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Old 03-20-2009, 04:11 PM   #1
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Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

Thanks for your help!!
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well if ur iframing that must mean that ur incentivising right? and no doubt the offer does not allow that. in that case ur gonna have to spoof the refera, knock up a legit landing page to use. that should keep your AM happy.

Untill none of ur leads convert and the advertiser complains anyway...
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Craigslist is a little harder than when I first started but there is still gold to be mined. You really want to take the position of someone helping the posters and not selling to them.

You always want to keep your reponses to posters personal to them. I would only refer to them to my own webproperty. (which just happens to have CPA offers on it)

You can also do very well matching people who are buying or selling on ebay to people that are buying or selling on craigslist. I made some good money that way as well.

Also, don't forget backpage.com

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Craigslist is so hard to use now a days. I think you would be better off posting on myspace.com

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Thanks Everybody.

Crunch: I only did 100% iframe so that I could say check this out if you want and then have a relevant domain instead of having a long affiliate link. Not incentivizing though.

HonestBiz: Thanks, the offer is pretty useful and could be helpful. Spin off of your CL idea in your WSO. A few of the people actually emailed me back and said thanks, so it should convert on the advertisers side? Its not a fine print or stupid email submit type offer.

Google: I will check out myspace.
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Thanks Everybody.

Crunch: I only did 100% iframe so that I could say check this out if you want and then have a relevant domain instead of having a long affiliate link. Not incentivizing though.

HonestBiz: Thanks, the offer is pretty useful and could be helpful. Spin off of your CL idea in your WSO. A few of the people actually emailed me back and said thanks, so it should convert on the advertisers side? Its not a fine print or stupid email submit type offer.

Google: I will check out myspace.

Hey Kenster!

Glad to hear my WSO was helpful.

I am still finding new ideas to expand on with CPA all the time...just takes a little testing and thinking outside the box sometimes.

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Has anyone read the "New Acceptable Use Policy", at Neverblue? It has a paragraph about Craigslist.. basically prohibiting every activity with that page. I'm wondering if anyone still manages to get that done nevertheless..

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Nowimhere, I would say def get the WSO. Its 10 bucks! You should be able to make that back up in no time using any of the methods

Lead evolution is too expensive for me too I don't mind manually getting the craigslist.org email addresses, I just have no idea how to send out a bunch since CL has filters like crazy. Perhaps there is software out there that does this???
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Hey guys! I missed these somehow.



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I was thinking about getting your wso, now you've almost confirmed it with this tiny freebee of info. Do you cover in more detail how to take people buying or selling on ebay/amazon and matching them with people on Craigslist? Do you need to be a merchant on ebay? Does ebay have an affiliate program? I have lots of questions.. I've only made about 75 dollars with PPC to CPA. Like our friend Kenster, My PPC funds got eaten up.
I really want to get lead evolution but have decided to get it with actuall cash instead of relying on my credit card. In the mean time I'm shopping for more affordable solutions. Any insights?

P.S- I know there is software (lead evolution) that sells for big cash
that connects leads from craigslist to CPA or anything else you want!
It has more than just craigslist as its lead source too.. Its just really expensive. But it should open your eyes to other simular products/services/software that does the same. So NO I'd say craiglist to CPA is not dead!!!



That's right nowimhere, Craigslist is not dead.

The big Gurus give you a piece of the puzzle but then you have to purchase an upsell or never ever get the whole picture! What was key for me to start making money was trying creative methods, combining methods, and just doing things a little different than everyone else.

Yea if you want to make money off ebay you got to be an affiliate. It's called ebay partner network. Pays over $20 bucks per sign up! Now imagine if you had a few ebay auctions on your site and one of your visitors wanted to place a bid and they were not a member of ebay? They click on the display auction....sign up to ebay...and "Ka Ching" you get paid in your sleep!

Yes leads evolution is a bit pricey but also yes you can find leads manually. I started out with a single offer and promoted it manually then later I was able to afford an expensive software.

I am attending a Leads summit next week that is FREE for the owners of the software and the speakers are all 5 Star Legends!

Remember you do not have to hit a homerun out the park in the very beggining...just concentrate on getting some steady income going, then start to re-invest some of that money, and start to try different methods and see what you are comfortable doing that brings in some cash. Pretty soon you will be full steam ahead!





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Nowimhere, I would say def get the WSO. Its 10 bucks! You should be able to make that back up in no time using any of the methods

Lead evolution is too expensive for me too I don't mind manually getting the craigslist.org email addresses, I just have no idea how to send out a bunch since CL has filters like crazy. Perhaps there is software out there that does this???


Hi Kenster!

Thanks for the thumbs up on my WSO! Glad you saw value.

If you go to the rating and review section, there are a couple of free softwares mentioned (in the LE thread)....check them out for yourself maybe you can make money with them.

