ChocolateRain

Hi!

Just applied for MaxBounty not that long ago. I was working with another network but my conversion rate would go from 20% to 2% overnight with no change in traffic source/traffic location/offer. Because of this I was losing at least $50 a day for 2 days (Facebook PayPerClick). There hasnt been any direct answers to my questions over what was happening so I decided I should probably switch networks.

My question is, those of you who work with MaxBounty, do you have rapid conversion rate drops for no reason/alot of shaving?

Thanks, hope I made my question understandable.

CPAveteran

If you ask me.......the answer is YES......but it depends on which offers...Email/Zip and Bizz Opp.....there is too much shaving there.

jeffrey73

It's not MaxBounty doing the majority of the shaving ( if any ), I'd look more towards the advertisers they are working with.

ChocolateRain

I usually do email/zip submits. Thanks for the replys....

Not trying to get of topic, but any particular zip/email submit offers you've had luck with with them? Any you would recommend staying away from?

Matt Red

I really comes down to your traffic source... There not shaving if you have quality traffic....

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ChocolateRain

Ok.. Would all US traffic with a 17-20% conversion rate be considered "quality traffic"?

Matt Red

I don't know if your trying to be sarcastic or not here. But, if you're paying the people to sign up then no. There's a context for everything.

Just because the conversion rate is high, it doesn't mean that it's quality for the advertiser. That means its quality for you.

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jeffrey73

Matt is completely right about this, it works both ways. I've had campaigns running GREAT, only to be dumped by the advertiser in a short time. The reason being because not enough of the leads were backing out.

On the other side, you could be paying WAY TOO MUCH but gathering quality leads. Of course they love it, but definitely not worth it for YOU.

MaxBounty

I can confirm that MaxBounty does not shave.

If you are having concerns about a particular campaign, please speak with your AM. I'm also happy to take a look at your account and the offers you are running. Feel free to speak with me over AIM or Skype.

Fernando Veloso

You can't confirm anything unless you work there or have access to all data.

Have you got any of those?
Or you just posting for the sake of it?

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MaxBounty

I have worked at MaxBounty since 2005.

Trevor

I don't see any decrease in conversion rates with Maxbounty...

jphilips

Any advice on the best way(s) to avoid shaving? If the advertiser is the one making this determination then I would guess that the best thing to do is to provide quality leads. How does one try to estimate the quality of the leads your method might produce before all of the work goes into setting up a funnel?

PPC-Coach

I used to say that networks don't shave, merchants do. However after going through a demo of a very popular cpa network backend, I can confirm that networks now shave at their level. If they see numbers that are outside their normal parameters, they're going to shave you. If they just want to get rid of you but not tell you to f-off, they'll shave you till you leave.

When I owned my network there was no "shaving" button. Now there is and it's sad.

The only way to deal with it is use multiple networks and compare them on the same offer. If you see a big difference call them on it. Odds are they're shaving you.