The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA?

JasonParker · 02-10-2012, 04:48 PM

I just started with CPA about a week ago.

I've got a campaign profitable in the Games vertical... spitting out between $15 to $20 a day profit from CPV.

How can I go from $17 profit per day to $1,700 profit per day?

Kevin Rayman · 02-10-2012, 04:56 PM

More URLs
Try to get better conversion ratio
Scale to other CPV networks
Find a better offer (Make your own offer)

You can't simply turn that small campaign to a $1700 profit campaign. If that was possible, we would all be millionaires..

cucr3 · 02-10-2012, 05:36 PM

Scale.
Try other advertising mediums (ppc, fb, display, etc).
Focus on $170 first, then move on to $1700. You are just setting yourself of to be disappointed if you don't reach that instantly after $17 a day profit.

PPV Affiliate · 02-10-2012, 05:36 PM

Bottom line - you need more volume. This means more targets & more traffic sources. It's achievable, but you need to really think in terms of scale.

HairyPoppins · 02-10-2012, 09:41 PM

Test. Test. Test.

When you find what works, it's time to scale.

mtmjohn · 02-10-2012, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonParker

I just started with CPA about a week ago.

I've got a campaign profitable in the Games vertical... spitting out between $15 to $20 a day profit from CPV.

How can I go from $17 profit per day to $1,700 profit per day?

1. Add more targets, urls or even keywords.
2. Copy your campaign to other CPV networks (mediatraffic, trafficvance, adonnetwork, directcpv, leadimpact)
3. Always rotate the same offer among at least 2 networks.
4. Try other traffic sources (ppc, media buying etc).

Good luck.

JasonParker · 02-11-2012, 06:49 AM

Thanks guys.

I tried moving my campaign over to Media Traffic and it doesn't seem like I'm actually getting much traffic from them.

Traffic Vance seems to be the ideal place, but I'm going to go ahead and try to scale by expanding my targets before I do that.

Yesterday was a $31 profit day so I think I've found a winning offer at least.

Thanks to a post mtmjohn here made in another thread I was able to find a list of about 200 new high traffic targets using Google Ad Planner and they're based on the demographics I'm targeting.

So I'm going to throw some money at those targets today and see if I can pull out a handful of new winning targets and at least try to double the daily profit of the campaign overnight.

mtmjohn · 02-11-2012, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonParker

Yesterday was a $31 profit day so I think I've found a winning offer at least.

Thanks to a post mtmjohn here made in another thread I was able to find a list of about 200 new high traffic targets using Google Ad Planner and they're based on the demographics I'm targeting.

So I'm going to throw some money at those targets today and see if I can pull out a handful of new winning targets and at least try to double the daily profit of the campaign overnight.

You are welcome Jason. Glad to see you're trying to scale this up! Good luck with your campaigns!

cucr3 · 02-11-2012, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonParker

Thanks to a post mtmjohn here made in another thread I was able to find a list of about 200 new high traffic targets using Google Ad Planner and they're based on the demographics I'm targeting.

Can you post which one? mtmjohn has a lot of helpful posts here :P

Kevin Rayman · 02-11-2012, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cucr3

Can you post which one? mtmjohn has a lot of helpful posts here :P

The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA?

PPC-Coach · 02-11-2012, 12:18 PM

This is where I differ from a lot of guys. I say leave that one alone now, build up 9 more in other niches with other offers to that point. (that's 10 x $17 profit per day = $170 profit per day or x 30 days = $5,100 per month profit).

But the key being when one of your campaigns dies, (which they will), you'll have others going and won't be at square one again. Once you got a bunch doing some nice profit per day, THEN scale one or two at a time.

I've seen way to many try to squeeze another 0.0005% out of their campaign in an effort to "scale it" only to wreck the whole thing and be right back at square one again. It's painful to go through. You can learn it the easy way or the hard way on this one.

JasonParker · 02-11-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cucr3

Can you post which one? mtmjohn has a lot of helpful posts here :P

No prob How to find websites for certain demographics?

JasonParker · 02-11-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

This is where I differ from a lot of guys. I say leave that one alone now, build up 9 more in other niches with other offers to that point. (that's 10 x $17 profit per day = $170 profit per day or x 30 days = $5,100 per month profit).

But the key being when one of your campaigns dies, (which they will), you'll have others going and won't be at square one again. Once you got a bunch doing some nice profit per day, THEN scale one or two at a time.

I've seen way to many try to squeeze another 0.0005% out of their campaign in an effort to "scale it" only to wreck the whole thing and be right back at square one again. It's painful to go through. You can learn it the easy way or the hard way on this one.

That WAS my original plan

Except I tested a couple other offers, threw some money at them, and didn't see much potential in them so I keep going back to this same offer and campaign.

02-10-2012, 04:48 PM	#1
JasonParker Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 4,145 Thanks: 891 Thanked 1,048 Times in 432 Posts	The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA? I just started with CPA about a week ago. I've got a campaign profitable in the Games vertical... spitting out between $15 to $20 a day profit from CPV. How can I go from $17 profit per day to $1,700 profit per day?

02-10-2012, 04:56 PM	#2
Kevin Rayman Elite Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180 Thanks: 65 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts	Re: The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA? More URLs Try to get better conversion ratio Scale to other CPV networks Find a better offer (Make your own offer) You can't simply turn that small campaign to a $1700 profit campaign. If that was possible, we would all be millionaires..
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JasonParker Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 4,145 Thanks: 891 Thanked 1,048 Times in 432 Posts	Re: The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA? Thanks guys. I tried moving my campaign over to Media Traffic and it doesn't seem like I'm actually getting much traffic from them. Traffic Vance seems to be the ideal place, but I'm going to go ahead and try to scale by expanding my targets before I do that. Yesterday was a $31 profit day so I think I've found a winning offer at least. Thanks to a post mtmjohn here made in another thread I was able to find a list of about 200 new high traffic targets using Google Ad Planner and they're based on the demographics I'm targeting. So I'm going to throw some money at those targets today and see if I can pull out a handful of new winning targets and at least try to double the daily profit of the campaign overnight.

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PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,553 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: The difference between profitting $17 and $1700 every day with CPV and CPA? This is where I differ from a lot of guys. I say leave that one alone now, build up 9 more in other niches with other offers to that point. (that's 10 x $17 profit per day = $170 profit per day or x 30 days = $5,100 per month profit). But the key being when one of your campaigns dies, (which they will), you'll have others going and won't be at square one again. Once you got a bunch doing some nice profit per day, THEN scale one or two at a time. I've seen way to many try to squeeze another 0.0005% out of their campaign in an effort to "scale it" only to wreck the whole thing and be right back at square one again. It's painful to go through. You can learn it the easy way or the hard way on this one.