the next network

Trevor · 12-30-2011, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Iamroyce

Hey,

As an affiliate we are responsible in our own actions. We are responsible to review or do a research if were planning to apply in CPA networks, if your being scammed, it's your FAULT. Sounds harsh, right? But it's true. Although Copeac are not paying their affiliates, don't just go here in the forum and blame them, BLAME yourself for trusting them.

Cheers,

Royce

Sorry, sir, but this is BS. COPEAC used to be one of the top networks in this industry and no-one would have ever thought they would become what they have become

cpaddiction · 12-30-2011, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamroyce

Hey,

As an affiliate we are responsible in our own actions. We are responsible to review or do a research if were planning to apply in CPA networks, if your being scammed, it's your FAULT. Sounds harsh, right? But it's true. Although Copeac are not paying their affiliates, don't just go here in the forum and blame them, BLAME yourself for trusting them.

Cheers,

Royce

Agreed with Trevor, this is Bull****.

Copeac used to be top notch even one of the industry leaders, lots of large networks broker offers from them. They're currently sued by FTC, but not all of us know the ins and outs behind networks, that's why new affiliates keep applying and sending traffic to them because they had a so huge reputation established for many years.

Jetmir · 12-30-2011, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamroyce

Hey,

As an affiliate we are responsible in our own actions. We are responsible to review or do a research if were planning to apply in CPA networks, if your being scammed, it's your FAULT. Sounds harsh, right? But it's true. Although Copeac are not paying their affiliates, don't just go here in the forum and blame them, BLAME yourself for trusting them.

Cheers,

Royce

That just makes NO sense.

Check this post out:
COPEAC scamming more affiliates

Royce Space · 12-30-2011, 11:15 AM

Hey guys,

I know they are one of the TOP networks and have very smart affiliate managers. But nothing is PERMANENT, like I said, blame yourself for trusting them.

And like I said in my post above, we are responsible in our own actions, so for newbies out there, you need to do the proper research if your planning to apply to CPA networks.

I know they are scamming more affiliates but it also your fault for trusting them.

I hope that's clear the BS thing.

Thanks,

Royce

PS: Visit http://www.affpaying.com/ for more info about LEGIT networks.

Cliff Hildreth · 12-30-2011, 11:20 AM

I am a new Warrior Forum member. I am a little nervous about jumping in so I really appreciate the feedback like this because I will be soon looking for networks to help my business. Please keep it coming.

jeffrey73 · 12-30-2011, 05:43 PM

I will give you an example of why this is WRONG. Do you trust Neverblue or MaxBounty? Of course you do!

Now how would it feel if either of these networks went down due to their CEO or fraud affiliates running scam rebills? This could happen to ANY company. It would not be your fault for trusting a legit company.

On the other hand, if you read hundreds of scam reviews about CPAGoat or CPAJuice, then yes you could be blamed. However, COPEAC was one of the most reputable companies around. You never know if EWA, MB, or even NeverBlue could be taken down for something. This entire business is very volatile, especially according to the FTC.

I hope this may clear things up a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iamroyce

Hey guys,

I know they are one of the TOP networks and have very smart affiliate managers. But nothing is PERMANENT, like I said, blame yourself for trusting them.

Royce Space · 12-30-2011, 05:53 PM

Well, if that happens to me, it's my fault for trusting neverblue. Like I said, nothing is PERMANENT!

I have similar experience in the past when I'm doing MLM business, well, that's just me.

This might be wrong with you guys, but this was right for me. We have our own opinions by the way.

The best thing you could do is move on. It hurts! It happens to me. But nothing will happen if we keep thinking about it.

Royce Space · 12-30-2011, 06:11 PM

Also, I just want to clarify, nothing is wrong if you trust copeac or other network because their one of the TOP networks, but when something happen (like scamming or not paying) then you go here then blame them blah blah. Then it's really your fault for trusting them.

Like I said, we have our own opinions but doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Faizudin · 12-30-2011, 06:21 PM

It's hard to predict when network starting to scam affiliates. If the network not pay us or not pay us on schedule, then we need to stop sending them traffic to avoid loss any more money. Also try to send your traffic to multiple network so you still have income even one of the network not pay you.

Josh Ploose · 12-31-2011, 12:20 AM

Some of you are still using the word "scam" -- Copeac isn't scamming their affiliates, they simply are bankrupt and cannot pay the good affiliates they owe money to. This happens to companies in all areas of business all the time, especially in situations where large amounts of money are being floated around.

