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Old 01-25-2012, 07:21 AM   #1
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Hello everybody!
Yes I know, my title looks strange but I will explain the thing:
I am in different cpa companies as an affiliate (maxbounty, cpapath...) and I recently wondered if it was possible that the leads we make are taken back AFTER that cpa paid you. Is it possible ?
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Let's say I made 10 leads that converts 20$ each one. So I look to my account and my balance is 200$. Then 1 week after, I receive the payment by paypal. From this moment, the money is completely mine or it stills a risk they ask for money back ?

Let's have a look for example at the ToS of maxbounty. We can read that;

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MaxBounty or the Advertiser may reverse any Action generated by the Affiliate. Circumstances for Action reversals include but are not limited to duplicate Actions, fraudulently generated Actions, non-payment, Affiliate's failure to comply with the Agreement, invalid or incomplete data, or product returns. Reversals may be applied at any time, including for Actions during a period where payment has already been issued to the Affiliate.
And for cpapath we read;

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We reserve the right to charge back to your account any previously paid Qualified Actions that are later determined to have not met the requirements to be a Qualified Action.
So did this really happen for someone ?
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:44 AM   #2
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as long as you stay away from fraud it wont happen to you
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:06 AM   #3
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Yes indeed. But even if we are 100% clean, sometimes we can get a bad lead/bad sale. So what cpa companies do for that? Do they delete the commssion from your balance before the payment or they pay you and they reverse lead after?
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I have had one instance where commissions were deleted from my balance from bad leads generated a month or two prior. It only happened for a e-cig offer, and their reasoning was that it took them that long to determine that the lead had not complied with all the terms of the offer. So in my experience I would say that it's not common, but it does happen.
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It certainly can happen, normally reputable companies will only do this if the affiliate performs fraud or other illegal actions so just be legit and you should be good

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Well if we run campaign honestly than we shouldn't worry about it but yes sometime bad advertiser do create problems for both we publisher as well as CPA networks too! I too had same issue with one of Health aff. program!
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:27 AM   #7
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I see...but I keep believing that once money is in our paypal, it means that leads are ok because they cant get the money back if it is already in our paypal...
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um chargebacks is what you are talking about....just because you have the money in your PayPal account they can ALWAYS charge you account back and put you in the negative...trust me they CAN and if you dispute it they can just produce the TOS and the chargebacks and why...you will lose. Just keep that in mind...it is a business expense and can happen.

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Not that it's ever happened to me (I try to be a good boy), but I hope that the network would contact first before performing a chargeback.

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Solid comments above....I think if you just keep the quality high and your clicks legit that is all we can do.

No need to look back (unless you think you got shaved) just.concentrate on the next payday twice as strong and also keep a close relationship with your AM. (affiliate manager) and stick with the reputable networks.

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um chargebacks is what you are talking about....just because you have the money in your PayPal account they can ALWAYS charge you account back and put you in the negative...trust me they CAN and if you dispute it they can just produce the TOS and the chargebacks and why...you will lose. Just keep that in mind...it is a business expense and can happen.
Yes It's what I'm afraid of. I get the payment on paypal, then after 2 months for example I decide to transfer the funds on my bank account and then several days after I receive a chargeback and my paypal becomes negative...
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