No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now!

MainStreetMarketing · 05-26-2009, 03:43 PM

Google calls it Geotargeting. I believe it's now built into the 'new' Adwords control panel (which I currently hate)so you can *ahem* encourage folks to believe that others in their own hometown are doing fill-in-the-blank.

It is shocking the first time you see something like 'Would the people in Seattle enjoy seeing you with WHITER TEETH!?" or some such...I'm over it now.

It's funny to see a geotargeted ad when you're using a proxy come up as 'would the people in Abu-Dabi enjoy seeing you with WHITER TEETH."

MainStreetMarketing · 05-26-2009, 03:52 PM

A friend of mine says that offers like this are what $25 pre-paid debit cards are for. The $2 gets charged, but if it turns out to be BS it's what he calls a 'self-extinguishing' account. He loves those As Seen On TV, just-pay-shipping offers. Hasn't lost much weight, though...

DISCLAIMER: I HAVE NO IDEA IF IT IS ILLEGAL, IMMORAL, OR FATTENING TO USE PREPAID DEBIT CARDS IN THIS FASHION.

Further, I am not a lawyer and do not play on one TV or in this forum. Most of the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott

This sounds like the scam - and it IS a scam - these folks are complaining about.
Make Google Cash Complaints - I want to stop this program

The gist of it is, you get a CD for the cost of shipping, usually just $1 or $2, but then you get charged $70-$80. 7 days later, and then $70 or $80 every month thereafter. Often there is no way to cancel, because they don't answer the phone or respond to emails, so they keep charging you every month. Sometimes they require you to download a form you must mail in, in order to cancel, but they don't respond to your requests for the link to the download page.

Also, it says specifically in their TOS that you must request a refund within 7 days or you don't get one.

It's totally a scam.

Elliott

zerofill · 06-12-2009, 11:38 PM

You guys do realize that a lot of those (flogs) are actually created by the CPA companies right?
A lot of the landing pages that CPA offers go to... are created by the CPA networks... Some of the larger ones have their own design team that make those. They even split test them and send your links to different pages without you even knowing it to see which landing pages convert the best.

As far as Forced continuity...it is everywhere and it is old as the hills. It will continue to be everywhere... and Geo targeting is old as the hills.

Aaron Chandler · 06-15-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerofill

You guys do realize that a lot of those (flogs) are actually created by the CPA companies right?
A lot of the landing pages that CPA offers go to... are created by the CPA networks... Some of the larger ones have their own design team that make those. They even split test them and send your links to different pages without you even knowing it to see which landing pages convert the best.

As far as Forced continuity...it is everywhere and it is old as the hills. It will continue to be everywhere... and Geo targeting is old as the hills.

You are right Zero - continuity programs are what they are and it's how a lot of these offers are able to work for the advertiser and convert for the affiliate. Although Flogs are coming under scrutiny of late, and sometimes may cross the line in trying to make people convert, unless the advertisers or the networks expressly forbid it, publishers will continue to use them as a way to drive traffic to offers.

KentuckyJeff · 06-26-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finch

CPA networks don't frown upon this type of promotion at all. They encourage it.

Most affiliate managers I've worked with on these kind of promotions have offered great advice about covering the legal issues. If you know your disclaimers and your legal disclosures, you should be fine.

As for checking up on a product before you promote it...give me a break.

When was the last time you "got laid tonight" from a CPA signup? Yeah, exactly.

It's down to the affiliate networks to approve the legitimacy of an offer before it gets accepted on to the network. I'm not gonna waste my time popping Acai bills and tipping the scales before I get the moral satisfaction that I'm allowed to make money from a bunch of naive idiots.

The flog is, and will remain, one of the best methods of promoting CPA.

Unfortunately, there's too many people trying to make easy money "from a bunch of naive idiots."

I'm glad I was raised better than that.

I bet your parents must be proud.

Lie about having a better mouse trap and the world will beat a path to your door.

Robin L. · 06-26-2009, 08:23 PM

Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint.

I just wanted to point out that,.. In Real Estate, you can not deceive or withold information on any part of the transaction. There are federal laws, and State laws, and also there are very strict laws in advertising. Many people don't know that even if you are selling something that belongs to you, you are bound by the same laws and subject to the same penalties. When you are licensed by your state, they are just more strict w/ you. We can't even put riders on our ads like "MUST SEE" because it is discriminating against the blind..( even though your first thought is.. "well if they can't see it, how would they read it?" but that is how it is. The only reason I bring this up is because CPA Networks are set up EXACTLY like the Broker of Records and RE licesensee's.
Even though I agree with what you said greenovni. I think this Kevin person is smarter that anyone is giving him credit for..(NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE PLEASE) BUT .. look how much "traffic" he got on his sites just from us looking them up and trying to find his sites?

iwanttomakemoney · 06-28-2009, 10:14 PM

It's a flog. CPA companies are not against this whatsoever. In fact, my AM at one of the biggest CPA networks recently suggested using a flog to promote a new offer of this kind.

embrown · 06-28-2009, 10:57 PM

I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see.

