Cpa For Newbies

WhosMaverick · 02-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Hi guys!

Dont wanna keep going over the same subject but...

As a newbie that i am, what would you *more experienced* marketers recommend with regards to directions to take?

- Would you go with a coach such as Luke or similar (if any?)?
- Would you spend your budget on paid traffic with PPCFormula or similar?
- A combination of the above?
- Any other sugestions or advice?

Ive seen ppc-coach aswell, but id like mentoring and then getting into ppc later on once some cashflow is being made.

I know its a personal choice and that experience and repetition is mother of all skill, but i AM new and i want to avoid at least "some" pitfalls if possible.

I am a bit confused as to which route to take...

Hope the above makes sense.

Thanks for advice

bested · 02-09-2009, 03:03 PM

I think you could find plenty of guides on CPA around the internet to not really need a coach. Of course if you find someone who is willing to help you out via instant messenger or something, it couldn't hurt. You could just read a blog that is all about cpa from start to finish and figure out that bloggers pitfalls, while making sure you avoid them.

honestbizpro · 02-09-2009, 03:57 PM

Hey WhosMaverick.....Good question.

I think one step you can take and you will never go wrong is start to create a property you own. Pick a niche that you know has a targeted market that is already existing. Start researching helpful content.

Become familiar with backlink techniques. Make it sticky with videos and images, and offer a opt-in freebie report for listbuilding.

Now no matter what you do in marketing you will have a living breathing asset (as long as you do not neglect it) that will assist you in any form of marketing you pursue.

And all of the above can be outsourced as well. Good Luck2u.

RebeccaL · 02-09-2009, 04:00 PM

Learn from the vast free resources on the internet. Dont stuff other people's pockets. It is possible to learn everything through self education and experimentation.

Read forums and practice practice practice!

darryl-thomas · 02-09-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurRose

This, but I advise not experimenting with PPC. It can turn out costly

exactly...unless of course you have a tremendous budget to burn through

s.miller · 02-09-2009, 05:51 PM

if not with PPC,how to test and practice dis cpa??

youtube?blackhat method?

win292 · 02-09-2009, 06:05 PM

PPC really will cost you a lots of money!!

Jays80 · 02-11-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by win292

PPC really will cost you a lots of money!!

Not really provided you have done your home work right!! You can always control the bids,

Jays80 · 02-11-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebeccaL

Read forums and practice practice practice!

Right on spot, Unfortunately that is the only way to master PPC,

honestbizpro · 02-11-2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Sample

Call me biased, but that is about as far from true as you can get. As I've said many times, the best CPA methods aren't divulged for free or without revshare most times.

So getting the REAL information by just poking around isn't going to happen. The other alternative is to come up with your own methods and experiment. 2 major problems with that.

1 is time. It takes years to develop methods properly

2 is that some people have the ability to create profitable methods, others don't and never will. It's much like a talent you can say. For example, you can sit in your room all day long for 5 years straight and write songs. Chances are you would NEVER write a #1 hit song. Others can sit down and crank out a #1 tune one out of 20 times.

So you need a lot of time and a lot of talent to do it on your own and it still isn't guaranteed. Is that the smartest most efficient way to go about it? I would say no.

Buy good information and not only start making money now, but guarantee you'll get a #1 hit. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

I always find it interesting when someone thinks you can find the real insider huge earning methods for free. If that person actually knew them, they know that info would never be given for free.

Luke's 2 cents for the day.

I have to totally agree with ...gulp...the L word!

I see that name so much I can't bring myself to say it.

Why bother going around in circles when you can have a pinpoint laser guided total assault on your market?

I not only would invest in a couple different sources to learn from but as many as I could possilbly find.

That is when the light will go off in your head....what are they all doing correctly, how can you take it a step further...how you may even think of a combination of methods to create an original method of your own?

No, don't do any blind shot in the dark experimenting...let the experimenting begin after you get what works and has proven results already.

RebeccaL · 02-11-2009, 06:43 PM

Luke, many people started with nothing and taught themself everything they know. You yourself probably started out experimenting and often that is simply the best way to learn.
Personally I would prefer to spend $1000 on PPC and test various strategies than spend $1000 on coaching and ebooks. After all, what works for someone else may not work for you and 99% of ebooks and courses are not going to divulge exact strategies, niches and products that are converting for them - who wants to create more competition for themself?

yaz8888 · 02-11-2009, 06:47 PM

I'd recommend starting slow and finding a program with hands on help from an expert..I use a program with video training every step of the way

W.P. Allen · 02-11-2009, 07:21 PM

Luke, contact me. I've been trying to get a hold of you for a while.

caleb · 02-11-2009, 11:08 PM

PPC can be expensive to learn or experiment with. I think a combination of self-study and personal coaching is the ideal way

Joshua.Taylor · 02-12-2009, 05:41 PM

One of the best courses I found for PPC and CPA marketing was PayPerClick Formula by Gauher Chaudhry. It's definitely not cheap, but it is a great course.