Affiliates want their payments weekly or at least bimonthly, but guess what? A lot of advertisers don't pay the networks that often. Many times it's once a month or more, so the network is putting a lot on the line to make sure you get paid in a timely manner, even though they haven't gotten paid yet.

When fraudulent affiliates come in and send bad traffic, the advertisers lose money because those leads/sales are worthless, which means they can't/won't pay the networks, which means those networks are in debt because they've already fronted hundreds of thousands of dollars to their affiliates and they keep owing more and more.

The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

Jetmir · 12-31-2011, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

Some of you are still using the word "scam" -- Copeac isn't scamming their affiliates, they simply are bankrupt and cannot pay the good affiliates they owe money to. This happens to companies in all areas of business all the time, especially in situations where large amounts of money are being floated around.

Affiliates want their payments weekly or at least bimonthly, but guess what? A lot of advertisers don't pay the networks that often. Many times it's once a month or more, so the network is putting a lot on the line to make sure you get paid in a timely manner, even though they haven't gotten paid yet.

When fraudulent affiliates come in and send bad traffic, the advertisers lose money because those leads/sales are worthless, which means they can't/won't pay the networks, which means those networks are in debt because they've already fronted hundreds of thousands of dollars to their affiliates and they keep owing more and more.

The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

Then what the HELL should we call it? COPEAC bankrupt? That just doesn't make any sense. I know bankrupt sucks, but people don't care if you collapased or not, they want the hard-earned cash.

Affiliates went there, they worked hard, made BIG money, in the end they don't get paid. What on earth could you call this otherwise? If you were in place of those affiliates you wouldn't only say COPEAC collapsed, but more loudly you'd say damn I got SCAMMED.

If they can't pay new affiliates, why are they still accepting them each and every day? To get out of dept? Yeah, sure, with others' money. That's unfair and I'd send them in jail for that.

This is purely SCAM, BIG period.

Royce Space · 12-31-2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghurabaa

Then what the HELL should we call it? COPEAC bankrupt? That just doesn't make any sense. I know bankrupt sucks, but people don't care if you collapased or not, they want the hard-earned cash.

Affiliates went there, they worked hard, made BIG money, in the end they don't get paid. What on earth could you call this otherwise? If you were in place of those affiliates you wouldn't only say COPEAC collapsed, but more loudly you'd say damn I got SCAMMED.

If they can't pay new affiliates, why are they still accepting them each and every day? To get out of dept? Yeah, sure, with others' money. That's unfair and I'd send them in jail for that.

This is purely SCAM, BIG period.

Life is Unfair. Period!

Naveen K · 12-31-2011, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

Some of you are still using the word "scam" -- Copeac isn't scamming their affiliates, they simply are bankrupt and cannot pay the good affiliates they owe money to. This happens to companies in all areas of business all the time, especially in situations where large amounts of money are being floated around.

Affiliates want their payments weekly or at least bimonthly, but guess what? A lot of advertisers don't pay the networks that often. Many times it's once a month or more, so the network is putting a lot on the line to make sure you get paid in a timely manner, even though they haven't gotten paid yet.

When fraudulent affiliates come in and send bad traffic, the advertisers lose money because those leads/sales are worthless, which means they can't/won't pay the networks, which means those networks are in debt because they've already fronted hundreds of thousands of dollars to their affiliates and they keep owing more and more.

The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

Josh is right on it.
But the only thing which I feel is they shouldn't accept any more affiliates.
Instead of accepting new affiliates they should try to their money from advertisers and pay as much as possible to their affiliates. It is not possible to get full money but they should atleast try to pay their pending affiliates some percentage of the money.
I think this is the only thing COPEAC can do right now.
As an affiliate, yes this is bit hard to swallow, the persons who lost their money can only consider themselves as unlucky.

In other way,copeac hasn't scammed they have just gone bankrupt and their affiliates only have scammed copeac which has lead copeac to this situation.

Cash37 · 12-31-2011, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

Some of you are still using the word "scam" -- Copeac isn't scamming their affiliates, they simply are bankrupt and cannot pay the good affiliates they owe money to. This happens to companies in all areas of business all the time, especially in situations where large amounts of money are being floated around.

Affiliates want their payments weekly or at least bimonthly, but guess what? A lot of advertisers don't pay the networks that often. Many times it's once a month or more, so the network is putting a lot on the line to make sure you get paid in a timely manner, even though they haven't gotten paid yet.

