Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits...

rolandlowe · 01-14-2012, 11:22 AM

I've checked out some WSO's, videos and I've been reading posts here on the WF. Everyone seems to be saying the same thing, that email/zip submits are the easiest and quickest way to get your feet wet in CPA.

Well I'm looking to get my feet drenched.

The thing is I can't wrap my brain around how these offers work, convert and make me money.

I'm the type of person that if I offer a client a box of apples that when they open the box they should see apples.

I tested out some of these ads with a test email or zip and found that after submitting my info for the $50 gift card or the sample pak of "tasty chips" they went on to other offers that I had to fill out or required you to buy into 2 "silver" level offers to get the initial offer.

I have so many questions.

1- Is this how these offers are run with nested offers within nested offers?

2- If yes, how can you hope for a conversion? It seems as an affiliate using PPC you're just throwing money out the window.

3- Is it possible that I have not looked hard enough to find the right offers? Is it possible that there are "legit" offers? So when they say "Get a free box of apples when you submit your email" that on the first page they submit their email. They're taken to a second page to fill in they mailing details and that's it. The apples are sent.

3b - When the offer states ***Offer converts on first page email submit***, does that mean, when the client goes to the landing page sees the offer and enters their email I get paid?

I'm just not understanding. Your input will be most welcome.

silverace · 01-14-2012, 11:26 AM

every email/zip submit let's the user go through a funnel. Don't worry though! you are getting paid when the user submits their email on the first page.

GeorgR. · 01-14-2012, 11:34 AM

You are getting paid when the conversion criteria is met, this can be as simple as submitting a zip/email on the first page... or some more data maybe on the second page. (So called "short form submits").

Whatever other stuff is offered to the VISITOR then might not really be of your concern...eg. what he gets after the email/zip submit...if the particular offer for you already converted for you with them entering their zip or whatever.

Just make sure that if you want to promote simple submits that you do not get an actual "per sale" offer or an offer where they need to enter their credit card information. Reason is that not all programs have labelled their offers properly - sometimes they file offers under "cost per lead" or "submits"...but then after closer inspection the conversion only happens after they buy something or enter their CC.

PeerFly · 01-14-2012, 11:41 AM

Checkout How E-mail and Zip Submits Work and Understanding How Email Submits Work.

JamesMcCaferty · 01-14-2012, 11:41 AM

I'd be interested to hear about some strategies people use for "one form fields" like email/zip submits.

For example, I have a strategy where I will use SEO and social media for risk-free-trial offers. But I'm wondering if PPC works best for one form fields.

Any suggestions for what strategies work best with email/zip submits?

david15923 · 01-14-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesMcCaferty

I'd be interested to hear about some strategies people use for "one form fields" like email/zip submits.

For example, I have a strategy where I will use SEO and social media for risk-free-trial offers. But I'm wondering if PPC works best for one form fields.

Any suggestions for what strategies work best with email/zip submits?

I think PPC is somewhat difficult to be very profitable. I'm also a noob but from what I've been reading you are better off making your own landing page directing to a trial offer. Those can give $20+ while zip/email is only good for free or cheap methods IMO. Try it - you never know. Adwords doesn't allow direct linking so 7search will be your best bet (again, from what I've been reading).

JamesMcCaferty · 01-14-2012, 06:59 PM

Thanks David, very much appreciated, I'm going to get started putting serious action into IM soon, for now, I'm spending the month of January as an intensive study month.

rolandlowe · 01-14-2012, 07:54 PM

Peerfly. thanks for the links. They're what I was looking for

rolandlowe · 01-14-2012, 07:57 PM

david15923, sorry to bust your bubble but goggle does allow direct linking. I was doing it last week with no problem.

JamesMcCaferty · 01-14-2012, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandlowe

david15923, sorry to bust your bubble but goggle does allow direct linking. I was doing it last week with no problem.

Are you talking about direct linking to your affiliate link? Or direct linking to a squeeze/landing page?

mtmjohn · 01-14-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandlowe

Peerfly. thanks for the links. They're what I was looking for

Check out the posts below if you wanna learn more about email submit offers:

This Is How To Stay Away From Email Submit Scrubs

Shaving/Scrubbing and Email Submits – What you Need to Know. | The Micro Affiliate

Understanding How Email Submits Work « Work for the Internet

Hope that helps

silverace · 01-14-2012, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesMcCaferty

Are you talking about direct linking to your affiliate link? Or direct linking to a squeeze/landing page?

Google allows directlinking when the offer page has a high enough quality score. it's a bit rare but it happens, mostly with CPS offers though.

rolandlowe · 01-15-2012, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesMcCaferty

Are you talking about direct linking to your affiliate link? Or direct linking to a squeeze/landing page?

I direct-linked to the CPA offer using my affiliate link. No Prob.

01-14-2012, 11:22 AM	#1
rolandlowe Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... I've checked out some WSO's, videos and I've been reading posts here on the WF. Everyone seems to be saying the same thing, that email/zip submits are the easiest and quickest way to get your feet wet in CPA. Well I'm looking to get my feet drenched. The thing is I can't wrap my brain around how these offers work, convert and make me money. I'm the type of person that if I offer a client a box of apples that when they open the box they should see apples. I tested out some of these ads with a test email or zip and found that after submitting my info for the $50 gift card or the sample pak of "tasty chips" they went on to other offers that I had to fill out or required you to buy into 2 "silver" level offers to get the initial offer. I have so many questions. 1- Is this how these offers are run with nested offers within nested offers? 2- If yes, how can you hope for a conversion? It seems as an affiliate using PPC you're just throwing money out the window. 3- Is it possible that I have not looked hard enough to find the right offers? Is it possible that there are "legit" offers? So when they say "Get a free box of apples when you submit your email" that on the first page they submit their email. They're taken to a second page to fill in they mailing details and that's it. The apples are sent. 3b - When the offer states *Offer converts on first page email submit*, does that mean, when the client goes to the landing page sees the offer and enters their email I get paid? I'm just not understanding. Your input will be most welcome.

01-14-2012, 11:26 AM	#2
silverace The Flying Dutchman War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 277 Thanks: 10 Thanked 38 Times in 30 Posts	Re: Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... every email/zip submit let's the user go through a funnel. Don't worry though! you are getting paid when the user submits their email on the first page.

01-14-2012, 11:34 AM	#3
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01-14-2012, 11:41 AM	#5
JamesMcCaferty On the Search Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 62 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... I'd be interested to hear about some strategies people use for "one form fields" like email/zip submits. For example, I have a strategy where I will use SEO and social media for risk-free-trial offers. But I'm wondering if PPC works best for one form fields. Any suggestions for what strategies work best with email/zip submits?

01-14-2012, 06:59 PM	#7
JamesMcCaferty On the Search Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: USA Posts: 138 Thanks: 62 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... Thanks David, very much appreciated, I'm going to get started putting serious action into IM soon, for now, I'm spending the month of January as an intensive study month.

01-14-2012, 07:54 PM	#8
rolandlowe Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... Peerfly. thanks for the links. They're what I was looking for

01-14-2012, 07:57 PM	#9
rolandlowe Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 14 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Please help me to understand Email and Zip sumbits... david15923, sorry to bust your bubble but goggle does allow direct linking. I was doing it last week with no problem.