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Old 07-30-2009, 08:14 AM   #51
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stay away from craigslist..
yes, please stay away, more money for me .
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Yeah, stay away from Craigslist if you hate money. It's true that posting on CL can be a challenge but once you learn the techniques and strategies the sky is the limit.

I am working with several Warriors that are killing it on Craigslist right now. If you don't want to take the time to learn Craigslist then you can always outsource to a professional.
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Most of the networks dont allow Craigslist.

It also depends on the CPA offer which you are promoting, say, if the CPA offer is CPS, then there will not be any problem.

Also, some advertisers creates a issue when they find that leads are coming from CL. CPA offer that pays $9 per page submit usually have a field where user have to enter their phone number and when advertisers/CPA Network see that you are making $xxx per day from just one CPA offer, they will personally ask from lead..and they will get to know that you are promoting through CL.

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...Promote CPA offer that pays per sale/free trial and mostly you will remain safe.
...Dont make $xxx in one day using CL.
...Have a good relationship with your AM, so even if something goes wrong, you will not loose your account, if you are making good income from other CPA offers..It depends on many factors.
...CL is a goldmine. You just need to find a good match b/w cpa offer and CL section.

Start making $xx per day, few dollars and then increase it slowly and slowly...Dont make $500 in your first day!

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Edit: There are many other ways to make money from CL. You really dont need to go after posting.

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the sky is the limit.
yeah i agree craigslist really is a goldmine. more posts=more money. sky really is the limit and 4 figure days aren't out of reach...

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Dont make in one day using CL.
if you belong to many networks you can get up to that in a day.

i agree if your doing craigslist stuff, talk to your AM and make sure everything is okay. some don't mind the traffic, but it depends...
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The bottom line is that if you are promoting CPS products, there shouldn't be any issues at all.

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See my manager in an affiliate network told me
" they accept any method which don't harm the advertiser "
If this don't hurt then go
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So what about responding to CL wanted ads? Is that usually ok? If I respond to a wanted ad with a (cloaked) affiliate link, is that ok? Or would it have to be a link to my own site to be acceptable? Or is none of that acceptable?

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So what about responding to CL wanted ads? Is that usually ok? If I respond to a wanted ad with a (cloaked) affiliate link, is that ok? Or would it have to be a link to my own site to be acceptable? Or is none of that acceptable?
Usually, I assume you will be responding with email submit offer or such. So, there will not be any problem at all if you keep it under radar.

However, I usually go after big offers which pays at least $9 per lead.

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Usually, I assume you will be responding with email submit offer or such. So, there will not be any problem at all if you keep it under radar.

However, I usually go after big offers which pays at least $9 per lead.

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Well I'd want to go for bigger offers as well. But is that violating anything by replying to a wanted ad via email with an aff. link? I used to do this with Ebay and had some success.

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Well I'd want to go for bigger offers as well. But is that violating anything by replying to a wanted ad via email with an aff. link? I used to do this with Ebay and had some success.
If you see it from CPA network point of view, then they dont allow CL marketing at many times.

If you look it from the recipient point of view, then he will be slightly ok, that he has a chance to get a free iphone or a free trial to zzz..lol

Now, the answer to the question whether it is violating any CPA network rules or not. The answer more or less is yes. However, none of the CPA network will tell you straight forward that they will allow this and if you ask them they will tell you "this will violate out TOS and we do not allow CL marketing".

However, even if you send the leads using this, no one is gonna to ban you if you keep it under radar.

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However, even if you send the leads using this, no one is gonna to ban you if you keep it under radar.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

I used a different major (not CL) free classified site to test an offer in June and got a "you are in violation of the Publisher TOS" email from the CPA network.

I explained my error, questioned their warning (could not find it in their TOS and pointed out some vagueness), promised that the error was corrected, and that I would not do it again.

They reiterated that it was a violation, said they accepted my explanation and paid me my June commissions.

My point is, they make the rules and they will ban you.

I probably escaped banishment only because of the vagueness and maybe I am too valuable to them.

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I have come along way in my cpa and cl marketing over the past months and I have a few things to add...

First, yes, be careful because cl violates most TOS as noted above. Some am's dont mind if they are converting on the advertisers end, but be careful because most am's and networks dont allow this at all.

Second, if done properly, cl is STILL a goldmine, you just need to be creative. As a demonstration to a few people I have been coaching, I let them pick an offer and told them I bet I can make money with it. Set up a few very creative ads, autoresponses and landing pages and voila, got a few conversions a day ($35 payout). This is without fancy software like auto-posters and such.

