MarathonMan

I ran four campaigns up to 300+ clicks on 7search, all in different niches. I only got a few conversions on one of them, and the others I ran up hundreds of clicks without a single conversion.

I know there are people who use 7search profitably, but what strategy can there possibly be other then throwing pasta at the wall to see what sticks? It seems a bit fishy to me that targeted ads to excellent keywords can have such an abysmal conversion rate..

michael rozy

hi

on which niche , u got conversion . tell me

PPC-Coach

Yes it works. You have to do 2 things:

1.) Block bad sites.

2.) Start every bid at a penny, (yes i know they say the min is a nickel, but there's a way around that).

I've been showing people 7search for years now and it does work.

Aniket

Never Tried 7search but facebook is converting well for me.

MarathonMan

I tried lowering bids, but if I go too low I never get any traffic at all - and these are campaigns with several hundred keywords.

Aniket, I'd love to try Facebook as well - I'm just trying to decide if i should drop 7search.

pacelattin

I'm done promoting 7search... I used to write about it, but looks like its 40% fraud now.

zerofill

7 search works for quick email and zip submits. Doesn't work for trial offers for skin cream etc... (at least for me it doesn't)

But it is a bit of a pita with how much dicking around and monitoring you do to get the campaigns right. Once you do they will be profitable.

Don't expect a landslide of profits though.

You have to have multiple campaigns, and test a few different landers. Don't just direct link them (Works sometimes). Better to get a hook on them to grab their attention even if it is geo as the hook. You get their attention for a few seconds you usually have them.

You definitely have to skim the fraud sites out though. Don't plan on quitting your day job off one campaign either.

Have campaigns I am tweaking now in 7 search, directcpv, and adwords...

The 7 search traffic for one of the offers is actually converting better than the CPV. Which actually surprised me. The offer is an email submit... same lander on both.

MarathonMan

So you say a landing page actually helps up conversions? I always thought the extra step would knock the percentage down.

ben565

bidding a penny will get you almost no traffic,you have to be in the top 3 positions on broad keywords

zerofill

Depends on the offer... Depends on how you draw them to clicking through... or the hook, the presell, whatever you want to call it. Just has to be a quick attention getter.

loss1988

7search works well with short form offer like email submit or some free dating site( at least it works for me) I've never tried paid offer with them before.

speedylikesKJ

Just be honest and tell me how many of you create lander and than promote offers ? Direct liking is not always a good option. For short submits yea it works but for trails and other high payout offers direct linking method does n`t always work.

zerofill

I create landers about 50-75% of the time.

Boogie40

affiliates marketers out there on the web you can promote different programs and directly link to the advertiser sites without any problems. The great thing is that you can get a campaign up and within minutes start receiving a good amount of traffic. The key is going with keywords that have at least 2 words in them to help your conversion rates.

chris38

I wrote a post that may help you. You may want to read it a couple of times for clarity.

Read it Here.

outwest

PPC coach i notice you are not defending your penny bids

espresso

I have a seperate problem
Started a campign about 14 hours ago
17 keywords
300 impressions
0 clicks

Daily budget 10$ and average position 2

Cleberl1

These small PPC companies are full of click fraud and usually don't have enough publisher to get decent traffic.

So the result is poor...

Bujuk

I'm new to 7search. how do we block the bad sites?

one of my campaign hit 147 clicks, but still no conversion. this is a simple email submission cpa.

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Manish V

Get in touch with 7 search. Ask them to enable RID Blocking for you. Once that is done.. You would include the variables ###KEYWORD###-###AFFID###-###RID### at the end of your affiliate link. Then look up your reporting in your CPA account and look for the Sub Ids that have multiple clicks but no conversions. Get these Sub Ids and paste them in 7 search. To do this visit the My Account section of your account at 7 search and click the edit … link next to Preferences. Next, click the Manage SubID blocks>> link found in the Account Tools section.Finally, add the unique source ID code and click the “Block SubIDs” button to save. Note that you can set these blocks per campaign (if desired)

outwest

I heard its not difficult once you learn how, to make 7search profitable

it is difficult, however, to scale it up, since the volume of traffic is simply too low

Bujuk

thank you KyaRe for the quick reply.