Joshua.Taylor · 02-12-2009, 05:42 PM

Just an FYI, that original PPCFormula is closed, but will be re-opening next month, so it you want it you can sign up to be on the list.

lakatos · 02-13-2009, 01:04 AM

For one-on-one coaching, I would recommend CPA Coaching - Uncover the secrets, Generate The Results ! .

ZenTraveler · 02-18-2009, 01:30 AM

If you want to play around with PPC you can sign up to Yahoo Search Marketing using the $199 rebate coupon (if still active - if not, search for a $100 or $75 dollar one) and you only spend $30 of your own bucks. Make sure you have an idea of what you're doing (Wealthy Affiliates have a lot of material on PPC or a free guide at wholovesmoney.com) and keep your CPC under 0.30c USD.

bigtay · 02-18-2009, 02:38 AM

Try to get to the top of google serps for "acai" and "acai berr." If you can achieve this, watch the money pile up.

prop37 · 02-18-2009, 06:08 AM

Hey guys,

can anybody enlighten me with regards to the following situation?

Basically, i started a new campaign on google.

I was getting a low rate of clicks but decent conversion.

Next time i checked the campaign i noticed there was a discrepancy of around 100 clicks between Google's figures and the CPA network's figures.

I know that the CPA network will never have the same figures as Google, and that Google registers "unique" clicks, etc, etc.....but the difference in clicks is huge here.
For example CPA network 37 clicks - Google 137 clicks.

I thought maybe someone was deliberately clicking on my advert repeatedly, but surely Google would pick that up?

Can anybody offer some advice?

I hope there's someone out there who is experienced and a normal human being, unfortunately so far i've noticed that a lot of people in the Warrior forum seem to spend most of their time bitching about a product or guru, or putting down "newbies" while displaying a certain air of superiority.

Thanks for reading.

Joshua.Taylor · 02-18-2009, 10:42 PM

Wow, a 100 click difference. Well, some networks will "shave" a bit, but that's an awful lot of shaving. What network is it?

prop37 · 02-19-2009, 03:44 AM

Hi Joshua,

its Max Bounty, though i don't think its the network.

Surely they wouldn't think they could get away with shaving off 100 clicks!

I know they had a little problem with their servers recently, but i think that was minimal.

I haven't got any good info from them or Google, so at the moment i'm doing nothing......can't afford to be paying for 100 expensive clicks for no return.

Thanks.

WhosMaverick · 02-19-2009, 11:15 AM

Could be click fraud....

Way to much of a gap there buddie.

You may want to get in touch with google?

02-09-2009, 01:47 PM	#1
WhosMaverick Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Cpa For Newbies Hi guys! Dont wanna keep going over the same subject but... As a newbie that i am, what would you more experienced marketers recommend with regards to directions to take? - Would you go with a coach such as Luke or similar (if any?)? - Would you spend your budget on paid traffic with PPCFormula or similar? - A combination of the above? - Any other sugestions or advice? Ive seen ppc-coach aswell, but id like mentoring and then getting into ppc later on once some cashflow is being made. I know its a personal choice and that experience and repetition is mother of all skill, but i AM new and i want to avoid at least "some" pitfalls if possible. I am a bit confused as to which route to take... Hope the above makes sense. Thanks for advice
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02-09-2009, 03:03 PM	#2
bested Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cpa For Newbies I think you could find plenty of guides on CPA around the internet to not really need a coach. Of course if you find someone who is willing to help you out via instant messenger or something, it couldn't hurt. You could just read a blog that is all about cpa from start to finish and figure out that bloggers pitfalls, while making sure you avoid them.
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02-09-2009, 03:57 PM	#3
honestbizpro Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 3,887 Thanks: 199 Thanked 525 Times in 327 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Hey WhosMaverick.....Good question. I think one step you can take and you will never go wrong is start to create a property you own. Pick a niche that you know has a targeted market that is already existing. Start researching helpful content. Become familiar with backlink techniques. Make it sticky with videos and images, and offer a opt-in freebie report for listbuilding. Now no matter what you do in marketing you will have a living breathing asset (as long as you do not neglect it) that will assist you in any form of marketing you pursue. And all of the above can be outsourced as well. Good Luck2u.
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02-09-2009, 04:00 PM	#4
RebeccaL Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,981 Thanks: 166 Thanked 156 Times in 58 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cpa For Newbies Learn from the vast free resources on the internet. Dont stuff other people's pockets. It is possible to learn everything through self education and experimentation. Read forums and practice practice practice!
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02-09-2009, 05:51 PM	#6
s.miller HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 112 Thanks: 45 Thanked 11 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies if not with PPC,how to test and practice dis cpa?? youtube?blackhat method?