When fraudulent affiliates come in and send bad traffic, the advertisers lose money because those leads/sales are worthless, which means they can't/won't pay the networks, which means those networks are in debt because they've already fronted hundreds of thousands of dollars to their affiliates and they keep owing more and more.

The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

You can't use this excuse.... because its too easy to simply close the network and scrub it of any dodgy affiliates. The fact of the matter is they were getting paid by the advertisers and didnt care enough about the quality of affiliate that was bringing the traffic in. And because of that, everyone loses in the end.

ben565 · 12-31-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Iamroyce

Also, I just want to clarify, nothing is wrong if you trust copeac or other network because their one of the TOP networks, but when something happen (like scamming or not paying) then you go here then blame them blah blah. Then it's really your fault for trusting them.

Like I said, we have our own opinions but doesn't mean I'm wrong.

you make out that the he did something wrong,if you send them legit leads and they dont;t pay you then the network is in the wrong not the affiliate and yes your opinion is very wrong

Royce Space · 12-31-2011, 06:30 PM

Well, it's really hard to express myself to those people who are not willing to listen. Anyway, it's your fault for trusting them. Even if you drive quality leads and feel like the earth's is going down after the copeac don't pay you, there's nothing you can do.

Move on! Like I said, nothing will happen if you keep thinking about it.

The issue here is more like ACCEPTANCE that nothing is PERMANENT!

If you still can't understand that, then go ahead, go to all forums and tell them that COPEAC is not paying and at the end of the day, your still the LOSER.

jeffrey73 · 12-31-2011, 09:07 PM

Bottom line is.. They used to be 100% solid. Apparently now they are bottom of the barrel. If you trust them after reading this then you are a fool.

The FTC could care less how EWA, MaxBounty, NeverBlue or Ploose pays on time. If they can nail them, they surely will. Believe it!

PS - If you were shafted by a network, post your review at www.affiliatepaying.com

Barb Thornback · 01-01-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

I agree entirely. I belong to multiple networks and spread my affiliate income across all of them.
Copeac always paid on time in the past.

Daniel Ong CW · 01-04-2012, 05:48 AM

Keeping yourself available to all other networks is vital. In case one goes belly up, there's always a few others waiting. Don't concentrate all your efforts or build your sales funnels around just one network.

jordanberg2311 · 01-04-2012, 06:10 AM

If you join and send them traffic after all these threads "COPEAC not paying" started. Blame yourself

COPEAC is one of the top notch reputable CPA network and on par with Neverblue, Mundo, Peerfly, PKM, EWA..etc

COPEAC using their own custom built platform. They have training and good support

We are responsible with our own action of course. Spread your traffic to several networks will reduce the risk. Don't put all your eggs in one basket if you cant afford to lose them.

It's very sad to see big network like this in trouble

BILLSBILLION · 01-04-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CPAveteran

These bustards continue to accept more new affiliates yet they wont pay for their traffic.I am one bitter person and i don't want to see anyone go through what i have gone through in the hands of these scammists.They have just decided to keep my 13K and when you try to contact them no one is willing to talk to you.Phones are dead,IM are ignored.....and the so called CEO ie Mike Krongel does not bother to return emails...........yet i was supposed to be paid 4 months ago

Post your response over here too
http://www.facebook.com/groups/internetdeadbeats/

PPC-Coach · 01-04-2012, 08:36 PM

Someone said they went bankrupt? Can anyone chime in on that one? I haven't heard that.

kirch · 01-05-2012, 09:37 PM

COPEAC is a Sinking ship !
They are in deep sh*t
Firstly they have trouble after the FTC fiasco
http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/10232...419immcmpt.pdf
They owe millions of dollars to affiliates and Banks
They owe almost $800 K to BOA
Here's the copy of case filed by BOA
http://cdn.getoutofdebt.org/wp-conte...2316918654.pdf

STAY AWAY FROM COPEAC !

vj3660 · 01-05-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Ploose

Most likely Copeac is not "scamming" people, they are probably just victims of fraudulent affiliates. My guess is they are deep in the hole with owing money to their good affiliates but they can't pay because their advertisers have backed out due to large amounts of bad traffic/scammers. Networks need to screen new affiliates more thoroughly before accepting them. If you're leaving Copeac, feel free to sign up for Ploose, if you're a good affiliate we'll take good care of you

Yep I agree.