The point is, there is still money to be miled from cl
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Just remember if you do promote on craigslist, make sure the offer allows it - i'd hate to see a fellow warrior lose there commission due to a technicality.

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Craigslist is hard job now, but as someone suggested, you could try referring people to your website with CPA offers on it. That may prove safer.

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Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

I used a different major (not CL) free classified site to test an offer in June and got a "you are in violation of the Publisher TOS" email from the CPA network.

I explained my error, questioned their warning (could not find it in their TOS and pointed out some vagueness), promised that the error was corrected, and that I would not do it again.

They reiterated that it was a violation, said they accepted my explanation and paid me my June commissions.

My point is, they make the rules and they will ban you.

I probably escaped banishment only because of the vagueness and maybe I am too valuable to them.

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ps - Learning experience - I could have avoided it had I cloaked my link properly. I forgot to and they could see my referrer. Sometimes it pays to slow down and make sure you have everything set up correctly.
Exactly.

If one doesnt cover his ass properly, then they will ban and most of the times will not even pay.

But if one covers his tracks properly, goes slowly in starting, make sure that leads converts at advertiser end and have a good relationship with AMs and even send leads to CPS offers, then he will most probably get paid

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But if one covers his tracks properly, goes slowly in starting, make sure that leads converts at advertiser end and have a good relationship with AMs and even send leads to CPS offers, then he will most probably get paid

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Yup. Do this and you will be ok. Don't get greedy and scale up too quickly.

If you do scale up I would recommend spreading it around several CPA networks to be safe. This is what I do and have never been in trouble.

I'm actually glad that affiliates don't want to go through all the hassle to post on craigslist. Less competition for me.
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That's right nowimhere, Craigslist is not dead.


Yea if you want to make money off ebay you got to be an affiliate. It's called ebay partner network. Pays over $20 bucks per sign up! Now imagine if you had a few ebay auctions on your site and one of your visitors wanted to place a bid and they were not a member of ebay? They click on the display auction....sign up to ebay...and "Ka Ching" you get paid in your sleep!
Isn't the ebay partner network hard to get into now? I used to be an ebay affiliate, and lost it somehow, and now they have denied me.
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Craigslist to CPA is not a good idea. You could have your comissions withheld or your affiliate network account deleted.

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Craigslist to CPA is not a good idea. You could have your comissions withheld or your affiliate network account deleted.


It can be a good idea, especially for those who don't have the capital to invest in PPC. BUT you MUST make sure this traffic is at least unofficially allowed by your affiliate manager.

Your AM may tell you that you should drive your cl traffic to a blog or landing page first and then if the traffic converts from the blog or landing page, its completely legit. In the end it comes down to what your affiliate manager allows. If he says absolutely no cl...dont do it
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There are other ways to get free traffic, IMO it's best to stay away from CL.

I've heard of AM's saying CL traffic is allowed, until pay day comes and the merchant finds out it was from CL and noone gets paid. This won't always happen, but it could. Just be careful if you are promoting with it!

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When it comes to CPA try to always have a legit landing page because you never know when your advertiser is going to be strict and ban you!
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Craigslist still dominates. You just need to know how to work it. It is actually 100x better now because a lot of people gave up on it. Also of course the CPA companies frown upon you iframing an offer and sending it to random craigslisters.

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Have you had any success with this method? I was starting my first CPA campaign similar to this method and was afraid that i would get banned from my network.
Method: From CL job section to my landing page with aweber form, then autorespond in 24 hrs with unemployment survey. GO or No?
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Also consider the relationship you have with your AM and your experience level. If you are brand new, chances are your AMs will not like CL traffic and you will not get paid.

If you have history and they know you can generate good traffic, then thats another story. I have had CL campaigns where my AM lowered payout below street because it was converting but not as well. At the end of the day, if the advertiser is making money and the network is making money, they will be flexible assuming they trust you!

Be smart. Also, try driving CL traffic to your site and then sell from there.

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Craigslist can also be a good source to drive traffic to an adsense site.
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Criagslist is ALIVE...

It continually gets tougher and you must be resilient to evolve with it, but it is sitll a ginormous traffic source. The traffic is free and abundant, so even tohugh conversion may not be great, profit is.

Its funny because the methods I use on CL are soo basic its pathetic. I think people overthink and think theres some secret software that has to be used to make money using CL. Thats what I thought when I first started to, its simply not true. Just be creative.


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So, can someone give me a clue, pretty please? I was burned badly by stupidity in direct CL to CPA.

