outwest

I have a question about scaling up a campaign or several campaigns

as a newbie often doesnt have a heck of a huge budget to start, I understand the concept of starting many small campaigns, then if you find the winners ok take those and rinse repeat scale up up up

my question is this. One of the prime CPA networks I just checked says, ok we pay the 15th of every month, whatever you made last month. Is this common?
If so , how in the world can you scale up if you have to wait, potentially 2 to 6 weeks from the time you made the money, for the money to be even in the mail to you?

do some CPA networks pay more quickly? In my mind this payment delay pretty much puts handcuffs on you as far as scaling up, unless you have a huge budget to start with

I see guys saying they started with 100 or 200 dollars and I think ok its easy to spend that in a week. Perhaps I am just not informed, but the time schedule of payments seems like ok start with a few hundred dollars spend that in a week, then wait a month to get paid if you made a profit, then start again. What am I missing

Can someone please give a theoretical example of
John invests X dollars with Y number of CPA networks in week one
he then takes his winners and scales up, on week 2,3 etc, (taking into account the time delay in waiting for his payments)

For some reason I cant seem to envision the timetable payback scenario

nicnac03

Those pay time frames are only when you first start. They do that to ensure you are sending quality traffic instead of fraud. Once that initial first payment has been made, you can negotiate with your account manager to get paid sooner.

If you're pushing decent numbers, most of them are willing to pay you weekly. If you're pushing REALLY big numbers they can pay you daily.

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outwest

Yes thanks that makes sense
but given that circumstance exists, wouldnt that make it almost impossible for newbies to be able to get to a decent level of income lets say in the first 1 or 2 months? without a very large ad budget starting off? since they cannot depend on using money made in campaigns intially since that money takes so long to be paid out? so they would have to be going day by day and funding campaignes strictly from whatever money they have in the bank?

On this board and many others I have seen guys say, Oh I got to $100/day profit within the first month or within the first 60 days. If I see that before I said , hey job well done. Now that I see how long it takes CPA networks to pay out initially it makes me think, well if you got to that amount within 30 days you certainly didnt start out with a small Ad budget, you must have started with like 2000, $3000.

Then again I am just learning all this so, its possible that there is a scenario I dont know about.

nicnac03

Well yes they'll make that much but that doesn't mean it's in their pocket that instant lol. Again, the reason it takes that long is because the networks have to analyze the leads you send them to ensure you didn't sign up for them yourself or have a bunch of your friends do it. Because that would not covert on the backend for the advertiser.

My advice is to start small, maybe 5-10 dollars a day in ad costs and once that month is over, you can ask to be moved to a weekly payment plan.

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outwest

Yes Thanks

but you say.....yes they'll make that much but its not in their hands

my point is, where are they getting the money to fund the campaigns at the one month mark? to make $100/day (which I assume they are not spending only $10/day to get that amount)

they must have started with a large Ad budget in order to sustain them while waiting to be paid by their CPA networks...............initially.........IMO....if they are doing campaigns that profit $100/day by that time

thats all I am saying. they IMO could not start with a budget of $100-$200 only. and be able to attain this level of success within 30 days.........since they would not have the budget for it, since they are still on a "net 30 days" payment plan with most CPA networks. as newbies

They must have started with several thousand dollars Ad budget, IMO
but correct me if I am mistaken thanks

MakeMoneyJames

Most people start with cash or credit.

MakeMoneyJames

Its also possible the person was paid by the network already in the past and set up on weekly payments when they started a campaign making $100 a day.

JohnMoney

If you spend money using PPC , you will see results way faster

Free methods work too but take time

jaygorman

This is common

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ramdom123

There are network which can pay you soon if you prove to them you can do the volume and Good quality leads.

CPANetDirectory

It will all depend on which network you sign up with.
There are some now which pay weekly straight off the bat, while others will require you to be monthly until they have seen the quality/amount of traffic that you are bringing in.
However, as MakeMoneyJames stated, most new affiliates will start off using cash/credit of their own to get started before they start seeing payments from their network.

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silverace

yeap, most aff's starting out save 3-4k to start with. IF you want to be able to run a consistent winner you should have enough money in your bank to run your campaigns for 30 days + the net 15 period.