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Old 03-05-2009, 03:54 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

Well where can I start?

It seems to me that everyone is jumping on the 'I'm a guru and can coach you to making $1000' a month (but it will cost you $1000's a month for me to coach you)' bandwagon. Sadly many people are falling for it and paying out hundreds if not thousands of dollars for some bogus coaching program.

I am just saying before you payout whatever to whoever, read through this forum. There is a well of information here and guess what? Its all free.

Also keep your wits about you before sending out any amount of money be it large or small.

I think if:
1. Its too good to be true then yes its too good to be true.
2. Someone has the method to make you 10000's a month then why would they want to share it?

Now just to end... I'm sure there are a few really good coaches out there but just be careful.

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Old 03-05-2009, 06:10 AM   #2
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Of coarse there are lots of good information available in this sub forum .

I still believe that if you refer to this sub forum you can learn lots of things .

But , it does not mean you do not need to invest , if you can get reliable coach who can teach proven techniques and strategies ...you should consider it .

I hope it helps.

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There does seem to be a sudden influx of coaches here.

Also if a coach is going to show things that are going to get you banned at networks, don't pay for it. You'll be out the money you paid, plus you'll be very pissed off when you find out the network you're dealing with isn't going to pay you. Even if you try to fly under the radar, you're still risking everything. So beware of that little tidbit too.


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There is a lot of truth to this. I will say it depends on your learning style and the knowledge you already have acquired, and your skill sets. If you get the right programs, it can save you time and put you on the fast track. The problem, of course, is knowing what programs are any good from the get go. Too many gurus that are not gurus for sure.

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There does seem to be a sudden influx of coaches here.

Also if a coach is going to show things that are going to get you banned at networks, don't pay for it. You'll be out the money you paid, plus you'll be very pissed off when you find out the network you're dealing with isn't going to pay you. Even if you try to fly under the radar, you're still risking everything. So beware of that little tidbit too.

I concur on all this advice. I learned the hard way by having sites delisted for taking the opiate of automated links and tricks. Just do it straight up and do it slow. The only thing that matters is, keywords, content and links. All three take time.

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Old 03-05-2009, 11:35 AM   #6
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people look for coaches cause of dissapointment in make money courses......you know all those ebooks that look like they make money, but once applied its missing something or saturated or the seller doesnt help.

Of course a coach can scam you..but thats where the research comes, and the risk of getting scammed is in everything.
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see i tend to disagree. with so much free info u can get information overload and be paralyzed into inaction. Also, what happens is that as a newbie u don't have a real way to gauge the quality of the info and it's not organized for u. coaches shorten the learning curve drastically. i didn't make a dime until i got a coach, and this is after purchasing ebooks (the rich jerk, holly mann's honest riches, derek gehl's course and many others) and reading this forum, and even then i didn't make ****. some people have and i commend them for it, but i look at it like this Michael Jordan had Phil Jackson, Muhammad Ali had Angelo Dundee, Tom Brady has Bill Belichick, so why wouldn't we benefit from coaching?
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i tend to agree with brendan,I prefer and can get more understanding with a step by step approach which you have to pay for.

There is definately a lot of great and useful information in this forum,but it can be overwhelming and very time consuming to try and put it all together.

Everyone is different,which makes the world more interesting,that's just my 2 cents worth.

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Let's put it like this: If you are really disciplined and focused then yes you can use the free information here and start making money with cpa the easy way.

Grab a CPA E-mail Submit offer -> Write quality articles and mass submit them to the all the directories -> Transfer the Traffic to your Submit CPA Offer -> Build Backlinks to your article so it ranks high in google for even more traffic !

This way you don't have to learn PPC and you don't have to spend all day testing campaigns and spying on your competition. Furthermore you keep all the profits as you don't spend money on advertising.

Will this make you thousand in a short amount of time?

No, and here's the problem.
Most people want lots of money quickly.

They hear that people are making big money through PPC to CPA so they try it and they burn their fingers and their money. Now they look for other ways, they buy more products or spend more hours in forums. They get distracted and every course points them into another direction. A legit coach could give them direction and let them focus on one method at a time and he could hold their hands and make them focus on proven tactics.