What can you do between CL and CPA so that you are playing by the rules? Can you send CL to a squeeze page to add them to your list, then send them CPA offers? Or will the same rabid people from CL that would complain if you sent them direct to the CPA offer just get on your list, see who you're promoting and contact them anyway?

I just do not see a way around CL people notifying your CPA network. Some people have nothing better to do, I guess
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I have been reading through all of the threads and whew!

If it is this hard to do it, why not just use another accepted method. There are many to choose from.

I just needed to chime in on this one because why risk getting banned…
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My friend was looking for a date on CL and got hit with the usual dating site reply backs.
He was so pissed that he took it upon himself to visit the sites, find the affiliate/cpa network and report the trick.

These are real people with real pains and to "pretend" like you're a girl and then hit them with cpa offers or worst, spam them with other offers once you have the email address is bad Karma.

This business model will be stopped simply because once you find something that's free and easy to abuse, then the whole world will abuse it hence ..... it will become saturated and stopped.

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My friend was looking for a date on CL and got hit with the usual dating site reply backs.
He was so pissed that he took it upon himself to visit the sites, find the affiliate/cpa network and report the trick.

These are real people with real pains and to "pretend" like you're a girl and then hit them with cpa offers or worst, spam them with other offers once you have the email address is bad Karma.

This business model will be stopped simply because once you find something that's free and easy to abuse, then the whole world will abuse it hence ..... it will become saturated and stopped.

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I like that "Build a house on a solid foundation and you'll always have a home" I wonder what CL is doing to stop the spam. I mean if you post a dating ad you get flooded with spam. Like 20+ messages withing the first few hours. Seriously this cant keep happening, i wonder what cl has up their sleeve. Knowing them tho, they probably will start trying to file lawsuits on the advertisers lol.

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When you go to the Jobs section on Craigslist, you are now greeted with a warning about Affiliate Scams and are told that you should try to report them. My daughter was recently looking for a job, and a lot of what is posted in the job section is nonsense.

So if you are using Craigslist to scam/trick people, then even if you send them to an intermediate page to hide the referrer, you can still get caught. You can look at it as: "Some people don't have anything better to do" Or... "Perhaps people have many other better things to do, and resent wasting their time on bogus offers."

However, if you think outside the box, instead of trying to copy every deceptive method used by everyone else who purchased the same ebook as you did, it is not too difficult to find ways to reach the Craigslist audience in a way that people will be grateful for your offer.

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I have been reading through all of the threads and whew!

If it is this hard to do it, why not just use another accepted method. There are many to choose from.

I just needed to chime in on this one because why risk getting banned…

CL isnt that hard. It takes creativity but its not hard at all.

Some affilaite managers wont care so if this is true, then you dont have to worry about getting banned. At best, they may tell you that your CL traffic isnt converting and not pay you commission, but unlike ppc and paid methods, so what, it was free so you dont lose anything

If your AM or network doesnt let you, then yes, you do have that risk



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you have to send CL traffic to your own landing page. When i use to do this i was making about 2k A DAY!!!! Look reasoning is because Cl users complain to affiliate network and to advertisers. the goal is to stop those complaints. anyways thats all bh (spaming) so i'm not going into detail about how to lol.

Yes, CL is still a goldmine. With a little creativity you can reasonably easily make over 1k per day. MANY MANY people are doing it. The amount of traffic is insane and yes they are cracking down on this, but they have been for a long time. It will take more and more creativity to get around, but right now its still def worth it.


And dont think that this is all blackhat stuff. Craigslist is traffic and you can bring in good honest leads. There are a lot of blackhatters and ewhorers who give it a bad reputation (rightfully so) but there are still very legit ways...thats why some AMs let me and other use it.


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you get so much junk mail from CL anymore it seems like.
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Hi Kenster,

I just got a great craigs list marketing pprogram 2 days ago myself and it's miles above any others i've seen.

it sounds like it's just what you're looking for,the guy who put it out is named Kenny Cannon.

you can probably do a search here on the WF and find it or if not you can go to his blog and check it out.

KennyCannon.com

That is NOT an affiliate link,simply a link to his blog.

Hope that helps.

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Old 12-06-2009, 12:25 AM   #85
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I wouldn't call Craiglist dead. But it is oversaturated, definitely.

But what I do besides my other projects, is that Im collecting CL-emails via "CL EmailHarvesting"-Programs. Which will help me sending out different CPA-Offers.

