Is this a good idea?

raegrex · 12-27-2011, 09:00 AM

Hey guys, i'm pretty new to the whole CPA market, so i was thinking, you know how those surveys pay for you to complete it and stuff? would it be a good idea to hire people (from fiverr for example) to complete a lot of surveys for a few quick buck? would this work?

it sounds really simple... but i haven't read anyone talking about this yet so i was kinda curious to try it out lol, what do you guys think?

Kevin Rayman · 12-27-2011, 09:31 AM

the cpa offer has to allow cash incentive to do that..
cpaway has a couple offers..
often credit card submit though.

SXI · 12-27-2011, 09:38 AM

Yes this is allowed, but it has to be incentive offer, you can apply for CPAWay or Blamads account.

Samrath Gupta · 12-27-2011, 12:47 PM

MOSt of the networks doesn't allows such strategies because these are harmful leads for their advertisers !

Before doing any such practice must talk with your AM

Regards
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rayzh · 12-27-2011, 12:51 PM

yep you can do that for some of them, and micro worker is for this kinda thing

Royce Space · 12-27-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by raegrex

Hey guys, i'm pretty new to the whole CPA market, so i was thinking, you know how those surveys pay for you to complete it and stuff? would it be a good idea to hire people (from fiverr for example) to complete a lot of surveys for a few quick buck? would this work?

it sounds really simple... but i haven't read anyone talking about this yet so i was kinda curious to try it out lol, what do you guys think?

It's not a good idea. Forget it!

williamrs · 12-27-2011, 07:49 PM

The vast majority of the networks wouldn't allow this strategy.

Keep in mind that people won't pay you for nothing, and junk leads are worth nothing.

For the advertiser to be able to pay the network and the network pays you, it's necessary that your leads generate money on the back-end.

So, even offers that allow incentive traffic will be unlikely to accept this method, because those leads would be always worth nothing for them.

That said, my suggestion is keep away from this type of method if you don't want to lose your accounts.

Also, when in doubt about using a method or traffic source, always contact your affiliate manager.

W

KimboJim · 12-27-2011, 07:59 PM

If the CPA network allows it, go ahead. If not, then don't. You can be subject to fines and legal problems if you pay a lot of people to complete the CPA offers. However, from what I know, those that do allow paid traffic offer very low CPA rates.

steve72b · 12-27-2011, 08:08 PM

I'd be surprised if the network allows for it to be honest. Otherwise running just under the radar is a road to nowhere or rather wasting the effort to be banned eventually

SXI · 12-28-2011, 04:09 AM

Yes, you can get away with this option but it would not last, no one wants to pay you for junk email registration.

faysal969 · 12-28-2011, 04:41 AM

I think it is not a good idea. For a long lasting business you have to think some thing honest and solid. Fiverr is not a good place for doing good business.

outwest · 01-22-2012, 02:29 AM

Basically you are sending fake leads, surveys
you ask that on the board?

safexsolutions · 01-22-2012, 10:59 AM

I also think it is not a Good Idea to do...Business is Good if it is long lasting..

Lea Karana · 01-22-2012, 11:15 AM

I dont think its a great idea because the advertisers will not benefit from the leads in the long run.

Cpa networks do not want to jeopardize the reputation of their company and allow those kind of activities.

And also you AM is there to help you if you dont find the answers here are helping you.

Good luck

Lea

PPC-Coach · 01-22-2012, 12:10 PM

This is not incentive traffic, you hiring someone to complete surveys is fraud.

Kiss your account good bye and don't count on getting paid any commission if you get caught, (which you will when they see that your conversion rate on the offer path is zero).

blue19 · 01-22-2012, 04:28 PM

i have a lot of experience with incentivized offers and affiliate networks. There is almost no difference between running a GPT site that gives cash incentives to people for filling out a survey and hiring someone on fiverr to fill out a survey. If your affiliate network allows cash incentives, they will probably allow this method. The only difference I see is fraud control. If you own a GPT site, you can implement fraud software, whereas if you just provide a link to someone it would be tough to prevent it.

But if thats the only issue, you could create a GPT site and then direct the people from fiverr to your site. I would talk with your AM regardless, but it shouldnt be a problem.

JasonWestwick · 01-23-2012, 02:09 AM

Simply put NO, this is not incentive based and is simply fraud, no network will allow this type of conversion as the visitor will simply not convert on the backend for the advertiser.

Remember with CPA it's a win/win game, you need to ensure that the traffic and conversions you provide are genuine and quality, this way you profit and will benefit from pay bumps and the advertiser will also benefit.

Paying people to fill out your offers is a stupidly short term strategy that will backfire once the network and advertiser realises your leads to not convert, at all.

This is not a legitimate business model, stop thinking short term pennies and start thinking long term BUSINESS, you will only make real money in this game when you start to treat it as a business, and put in the work and dedication that any successful business needs to be successful.

thepresence · 01-23-2012, 06:30 AM

This is not a good idea. It will likely get you banned from the advertiser even if you make some small short term money. Not a good idea...