Maybe I'm just a natural skeptic, but sometimes I really find it hard to believe any of those photo of checks. I don't believe people's screen shots of Clickbank or Paypal - especially after I found the javascript code that makes it soooo easy to look like you are making 1000s a day. Videos, of you logging in an viewing your account are a little bit better, but I'm sure someone has figured out a way to fake that too.

Oh, and don't get me started on testimonials. I usually don't even believe those. They seem a little bit better if they have a valid website URL attached. I was surfing through a PLR Membership site I'm trying out and found a testimonial script that is supposed to give real sounding and varied testimonials. Wow, just wow.

GeorgR. · 06-29-2009, 12:13 AM

i am on forums where people CLAIM that the CPA programs themselves are NOT holy people either <--- in fact, from what i read, some CPA companies (respective their vendors) are actually the biggest fraudsters of all. Keyword: Shaving, stealing keywords from affiliates, suspending affiliates and then use their keywords...things like that.

It's all a big money game and everyone will take what they can if there's an opportunity.

checks being faked? Oh my...this is very old. But doesnt change the fact that some affiliates DO make insane amounts of money.

newbyr · 06-29-2009, 10:19 PM

looks like the site has been taken down. Wonder what happened there?

linguistics · 07-19-2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin L.

Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint.

I just wanted to point out that,.. In Real Estate, you can not deceive or withold information on any part of the transaction. There are federal laws, and State laws, and also there are very strict laws in advertising. Many people don't know that even if you are selling something that belongs to you, you are bound by the same laws and subject to the same penalties. When you are licensed by your state, they are just more strict w/ you. We can't even put riders on our ads like "MUST SEE" because it is discriminating against the blind..( even though your first thought is.. "well if they can't see it, how would they read it?" but that is how it is. The only reason I bring this up is because CPA Networks are set up EXACTLY like the Broker of Records and RE licesensee's.
Even though I agree with what you said greenovni. I think this Kevin person is smarter that anyone is giving him credit for..(NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE PLEASE) BUT .. look how much "traffic" he got on his sites just from us looking them up and trying to find his sites?

What state do you live in where the words "must see" cannot be included? We've been working in real estate for over 15 years and have NEVER been approached to remove rider words such as "must see"

linguistics · 07-19-2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by embrown

I don't believe anything I hear and only half of what I see.

Maybe I'm just a natural skeptic, but sometimes I really find it hard to believe any of those photo of checks. I don't believe people's screen shots of Clickbank or Paypal - especially after I found the javascript code that makes it soooo easy to look like you are making 1000s a day. Videos, of you logging in an viewing your account are a little bit better, but I'm sure someone has figured out a way to fake that too.

Oh, and don't get me started on testimonials. I usually don't even believe those. They seem a little bit better if they have a valid website URL attached. I was surfing through a PLR Membership site I'm trying out and found a testimonial script that is supposed to give real sounding and varied testimonials. Wow, just wow.

The only problem that I see in what you wrote is that the GUY/Lady, is MAKING 1,000's a day doing what they are doing. They just aren't making it the way they are SAYING that they are making it, so, in retrospect, if they had only been truthful in saying how they were actually making money then it really cannot be deemed a scam. So, if I say that you are going to sign up and pay 1.94 for a cd, and we are going to hook you for 50bucks with a cancellation opportunity which has to be done in 7 days or less, plus, don't wait until the last minute to call due to a very high call volume and your call for cancellation may not be answered then there isn't much anyone can do if you agree to those terms.

I bet a day off of my life that there would still be countless numbers of people still signing up for this thing...it's just the way the world works.

Have you ever told someone not to go somewhere or do not drive fast? What do they do? They go to that unsafe place(club, party, etc) and what do they do when they get on the road? They do 90 to nothing...how many people we tell not to drink and drive because of the deadly dangers that exist? Yet, hundreds of thousands still do it...it's the world, it's how it works.

I can throw up a landing page now, tell people that I am going to do exactly what this guy kevin didn't tell everyone, and i BET I make tons of cash still, even if i admit what I am going to do.

ChrisBa · 07-19-2009, 11:02 AM

yeah there is some shady stuff out there..

Drikus Botha · 07-20-2009, 03:16 PM

I've enjoyed seeing justice at work. Thanks guys.

blillard · 07-20-2009, 06:15 PM

You ever heared of the term "You have to get it how you live"? I'm saying that waht these people are doing is right but sometime when things hit the fan and your shorties have to eat what would you do starve?