02-09-2009, 06:05 PM	#7
win292 Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 38 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cpa For Newbies PPC really will cost you a lots of money!!

02-11-2009, 06:43 PM	#11
RebeccaL Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,981 Thanks: 166 Thanked 156 Times in 58 Posts Social Networking	Re: Cpa For Newbies Luke, many people started with nothing and taught themself everything they know. You yourself probably started out experimenting and often that is simply the best way to learn. Personally I would prefer to spend $1000 on PPC and test various strategies than spend $1000 on coaching and ebooks. After all, what works for someone else may not work for you and 99% of ebooks and courses are not going to divulge exact strategies, niches and products that are converting for them - who wants to create more competition for themself?
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02-11-2009, 06:47 PM	#12
yaz8888 Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cpa For Newbies I'd recommend starting slow and finding a program with hands on help from an expert..I use a program with video training every step of the way
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02-11-2009, 07:21 PM	#13
W.P. Allen Hi War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Internet Posts: 432 Thanks: 10 Thanked 32 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Luke, contact me. I've been trying to get a hold of you for a while.
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02-11-2009, 11:08 PM	#14
caleb Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies PPC can be expensive to learn or experiment with. I think a combination of self-study and personal coaching is the ideal way

02-12-2009, 05:41 PM	#15
Joshua.Taylor Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies One of the best courses I found for PPC and CPA marketing was PayPerClick Formula by Gauher Chaudhry. It's definitely not cheap, but it is a great course.
	My Current WSO: ►►► How To Get Accepted By Any CPA Network You Want, Without A Website Or Prior Experience ◄◄◄

02-12-2009, 05:42 PM	#16
Joshua.Taylor Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Just an FYI, that original PPCFormula is closed, but will be re-opening next month, so it you want it you can sign up to be on the list.
	My Current WSO: ►►► How To Get Accepted By Any CPA Network You Want, Without A Website Or Prior Experience ◄◄◄

02-13-2009, 01:04 AM	#17
lakatos Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 83 Thanks: 21 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies For one-on-one coaching, I would recommend CPA Coaching - Uncover the secrets, Generate The Results ! .

02-18-2009, 01:30 AM	#18
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02-18-2009, 02:38 AM	#19
bigtay baller Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 79 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Cpa For Newbies Try to get to the top of google serps for "acai" and "acai berr." If you can achieve this, watch the money pile up.
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02-18-2009, 06:08 AM	#20
prop37 Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Hey guys, can anybody enlighten me with regards to the following situation? Basically, i started a new campaign on google. I was getting a low rate of clicks but decent conversion. Next time i checked the campaign i noticed there was a discrepancy of around 100 clicks between Google's figures and the CPA network's figures. I know that the CPA network will never have the same figures as Google, and that Google registers "unique" clicks, etc, etc.....but the difference in clicks is huge here. For example CPA network 37 clicks - Google 137 clicks. I thought maybe someone was deliberately clicking on my advert repeatedly, but surely Google would pick that up? Can anybody offer some advice? I hope there's someone out there who is experienced and a normal human being, unfortunately so far i've noticed that a lot of people in the Warrior forum seem to spend most of their time bitching about a product or guru, or putting down "newbies" while displaying a certain air of superiority. Thanks for reading.

02-18-2009, 10:42 PM	#21
Joshua.Taylor Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 76 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Wow, a 100 click difference. Well, some networks will "shave" a bit, but that's an awful lot of shaving. What network is it?
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02-19-2009, 03:44 AM	#22
prop37 Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cpa For Newbies Hi Joshua, its Max Bounty, though i don't think its the network. Surely they wouldn't think they could get away with shaving off 100 clicks! I know they had a little problem with their servers recently, but i think that was minimal. I haven't got any good info from them or Google, so at the moment i'm doing nothing......can't afford to be paying for 100 expensive clicks for no return. Thanks.

02-19-2009, 11:15 AM	#23
WhosMaverick Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spain Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Cpa For Newbies Could be click fraud.... Way to much of a gap there buddie. You may want to get in touch with google?
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