12-27-2011, 09:00 AM	#1
raegrex Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 34 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is this a good idea? Hey guys, i'm pretty new to the whole CPA market, so i was thinking, you know how those surveys pay for you to complete it and stuff? would it be a good idea to hire people (from fiverr for example) to complete a lot of surveys for a few quick buck? would this work? it sounds really simple... but i haven't read anyone talking about this yet so i was kinda curious to try it out lol, what do you guys think?

12-27-2011, 09:31 AM	#2
Kevin Rayman Elite Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180 Thanks: 65 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? the cpa offer has to allow cash incentive to do that.. cpaway has a couple offers.. often credit card submit though.
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12-27-2011, 09:38 AM	#3
SXI 26.03.2012 War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 153 Thanks: 7 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is this a good idea? Yes this is allowed, but it has to be incentive offer, you can apply for CPAWay or Blamads account.

12-27-2011, 12:47 PM	#4
Samrath Gupta AM @ CWinter Media War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: www.samrathgupta.com Posts: 715 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 157 Thanked 148 Times in 102 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Is this a good idea? MOSt of the networks doesn't allows such strategies because these are harmful leads for their advertisers ! Before doing any such practice must talk with your AM Regards ~Sam~
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12-27-2011, 12:51 PM	#5
rayzh Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? yep you can do that for some of them, and micro worker is for this kinda thing

12-27-2011, 07:49 PM	#7
williamrs Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,496 Thanks: 174 Thanked 1,159 Times in 614 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? The vast majority of the networks wouldn't allow this strategy. Keep in mind that people won't pay you for nothing, and junk leads are worth nothing. For the advertiser to be able to pay the network and the network pays you, it's necessary that your leads generate money on the back-end. So, even offers that allow incentive traffic will be unlikely to accept this method, because those leads would be always worth nothing for them. That said, my suggestion is keep away from this type of method if you don't want to lose your accounts. Also, when in doubt about using a method or traffic source, always contact your affiliate manager. W
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12-27-2011, 07:59 PM	#8
KimboJim HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 255 Thanks: 49 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Social Networking	Re: Is this a good idea? If the CPA network allows it, go ahead. If not, then don't. You can be subject to fines and legal problems if you pay a lot of people to complete the CPA offers. However, from what I know, those that do allow paid traffic offer very low CPA rates.

12-27-2011, 08:08 PM	#9
steve72b Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? I'd be surprised if the network allows for it to be honest. Otherwise running just under the radar is a road to nowhere or rather wasting the effort to be banned eventually

12-28-2011, 04:09 AM	#10
SXI 26.03.2012 War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 153 Thanks: 7 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is this a good idea? Yes, you can get away with this option but it would not last, no one wants to pay you for junk email registration.

12-28-2011, 04:41 AM	#11
faysal969 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 886 Thanks: 41 Thanked 60 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? I think it is not a good idea. For a long lasting business you have to think some thing honest and solid. Fiverr is not a good place for doing good business.
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01-22-2012, 02:29 AM	#12
outwest Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia Posts: 2,686 Thanks: 118 Thanked 180 Times in 161 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? Basically you are sending fake leads, surveys you ask that on the board?

01-22-2012, 10:59 AM	#13
safexsolutions Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 78 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? I also think it is not a Good Idea to do...Business is Good if it is long lasting..
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01-22-2012, 11:15 AM	#14
Lea Karana Coffee Shop Princess War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 94 Thanks: 13 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? I dont think its a great idea because the advertisers will not benefit from the leads in the long run. Cpa networks do not want to jeopardize the reputation of their company and allow those kind of activities. And also you AM is there to help you if you dont find the answers here are helping you. Good luck Lea

01-22-2012, 12:10 PM	#15
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? This is not incentive traffic, you hiring someone to complete surveys is fraud. Kiss your account good bye and don't count on getting paid any commission if you get caught, (which you will when they see that your conversion rate on the offer path is zero).

01-22-2012, 04:28 PM	#16
blue19 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 58 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is this a good idea? i have a lot of experience with incentivized offers and affiliate networks. There is almost no difference between running a GPT site that gives cash incentives to people for filling out a survey and hiring someone on fiverr to fill out a survey. If your affiliate network allows cash incentives, they will probably allow this method. The only difference I see is fraud control. If you own a GPT site, you can implement fraud software, whereas if you just provide a link to someone it would be tough to prevent it. But if thats the only issue, you could create a GPT site and then direct the people from fiverr to your site. I would talk with your AM regardless, but it shouldnt be a problem.
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01-23-2012, 02:09 AM	#17
JasonWestwick Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 602 Thanks: 158 Thanked 233 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? Simply put NO, this is not incentive based and is simply fraud, no network will allow this type of conversion as the visitor will simply not convert on the backend for the advertiser. Remember with CPA it's a win/win game, you need to ensure that the traffic and conversions you provide are genuine and quality, this way you profit and will benefit from pay bumps and the advertiser will also benefit. Paying people to fill out your offers is a stupidly short term strategy that will backfire once the network and advertiser realises your leads to not convert, at all. This is not a legitimate business model, stop thinking short term pennies and start thinking long term BUSINESS, you will only make real money in this game when you start to treat it as a business, and put in the work and dedication that any successful business needs to be successful.
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01-23-2012, 06:30 AM	#18
thepresence Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Is this a good idea? This is not a good idea. It will likely get you banned from the advertiser even if you make some small short term money. Not a good idea...
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