12-27-2011, 03:08 AM	#1
CPAveteran Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	COPEAC scamming more affiliates These bustards continue to accept more new affiliates yet they wont pay for their traffic.I am one bitter person and i don't want to see anyone go through what i have gone through in the hands of these scammists.They have just decided to keep my 13K and when you try to contact them no one is willing to talk to you.Phones are dead,IM are ignored.....and the so called CEO ie Mike Krongel does not bother to return emails...........yet i was supposed to be paid 4 months ago

12-27-2011, 08:04 AM	#3
Jetmir Honest Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kosovo. Posts: 499 Thanks: 28 Thanked 125 Times in 107 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates You're right buddy. Doesn't the law exist for them? No one tries to take them down. They either MUST pay their affiliates if they want to accept new ones or simply STOP being part of this industry. Enough is enough. I really feel your pain because I've been through that with another network myself. Good luck!
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12-27-2011, 04:35 PM	#6
Cash37 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina, USA. Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 153 Thanked 182 Times in 108 Posts Social Networking	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Who's still running traffic over there? Dude join another network
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12-27-2011, 06:45 PM	#7
mafai44 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 107 Thanks: 6 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates never had trouble with affiliate.com , mundo media, also ploose.com excellent network.

12-29-2011, 01:00 AM	#10
Faizudin HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 158 Thanks: 32 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates So now copeac scamming people. Lucky I never send them any traffic.
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12-29-2011, 01:09 AM	#11
mageworld Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates yeah, i like this post

12-29-2011, 11:07 AM	#12
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,130 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates I really hate to see threads like this, especially because Copeac used to be a top-notch network that always went the extra mile for affiliates.. it's too bad things went wrong for them..
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12-29-2011, 07:25 PM	#13
Josh Ploose Affiliate Director Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 68 Thanks: 15 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Most likely Copeac is not "scamming" people, they are probably just victims of fraudulent affiliates. My guess is they are deep in the hole with owing money to their good affiliates but they can't pay because their advertisers have backed out due to large amounts of bad traffic/scammers. Networks need to screen new affiliates more thoroughly before accepting them. If you're leaving Copeac, feel free to sign up for Ploose, if you're a good affiliate we'll take good care of you

12-29-2011, 10:42 PM	#14
Royce Space Mr. Space Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: P-4, San Teodoro, Bunawan, Agusan del Sur, Philippines Posts: 314 Thanks: 122 Thanked 73 Times in 41 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Hey, As an affiliate we are responsible in our own actions. We are responsible to review or do a research if were planning to apply in CPA networks, if your being scammed, it's your FAULT. Sounds harsh, right? But it's true. Although Copeac are not paying their affiliates, don't just go here in the forum and blame them, BLAME yourself for trusting them. Cheers, Royce

12-29-2011, 10:47 PM	#15
Russel Mogul HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Location: NY to UK Posts: 173 Thanks: 10 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates That truely sucks, I've been on that end of the stick before. Non-paying companies suck but hey what can you do ? File a lawsuit? Just move on to the next network

12-30-2011, 11:15 AM	#19
Royce Space Mr. Space Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: P-4, San Teodoro, Bunawan, Agusan del Sur, Philippines Posts: 314 Thanks: 122 Thanked 73 Times in 41 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Hey guys, I know they are one of the TOP networks and have very smart affiliate managers. But nothing is PERMANENT, like I said, blame yourself for trusting them. And like I said in my post above, we are responsible in our own actions, so for newbies out there, you need to do the proper research if your planning to apply to CPA networks. I know they are scamming more affiliates but it also your fault for trusting them. I hope that's clear the BS thing. Thanks, Royce PS: Visit http://www.affpaying.com/ for more info about LEGIT networks.

12-30-2011, 11:20 AM	#20
Cliff Hildreth Lovin' It Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 52 Thanks: 11 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates I am a new Warrior Forum member. I am a little nervous about jumping in so I really appreciate the feedback like this because I will be soon looking for networks to help my business. Please keep it coming.

12-30-2011, 05:53 PM	#22
Royce Space Mr. Space Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: P-4, San Teodoro, Bunawan, Agusan del Sur, Philippines Posts: 314 Thanks: 122 Thanked 73 Times in 41 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Well, if that happens to me, it's my fault for trusting neverblue. Like I said, nothing is PERMANENT! I have similar experience in the past when I'm doing MLM business, well, that's just me. This might be wrong with you guys, but this was right for me. We have our own opinions by the way. The best thing you could do is move on. It hurts! It happens to me. But nothing will happen if we keep thinking about it.