Yeah these flogs are enethical but think about the bogus review pages that soo many affiliates put up about clickbanks offers, are these wrong as well? You never read about a bad clickbank product on review pages. Not even review pages but pre-sale pages these are the exact same things but for CPA offers.

AffiliateMax · 07-20-2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blillard

Yeah these flogs are enethical but think about the bogus review pages that soo many affiliates put up about clickbanks offers, are these wrong as well? You never read about a bad clickbank product on review pages. Not even review pages but pre-sale pages these are the exact same things but for CPA offers.

At least with clickbank it's usually a one off charge (and clearly stated if it is not), you can get a refund within 60 days if you are not satisfied and you are not signed up to various monthly charges which you were unaware of and that are almost impossible to cancel resulting in you having to get a new credit card in order to stop the charges. There are plenty of crap products on clickbank (and there are plenty of good quality products and services to promote as an affiliate outside of the clickbank and cpa world). What these flogs are promoting are basically scams.

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chemo38 · 07-20-2009, 09:10 PM

A Flog....I love it!!

Gary Grosschadl · 06-04-2010, 07:28 PM

I think most CPA trial offers are a scam.
Note I cannot post links so you have to search the terms.

Acai berry is a good example.

Here is a more recent example. Ritoban is plugging his prelaunch right now for "Profit Instruments". It looks like an intriguing model but his one of his flagship examples is a CPA offer that is just another free trial scam.

Here is a post I left on his prelaunch blog, it has not been moderated (pulled) yet. Yes I was definitely in a vent mood.
Why do so few intelligent marketers turn a blind eye to CPA scams?
__________________________________________________ ________
Yes a good business model but how ethical is it? i.e. CPA offers
Someone should mention "the dirty side" of many CPA offers.
Out of good conscience I won't touch them because of the widespread scams. Why is that so many intelligent gurus conveniently "look the other way" as long as they make a good buck.
Unfortunately Rituban's flagship green tea is a prime example.
Sure he is making a fortune on this offer and the crooks behind it but what about all the trusting consumers that are being ripped off with multiple charges to their account after signing up for 4.95 trial offer?
See for yourself - on the first page of google results, 5th link down is a link for many, many complaints of ripped off consumers.

search - Life Cleanse & Cho Yung Tea Complaints - Internet Fraud

Another big question is why do all the big players like google and the FTC let these guys get away with this?
It's probably buried in their terms and conditions, the fine print written by sleazy lawyers working for these guys.
I would like to make an honest buck, not rip-off my fellow man.
Why does no one talk about the scammy side of the affiliate business?
There are good products out there but you have to do at least a tiny bit of research. Stay away from CPA offers is my call. Don't promote garbage is another. Stop ripping off your fellow man is a third.
Thank you for letting me vent.

sloanjim · 06-05-2010, 03:47 AM

Finch you sound like a politician caught taking massive expense claims. All they kept saying was "I did nothing illeagal. so what's the problem" While the public no it was wrong and want to hang the f***'ers.

VedoMedia · 06-05-2010, 04:28 PM

seems the site is offline..

dblgdee · 06-05-2010, 04:35 PM

BUSTED!!!
@Danhughes
You must be getting PAID with the detector working overtime!!

cadillac48 · 09-03-2010, 03:27 PM

I thought all you guys knew that these "make money on google sites are scams".

Yes, it is no coincidence that everytime everyone sees the guy is from their hometown! Yes, they are using a script that picks up the ip of your computer. They do that for psychological reasons. they want someone to say to themselves something like, "gee, that guy is from here, if he can do it, so can I, I'm gonna try it also!"

Yes, $1.97 shipping, makes no mention of the $97 or whatever a month unless you make your way to the terms and conditions page which they figure most people are too stupid to do and will assume it just costs $1.97, and yes, it is almost impossible to get them to cancel the charge. Tip: if you get a company that won't cancel a charge, l just tell your bank you lost your credit card and you will get a new number and the charges will stop. Oof course, all auto charges will stop! You have to go back to all the companies that auto charged the stopped card and give them the new number. Yes, it may cause some inconvenience. But, if that is the only way to get rid of the unwarranted charges.......

Kenster · 09-03-2010, 06:03 PM

At the end of the day, there is a lot of crap that goes on in the industry but we as marketers get to pick and decide what and how we want to promote.

There is a spectrum of purely whitehat and then the dark side of marketing. Marketing of all kinds (corporate, internet, everything) falls somewhere in the middle most of the times. Pick where you are comfortable promoting and go from there. I stay in the white side, but thats just me.