I like LE because it keeps evolving and comes with webinars, methods and all that but hey, we all have to start somewhere.

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The reason most won't accept cl traffic is the craigslist user was normally tricked into doing the offer. This makes for a ****ty lead. Merchants don't like ****ty leads, networks don't like affiliates that generate ****ty leads. If you're doing it and "getting away with it" you'll get caught sooner then later. There are plenty of legit ways to generate leads without using CL.


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The reason most won't accept cl traffic is the craigslist user was normally tricked into doing the offer. This makes for a ****ty lead. Merchants don't like ****ty leads, networks don't like affiliates that generate ****ty leads. If you're doing it and "getting away with it" you'll get caught sooner then later. There are plenty of legit ways to generate leads without using CL.


Hi PPC-Coach, I absolutely agree with you!

That is why I always suggest giving helpful, real good content and tips if you can.

But what's up with the nasty words? People look up to you and I really hope newbies do not start talking like that and thinking it is cool because you do it.

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Hey PPC-COACH.... Whats with the bad words man.... I agree with honestbizpro, If people on this forum start thinking they can talk like that, I don't think I would be around for very long.



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Thanks for the info on CL. I have tried a few before without great success but after reading this will give it a try again using multiple methods.

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cl and craigslist is deffinetly not dead you just have to use some creative marketing ;-) I was doing about 3k per month on autopilot. I stopped because I don't want to have to buy pvas.

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This sounds interesting
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The reason most won't accept cl traffic is the craigslist user was normally tricked into doing the offer. This makes for a ****ty lead. Merchants don't like ****ty leads, networks don't like affiliates that generate ****ty leads. If you're doing it and "getting away with it" you'll get caught sooner then later. There are plenty of legit ways to generate leads without using CL.

I get your point
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Can anyone recommend a good ebook to learn about this; a free one would be great, I'm tired of spending hard earned money on filler stuff that doesn't teach much.
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CPA networks are harsh when it comes to CL or other free classifieds, social bookmarking/networking strategies. They usually have it outlined in their TOS-s. However if you get creative and know how to fly under the radar then there's definitely some money to be made.

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No its not dead but you need to be careful so that you don't get banned.
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Definitely not dead, its possible that some niches are performing less than they were before, but there is still money to be made on CL if you are creative, and spend the time to test out different campaigns and ads.
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Yea it depends on what type of offer you are promoting. There are certain types of posters there that you can create an entire system around.

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Yea it depends on what type of offer you are promoting. There are certain types of posters there that you can create an entire system around.
Would you believe I got turned down by the eBay Partner affiliate network?
I'd sailed through all my CPA apps, and when I saw this matching up CL to eBay buyers, I really got interested.
Does your WSO include how to get your eBay partner app accepted?

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Would you believe I got turned down by the eBay Partner affiliate network?
I'd sailed through all my CPA apps, and when I saw this matching up CL to eBay buyers, I really got interested.
Does your WSO include how to get your eBay partner app accepted?
Hey ToddieM!

Now that is wierd. I wouldn't give up on it though. (too much potential for future earnings) I have been with them since you had to go thru CJ to join but I do not think they changed that much. I'll send you a PM.

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Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.
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Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.

Awesome! Sent you a PM.

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Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.
More than likely you are not tricking people to sign up which is why they are converting.

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Hey PPC-COACH.... Whats with the bad words man.... I agree with honestbizpro, If people on this forum start thinking they can talk like that, I don't think I would be around for very long.



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I never knew ****ty was so offensive. I have heard worst on television. Doesn't your coach teach you how to run job offers, on craigslist, and then run them through cpa offers on craigslist? Well if that is true than I can understand PPC-Coach word usage.

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Craigslist is so hard to use now a days. I think you would be better off posting on myspace.com
Are you talking about a myspace page or myspace classifieds?
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I never knew ****ty was so offensive. I have heard worst on television. Doesn't your coach teach you how to run job offers, on craigslist, and then run them through cpa offers on craigslist? Well if that is true than I can understand PPC-Coach word usage.





I think the funky language should be nipped now before it gets worse...soon we will be calling each other names...why not raise the bar..not lower it.

I can't believe that would even get debated.

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I think the funky language should be nipped now before it gets worse...soon we will be calling each other names...why not raise the bar..not lower it.

I can't believe that would even get debated.
There is no debate to this. If I want to use the word ****ty than I can. It described the leads PPC-Coach was talking about perfectly.

You need to grow more of a thick skin if that word upsets you so much. Besides, I think you are exaggerating too much here. No one is calling any names by using the word ****ty. It does not lead to anything else.

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I think a balance of Craigslist, USFreeads and Backpage one take leverage the advantages of classified advertising pretty well. I don't like Kijjiji much though. Anyone else want to chime in?