12-30-2011, 06:11 PM	#23
Royce Space Mr. Space Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: P-4, San Teodoro, Bunawan, Agusan del Sur, Philippines Posts: 314 Thanks: 122 Thanked 73 Times in 41 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Also, I just want to clarify, nothing is wrong if you trust copeac or other network because their one of the TOP networks, but when something happen (like scamming or not paying) then you go here then blame them blah blah. Then it's really your fault for trusting them. Like I said, we have our own opinions but doesn't mean I'm wrong.

12-30-2011, 06:21 PM	#24
Faizudin HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 158 Thanks: 32 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates It's hard to predict when network starting to scam affiliates. If the network not pay us or not pay us on schedule, then we need to stop sending them traffic to avoid loss any more money. Also try to send your traffic to multiple network so you still have income even one of the network not pay you.
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12-31-2011, 12:20 AM	#25
Josh Ploose Affiliate Director Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 68 Thanks: 15 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Some of you are still using the word "scam" -- Copeac isn't scamming their affiliates, they simply are bankrupt and cannot pay the good affiliates they owe money to. This happens to companies in all areas of business all the time, especially in situations where large amounts of money are being floated around. Affiliates want their payments weekly or at least bimonthly, but guess what? A lot of advertisers don't pay the networks that often. Many times it's once a month or more, so the network is putting a lot on the line to make sure you get paid in a timely manner, even though they haven't gotten paid yet. When fraudulent affiliates come in and send bad traffic, the advertisers lose money because those leads/sales are worthless, which means they can't/won't pay the networks, which means those networks are in debt because they've already fronted hundreds of thousands of dollars to their affiliates and they keep owing more and more. The best way to avoid losing a lot of money as an affiliate is to join more than one network and diversify your income. It sucks that this business is so fickle in that way, but until we can eliminate fraud, there's not much we can do.

12-31-2011, 06:30 PM	#31
Royce Space Mr. Space Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: P-4, San Teodoro, Bunawan, Agusan del Sur, Philippines Posts: 314 Thanks: 122 Thanked 73 Times in 41 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Well, it's really hard to express myself to those people who are not willing to listen. Anyway, it's your fault for trusting them. Even if you drive quality leads and feel like the earth's is going down after the copeac don't pay you, there's nothing you can do. Move on! Like I said, nothing will happen if you keep thinking about it. The issue here is more like ACCEPTANCE that nothing is PERMANENT! If you still can't understand that, then go ahead, go to all forums and tell them that COPEAC is not paying and at the end of the day, your still the LOSER.

12-31-2011, 09:07 PM	#32
jeffrey73 AdCopyAssault.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 1,249 Thanked 450 Times in 374 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Bottom line is.. They used to be 100% solid. Apparently now they are bottom of the barrel. If you trust them after reading this then you are a fool. The FTC could care less how EWA, MaxBounty, NeverBlue or Ploose pays on time. If they can nail them, they surely will. Believe it! PS - If you were shafted by a network, post your review at www.affiliatepaying.com
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01-04-2012, 05:48 AM	#34
Daniel Ong CW Active Warrior Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 74 Thanks: 8 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Keeping yourself available to all other networks is vital. In case one goes belly up, there's always a few others waiting. Don't concentrate all your efforts or build your sales funnels around just one network.
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01-04-2012, 06:10 AM	#35
jordanberg2311 Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 588 Thanks: 3 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates If you join and send them traffic after all these threads "COPEAC not paying" started. Blame yourself COPEAC is one of the top notch reputable CPA network and on par with Neverblue, Mundo, Peerfly, PKM, EWA..etc COPEAC using their own custom built platform. They have training and good support We are responsible with our own action of course. Spread your traffic to several networks will reduce the risk. Don't put all your eggs in one basket if you cant afford to lose them. It's very sad to see big network like this in trouble

01-04-2012, 08:36 PM	#37
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates Someone said they went bankrupt? Can anyone chime in on that one? I haven't heard that.

01-05-2012, 09:37 PM	#38
kirch HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 205 Thanks: 1 Thanked 78 Times in 41 Posts	Re: COPEAC scamming more affiliates COPEAC is a Sinking ship ! They are in deep sh*t Firstly they have trouble after the FTC fiasco http://www.ftc.gov/os/caselist/10232...419immcmpt.pdf They owe millions of dollars to affiliates and Banks They owe almost $800 K to BOA Here's the copy of case filed by BOA http://cdn.getoutofdebt.org/wp-conte...2316918654.pdf STAY AWAY FROM COPEAC !
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