Search for a harvesting-tool that collects emails in CL by category. I.e, if you do have CPALeads that are about Pets (Dogs, Cats etc.) then its pretty obvious that you need to harvest emails from the same category over at CraigList. And then just send out your emails.


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Old 12-06-2009, 03:35 AM   #86
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On Craigslist it says "FUN FACT: Reporting a scammer's "affiliate ID" to their affiliate marketing program often results in confiscation of the scammer's ill-gotten gains by the affiliate program." So I would not really recommend it.
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"stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings "

Let's say you figure out how to get relevant traffic from CL to your own web page (w/o tricking). Visitors click-thru relevant cpa ad links.

Do you think that this model would violate any cpa tos?

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Old 12-06-2009, 04:06 PM   #88
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As a newbie I dont really know if CL is dead for CPA. I use it for buying and selling physical goods all the time and I consider it a great part of the "underground ecomomy". I recently tried out posting to multiple CL cities by using information I found on YouTube. The guy said to make your ad a jpeg image and you can post all over the US. Well, I can tell that this information is already outdated. It looks like you need to kep your self ahead of the curve when using CL for CPa.
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:13 PM   #89
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On Craigslist it says "FUN FACT: Reporting a scammer's "affiliate ID" to their affiliate marketing program often results in confiscation of the scammer's ill-gotten gains by the affiliate program." So I would not really recommend it.

Yes, but some advertisers dont mind craigslist traffic. If you are doing it properly, you can get good leads for the advertiser and that is why some affiliate managers will let you test/run cl campaigns.



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"stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings "

Let's say you figure out how to get relevant traffic from CL to your own web page (w/o tricking). Visitors click-thru relevant cpa ad links.

Do you think that this model would violate any cpa tos?


This is 100% true if you arent allowed to use cl or you fake your traffic and they learn its from cl. In my experience, Craigslist traffic violates almost all networks TOS but that doesnt mean AMs will not let you try it. Doubtful they will let you if you dont have history with them or are driving decent traffic for a while with them. In other words, prob wont let noobs try.


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uhm, I ran some CL traffic a while back, make some cash, and so far, only one advertiser ban me. They didn't say that my CL traffic quality is bad, it;s just that they don't like to see more competitors on CL
oh well, yeah, it's worth, but you have to be careful

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I haven't had any success with Craiglist but there are a few who gained from it, maybe my procedure was just wrong and it's the reason why I am not doing CPA on craiglist.

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uhm, I ran some CL traffic a while back, make some cash, and so far, only one advertiser ban me. They didn't say that my CL traffic quality is bad, it;s just that they don't like to see more competitors on CL
oh well, yeah, it's worth, but you have to be careful


Thats a good point. I have heard from a few sources that many networks have network wide policy that CL is not allowed because they themselves are promoting va CL and dont want the competition. In this case you have two options...

1. Use a network that does let you drive CL traffic to offers

2. Get CL traffic but then convert that traffic to another kind. For example, drive CL traffic to a landing page with opt in, then use this email traffic to your offer. Again there are many ways around it, some are very sticky with the network and some not so sticky. Be creative, but be smart. In the end the network and the advertisers are partners...you want everybody to make money.


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Craigslist still dominates. You just need to know how to work it. It is actually 100x better now because a lot of people gave up on it. Also of course the CPA companies frown upon you iframing an offer and sending it to random craigslisters.
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I always had great success with CL because I never direct link..always to a niche blog first. Never get accused of spamming or breaking TOS that way.

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CL to a lander isn't necessarily called CL traffic. A lot of AM's will allow you to do it this way.

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CL spam is reaching a new low...

I want to sell my car, put an ad up locally.

Got a short response from a semi-legit non-spammy looking email address.

I responded.

The guy(rather his script) then asked me to look up insurance rates for him on my vehicle for sale and gave me his affiliate link to a insurance signup.. WTF?

Like I'm going to take my time to get the guy who inquired about my car insurance quotes?

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Craigslist is now better than ever in my opinion because a lot of marketers went else where. You just have to fly under the radar and get PVA accounts(easy if you know what to do).

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I always had great success with CL because I never direct link..always to a niche blog first. Never get accused of spamming or breaking TOS that way.
Exactly...setting up a custom autoresponder is also a must.
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it`s a little tricky.


i do think the best way to do it is with email auto responder.

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I'm going to be flat out honest - you can make money on facebook, but almost everything your doing is against the terms of service for both your network and affiliate offers, networks are cracking down on this now, they are not only not paying affiliates, but are banning there accounts. I'm not saying don't do it, just know the consequences if you get caught.

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