Now I think that a coach is the best way to cut the learning curve and to keep focus. Unfortunately there is no legit coach so far for CPA with a proven trackrecord, at least no one who is offering one on one coaching for lots of people and newbies.

So if you have discipline and if you take action (and more importantly stay focused on only one method a time) you can definitely use the free information in this forum and start making money with CPA following the plan I pointed out above.

If you are overwhelmed and you have trouble to take action and you got money to spend, you should definitely consider coaching once there is a affordable and legit coach available. This way you will save a lot of time and money.

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Old 03-09-2009, 11:20 PM   #10
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Let's put it like this: If you are really disciplined and focused then yes you can use the free information here and start making money with cpa the easy way.

Grab a CPA E-mail Submit offer -> Write quality articles and mass submit them to the all the directories -> Transfer the Traffic to your Submit CPA Offer -> Build Backlinks to your article so it ranks high in google for even more traffic !

This way you don't have to learn PPC and you don't have to spend all day testing campaigns and spying on your competition. Furthermore you keep all the profits as you don't spend money on advertising.

Will this make you thousand in a short amount of time?

No, and here's the problem.
Most people want lots of money quickly.

They hear that people are making big money through PPC to CPA so they try it and they burn their fingers and their money. Now they look for other ways, they buy more products or spend more hours in forums. They get distracted and every course points them into another direction. A legit coach could give them direction and let them focus on one method at a time and he could hold their hands and make them focus on proven tactics.

Now I think that a coach is the best way to cut the learning curve and to keep focus. Unfortunately there is no legit coach so far for CPA with a proven trackrecord, at least no one who is offering one on one coaching for lots of people and newbies.

So if you have discipline and if you take action (and more importantly stay focused on only one method a time) you can definitely use the free information in this forum and start making money with CPA following the plan I pointed out above.

If you are overwhelmed and you have trouble to take action and you got money to spend, you should definitely consider coaching once there is a affordable and legit coach available. This way you will save a lot of time and money.

My 2 cents
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I agree with those points yellowboy.

I have a feeling with the Over and Under Exposure that CPA marketing is getting, that some quality products and services are right around the corner.

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Old 03-11-2009, 11:52 AM   #11
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I believe in coaching or mentoring, because coaching has been around since the beginning of time. Most successful people will tell you they owe their success to a mentor. I myself am a certified Christian coach. I believe that if an IM coach tells you the whole truth about how long it will take you to reach your income goals, then he or she may be a legitimate coach. A coach is good at kicking you into gear and keeping you on track. We can all use a little assistance from someone who has already been there and done that.

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Some wants to share the info as a thank for what they learned. But they still want some money from it. And if you put ur own twist or does it many times you will earn more. And yes some of the things is to good to be true, look at the reviews and see if that one that is selling is respected.
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Certainly, there is good information over here. But most people lack of discipline to profit from it.
Nothing actually outstands a good coaching. As for the reason why they should teach you:
it could be financial incentive as in the coaching for Luke Sample or the Apprentice program of Howie Schwartz.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:03 PM   #14
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Certainly, there is good information over here. But most people lack of discipline to profit from it.
Nothing actually outstands a good coaching. As for the reason why they should teach you:
it could be financial incentive as in the coaching for Luke Sample or the Apprentice program of Howie Schwartz.
My 2 cents,
Coaching is cool, but even then there are no guarantees.

I kinda self taught myself many things like horseback riding, pool, chess, swimming, diving, could go on and on.

The beggining is sometimes not pretty, but after a while with practice you get extremely confident and you can improve on your weak areas.

CPA is not different. I started with nothing. I just tried. Took a single offer and started making up to a $100 a day with no spending.

I have come a long way but I am still learning, and will always continue to learn as much as I can.

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I see where you are coming from honestbizpro.

Now lets say that you want to get from 100 a day to 1000 a day.

I think that's a nice goal to have and might not be easy to reach if you learn by trial and error. I think this is the best time to get mentoring or to join a mastermind group.

First learn the basics for free or in affordable courses, check the forums or get WSO's from reputable members.
Once you got the basics covered, get a coach and ramp the whole thing up to the next level. At this stage a mentor can totally update your business, make it more efficient and effective, show you how to reach the next level.

Now that you already know the basics you just have to implement everything.
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