Its just a shame that others are tainting the industry.

~ken

kishapeach70 · 09-03-2010, 09:59 PM

I didn't do my research and ordered this program after I was laid off. It was definitely not as described, I agree "Buyer beware!" Keep your money and look for a better opportunity

jeffrey73 · 09-04-2010, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Vercetti

Well I dont really see what all the fuss is about this site. It is simply a fake blog or fake review site, which are very very commonly used in promoting CPA offers such as the "Make Money with Google!" stuff, government grants, etc.
Yes, the stories, pictures and testimonials are probably fake, but these tactics are also widely used to promote ebooks like the ones on Clickbank, with salespages full off hype and stock photos of Ferrari cars, yachts, mansions that the author claims are his, and that he makes $1000000 a day "putting links on Google".

Exactly. I fully agree. And what the person is doing is pure blackhat, exactly what a million other marketers do on a daily basis.

tgglenn · 09-06-2010, 08:43 AM

How about "unemployed...(insert your favorite humble job description here) miraculously met an internet marketer in an alley and the secret to $1Million a day was revealed to them??? I've read so many of them, they have become a source of amusement. And they are from some of the "top marketers" in the business. I've learned to filter them out, but they are all still very tempting because they trigger some emotional response!! Just my 2 cents.

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Robin L. Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 46 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! Before people come and flame me for the way he is marketing, please think of all the real world places this happens at. Real estate, mechanics, car salesmen and the ton of other professions that follow the same exact blueprint. I just wanted to point out that,.. In Real Estate, you can not deceive or withold information on any part of the transaction. There are federal laws, and State laws, and also there are very strict laws in advertising. Many people don't know that even if you are selling something that belongs to you, you are bound by the same laws and subject to the same penalties. When you are licensed by your state, they are just more strict w/ you. We can't even put riders on our ads like "MUST SEE" because it is discriminating against the blind..( even though your first thought is.. "well if they can't see it, how would they read it?" but that is how it is. The only reason I bring this up is because CPA Networks are set up EXACTLY like the Broker of Records and RE licesensee's. Even though I agree with what you said greenovni. I think this Kevin person is smarter that anyone is giving him credit for..(NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE PLEASE) BUT .. look how much "traffic" he got on his sites just from us looking them up and trying to find his sites?

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Gary Grosschadl Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 13 Posts Social Networking	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I think most CPA trial offers are a scam. Note I cannot post links so you have to search the terms. Acai berry is a good example. Here is a more recent example. Ritoban is plugging his prelaunch right now for "Profit Instruments". It looks like an intriguing model but his one of his flagship examples is a CPA offer that is just another free trial scam. Here is a post I left on his prelaunch blog, it has not been moderated (pulled) yet. Yes I was definitely in a vent mood. Why do so few intelligent marketers turn a blind eye to CPA scams? __________________________________________________ ________ Yes a good business model but how ethical is it? i.e. CPA offers Someone should mention "the dirty side" of many CPA offers. Out of good conscience I won't touch them because of the widespread scams. Why is that so many intelligent gurus conveniently "look the other way" as long as they make a good buck. Unfortunately Rituban's flagship green tea is a prime example. Sure he is making a fortune on this offer and the crooks behind it but what about all the trusting consumers that are being ripped off with multiple charges to their account after signing up for 4.95 trial offer? See for yourself - on the first page of google results, 5th link down is a link for many, many complaints of ripped off consumers. search - Life Cleanse & Cho Yung Tea Complaints - Internet Fraud Another big question is why do all the big players like google and the FTC let these guys get away with this? It's probably buried in their terms and conditions, the fine print written by sleazy lawyers working for these guys. I would like to make an honest buck, not rip-off my fellow man. Why does no one talk about the scammy side of the affiliate business? There are good products out there but you have to do at least a tiny bit of research. Stay away from CPA offers is my call. Don't promote garbage is another. Stop ripping off your fellow man is a third. Thank you for letting me vent.
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06-05-2010, 03:47 AM	#119
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09-03-2010, 09:59 PM	#124
kishapeach70 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! I didn't do my research and ordered this program after I was laid off. It was definitely not as described, I agree "Buyer beware!" Keep your money and look for a better opportunity

09-06-2010, 08:43 AM	#126
tgglenn Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: ALABAMA Posts: 125 Thanks: 7 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: No Wonder CPA Co's Reject So many Of Us Now! How about "unemployed...(insert your favorite humble job description here) miraculously met an internet marketer in an alley and the secret to $1Million a day was revealed to them??? I've read so many of them, they have become a source of amusement. And they are from some of the "top marketers" in the business. I've learned to filter them out, but they are all still very tempting because they trigger some emotional response!! Just my 2 cents.