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You forgot Gumtree in the list ... :-)

Anyone hard up can always take a look - I think I have the first serious trial version available of what could be a high ticket software. But I don't have time to do seminars which would be why you have to pay me $1500 ... so I sell for $67 in my WSO.

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craigslist is still very profitable
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I had one of my pubs mail to CL, not good, I almost lost my campaign from my advertiser. My advertiser received many complaints from CL about spamming their list.
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Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

Thanks for your help!!
It can depend on the advertiser's offer. Most of the time they will spell it out if they do not allow it, but cragslist or not - spam is spam - so be careful on who/what & how you do it.

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Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.

Thats great news! I just got the CPA WSO and can't wait to get started trying out craigslist and some of the other methods in it. Definitely worth the $10!
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[quote=SFranklin;692780]Thats great news! I just got the CPA WSO and can't wait to get started trying out craigslist and some of the other methods in it. Definitely worth the $10![/quote]



Great! I know you will do fine!

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I certainly hope that Craiglist to CPA is dead...its not what it was intended for.

Is everyone here too young to remember when Ebay was a great place to buy and sell real products?

Lets see...Has Ebay recently pissed off all of their sellers AND buyers because:
a. they enjoy it and they like being the big bad 'PayBay' guys?
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b. they had no choice because they couldn't figure out a better way to deal with all of the marketing spam?

Lets all sit back and watch Craigslist be destroyed too...(and lets encourage it too...)
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Thats really just saying that you have to be 'smart' to spam CL. Same with Ebay. That doesn't argue against my point that this is NOT the kind of thing these sites were made for.

Personally, I never go to Ebay and CL anymore because of the spam and fraud.

I used to buy my daughter used video games on Ebay all the time...now I find it more worthwhile to drive to a local buy/sell/trade store in town because I won't be bombarded with BS spam and fraud crap.

Its really bad that everyone wants to spam CL and Ebay to the point that they alienate their real customers...but its even worse that many of these same people start threads on this forum bitching about policies that CL and Ebay put in place to deal with this stuff.
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Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.

Good for you John34, if done right, you never have to spam and you actually could get thanked.

Also matching buyers and sellers from ebay with buyers and sellers on Craigslist works as well.

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Pablo you mentioned some things about Neverblue and Craigslist. That is very true.

But these guys are now mainly scraping and "emailing" to these people. So now that falls under the category of Email Marketing.

Many people are not posting ads like before, and using an autoresponder to circulate through CPA offers.

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Yes they can track and its not allowed.

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I never knew ****ty was so offensive. I have heard worst on television. Doesn't your coach teach you how to run job offers, on craigslist, and then run them through cpa offers on craigslist? Well if that is true than I can understand PPC-Coach word usage.
Hey Thomas, are you talking about Luke Sample?

The answer to that would be NO. I was already making a ton of money on CL before I joined Luke... And the way I was doing it, the advertisers, networks, and myself LOVED it. So we skipped that method with his coaching.


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So, can someone give me a clue, pretty please? I was burned badly by stupidity in direct CL to CPA.

What can you do between CL and CPA so that you are playing by the rules? Can you send CL to a squeeze page to add them to your list, then send them CPA offers? Or will the same rabid people from CL that would complain if you sent them direct to the CPA offer just get on your list, see who you're promoting and contact them anyway?

I just do not see a way around CL people notifying your CPA network. Some people have nothing better to do, I guess
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Yes they can track and its not allowed.

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So, can someone give me a clue, pretty please? I was burned badly by stupidity in direct CL to CPA.

What can you do between CL and CPA so that you are playing by the rules? Can you send CL to a squeeze page to add them to your list, then send them CPA offers? Or will the same rabid people from CL that would complain if you sent them direct to the CPA offer just get on your list, see who you're promoting and contact them anyway?

I just do not see a way around CL people notifying your CPA network. Some people have nothing better to do, I guess


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Yea Direct to an offer is a No No. I had great success because I chose my offers carefully and tailored them specific to what a person was posting about. When I responded I talk in a personal voice and merely suggest my own web property/resource where they will definitely pick up some good tips and "coincidentally" will see my offers.

I have actually gotten thanked that way!

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Just wanted to chime in on this...

craigslist to an offer = bad, don't do it however craigslist to your autoresponder (aweber) = email traffic and is totally acceptable since you provided your aff links via email.

Also, just to note, I read this whole thread and the dude that was complaining about bad language that wasn't even spelled out, that is silly. This is business, gotta have a thicker skin that that my friend.

I can honestly say craigslist is not dead as far as cpa goes, you just have to be smart about the structure and the angle that you present. It is getting harder, that is for sure. I usually post in all the major cities as well as reply to people who posted under certain search kw's.
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Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

Thanks for your help!!
It's actually depends on the offer... if the offer allow email then do it..
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Some networks do not allow any type of CL advertising including emailing, so just be aware of their policies before you do it.

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stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings

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