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TheSimps

This was a very helpful post KyaRe thank you.
However I had the same exact issue today with a campaign I started: 144 clicks, 0 conversions. So I deleted it being unsure if that was enough data or not. I am new also.

I asked 7search to enable the blocking yesterday before starting that campaign today and they sent me back these questions:
• Can you add the dynamic ID insert to your tracking url(s)?
• Are you currently using a stand-alone analytics package such as Google analytics or Prosper 202 to monitor the performance of your offers?
• If no stand-alone analytics is being used, does your affiliate program allow the use of a dynamic keyword insertion? Will it pass this information in its reporting?

I responded yes to all three bullet points via email and have yet to hear back anything.
However when I asked to allow more keywords to my account that was done in a few hours.
Should I just pick up the phone and call them?

Thanks again

Manish V

Hey TS,
Dont delete the campaign only to restart it again ( you can always pause it).Also if you delete the campaign try to make sure you download the keywords first.

Just cause your clicks had no conversion, it does not always mean that you have bad traffic. Test the keywords in the campaign until you have atleast spent on each of them what the offer is paying you .... As I learnt for PPC-Coach,

1)If you have impressions, but no clicks --You have a Bad Ad Copy (Its not appealing enough) , Or I would think its not on top 5 of the ADs being shown
2)If you have Clicks but no Conversions, then your AD copy is good, but the offer may need to be changed

7Search is good about communications. however if its been over 2 days , then sure call them. It wouldn't hurt.

Pupsik

7search may be legit to some people, but I've been doing one offer for a week, the conversion rate was quiet low, but I got a few out of it, even though my campaign didn't profit me whatsoever. Yesterday i receive an email saying that my offer had to blacklist me due to poor leads.

Doubt it's anything from my side, but 7search seems to have alot of useless traffic.

pacelattin

I'm done promoting 7Search. I had many, many successful affiliates who have come back and told me that 50% of their traffic is fraudulent. I no longer even write about it, because each time I get HATE MAIL.

DaCheese

^^Thats's right man...On day 1 an offer will have a 8% conversion for a simple email submit offer then it drops from there..

On day 2, i got a measly 0.5% conversion to the same offer with the same referrers..

I do track kws, #affid# and #rid# but the same kws and referrers that converted on day 1 will not convert on other days..

The problem with 7search is the inconsistency of the traffic quality as what works today will probably not work tomorrow.

FYI, tried direct linking and landers with the same conclusion.

JasonWestwick

Guys,

In case you have been living under a rock for a few years, Ruck is a legend, the man knows his s**t.

Quality guide and a must read for anyone advertising or thinking of getting involved with 7search.

pacelattin

7Search pays him, and pays everyone who promotes them a referral fee. I used to get very good sized checks from 7search when it worked. I had one friend doing $100k a month, now nothing...


The problem now is that everyone I refer to them now comes back and tells me that they tried it, and have had horrible results. This is within the last 3-4 months.

The problem is with the quality, its always been bad, but its gotten a lot worse lately. I have no idea why.

Are some people making money from 7search, of course.

On that note, Ruck is one of the smartest guys in our industry: he wants you to click on his link, download his guide, sign up for his private forum, pay him money, then maybe pay him more money to go to a seminar. Only difference between his stuff and all the other crap out there, is that he actually has a history of personally making money in the industry, while 90% of the gurus out there haven't made a penny, or were one-hit wonders.

pacelattin

This is what everyone is emailing me DAILY right now about 7search which is why i am no longer writing about it.

Bujuk

yes, the main concern is the traffic quality. 7search claims that they have system inplace in fighting for the fraud clicks. yes i can still see many instance of the same IPs clicking on the same ads more than once. for example yesterday I ran a test and got over 200 clicks, and yet not a single conversion. and i can see many repeated ips. some even clicks for up to 6 times on a single ads.

so fighting frauds clicks will not be an easy task if 7search dont play they part properly. i dont think i want to go through the traffic logs daily. and i dont think you want to do that either. unless the return is large enough to justify for the time and effort.

pacelattin, i did follow some of your tips to start with

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