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Old 06-02-2009, 09:37 AM   #51
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well as for clickbank, i managed it to rank some sites #1, and for other CB products i do have Squidoo lenses and similar. My clickbank earnings now are finally 100% PPC free - its all from organic SEO. Now i am using PPC solely for CPA. I dont know why....i could've only dreamed of $0.07 bids for your avg. clickbank products - but with CPA i have no problem finding such keywords.

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zip and email submit campaigns will soon be dead.

too much lead shaving, and too much complaining customers.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:17 AM   #53
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Hi George,
What keyword tool or method are you using to find these high volume low comp keywords?
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:42 AM   #54
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Google adwords keywordtool, then double checking with google preview tool to see the real US ads up for a keyword. (Since i am in EU)
If i feel up to it i can also double-check potential good KW with Market Samurai. But i keep at the source, Google.

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Thanks for sharing details GeorgR. Not alot of that these days. Hats off!

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Being aware that you are a popular IMer on this forum and own a few WSOs; please, can you in your very honest opinion, let us know what CPA offers and strategies can bring a complete newbee to a mark of at the least $200/day in max of two weeks.

Also, what averagely good networks are easier to get into and what are the criteria for acceptance.


Are you trying to master CPA in a short time or are you trying to make money in a short time? Keep in mind Making that money with CPA is certainly doable but you do not get paid instantly.

You can create your own product in that time as well and do quite well if you offer good value.



If you have some money to invest you can certainly have success lightning fast with CPA but the free methods take some time to set up but still work great.

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Old 06-03-2009, 10:22 PM   #57
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Ok guys, here a little update:

I am VERY busy the last few days and i am making sites left and right for whatever offer i see and think could be good. Also got accepted into MaxBounty.

Right now i am in the phase where i make sites with offers and i making adwords ads, testing on content network as well as on search network.

I am already making money with the CPA offers - at least $50+ day and this *before* i had many other offers and sites up which i just finished literally minutes ago. (Of course i expect MUCH higher earnings For statements like "i make XYZ/day" its too early since i need to observe my earnings over a longer period - and i need the adwords campaigns let "settle".

The point is i am ALREADY making money, as opposed when i remember back when i started with clickbank. It took me an eternity until i got my first clickbank earnings in comparison.

CONVERSION RATES:

I have anything from 28%, 25%, 25%, 10% and a bunch of 8%. But as said, its a little too early since those are VERY early statistics based on very few clicks the last couple of days.

I also got some banners on high traffic sites - one was just activated, will monitor.
Some other banners i slapped on my own sites - but my own sites have rather low traffic.

Tips:

I didnt use Xsite Pro in an eternity...i kind of grew out of it. But for making QUICK landing pages with all the requirements its GREAT. Xsite is great for CPA landing pages! I made one site for an offer...and now i can re-use this template and make sites even quicker for new offers.

Google Trends: Hint, Hint...if you see a CPA offer tied to product which you see ALSO in Google trends...AND you get cheap clicks: WINNER <---

Go on fads/trends hunt..and check your offers whether they somehow relate....this is a gold mine!!

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Thks for open this thread, I am learning and implementing some of the responses posted above. GREAT info...
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:07 AM   #59
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Looking forward to seeing more data on your results, GeorgR!
me too I am all hyped in the morning getting up and checking my stats.

I have not had one conversion with MaxBounty (and only very little clicks) which is odd. But Neverblue stats shoot up and earnings come in, even for "difficult" stuff like sales for weight loss products, in very competive niche.

I also managed it to get some ads i the financial sector to display on content network for pretty low $0.20.....this is a niche where you would need to bid $2+ (at least) on search. So i might pick more offers in that niche. I wouldn't touch that niche on search with a long pole otherwise

Oh..and by the way, the financial/debt related ads...its the first time i do "direct linking"...they show up with me direct linking. I didnt even bother making a landing page...

But i think for the next round of ads/offers i just make more sites with xsite pro...

By the way...if you want a REALLY good book on the topic get "ppc ninja" <--

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Maybe because i just started w/ MB..so the comparison might not be fair. I am making ads as we speak, some using MaxBounty CPA and others Neverblue. Its also really a matter of luck and trial and error.
Some keywords turn out duds....and some unexpectedly perform great.

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first,

i am sitting on something...my HIGHEST CPC right now is $0.10

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Would that be search or content network ads?
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I don't doubt those results but of 333 leads, how many did you get paid for? You will still be in profit I'm sure but less than what you showed.
For those newbies who want to use PPC for this, my advice is...don't! Learn as much as you can first.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

Still learning.
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I don't doubt those results but of 333 leads, how many did you get paid for? You will still be in profit I'm sure but less than what you showed.
For those newbies who want to use PPC for this, my advice is...don't! Learn as much as you can first.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

I agree Noel!

I still get free traffic to $10 sign ups with pretty good conversions. Takes awhile to set up but worth it with no stress and no 24 hour monitoring.

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great thread so far. Looking to see the overall ctr and roi
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Congrats on the results

Now find more campaigns with simular results.
Just think if you can get 10 campaigns running at the same results?

Keep up the good work.
Once I have found a profitable campaign, depending on serveral things I outsource the managment of the campaign. Giving me time to research more offers.

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So, little update again.

I promoted some supposedly VERY high converting and high EPC and high paying PAY PER SALE product (VERY competive niche!)...and i actually MADE a few sales, but overall the cost of Ads for this are too high and the conversions for THIS particular one are not that great as i expected. So i stopped the ads running for this.

The best success right now i have with something where i didn't expect it AT ALL: this is a niche with A LOT keywords in an area, say "wallpapers, pictures, smileys, screensavers" kind of of area - where i pay €0.07-€0.09/Click and get VERY good search volume and CTR on variations of the keywords. My landing page for this is an utter joke too..sometimes i can just shake my head...but it goes pretty well.

I will try getting even more traffic to this by finding even more keywords.

As for tips: I think that Derek in the other thread said it already also, but there is only one way to find out: Start making pages and offers, and OBSERVE. You can have 10 campaigns, 8 of them duds....one "ok", one "good".

I think its impossible to say "promote XYZ it will make you rich!"..it really, really depends. You need to test yourself and weed out duds.

I also got a call by COPEAC, i applied...so i guess i will soon be with copeac also.

By the way..i heard SO MANY bad things about hydra that i am not fond of getting accepted with hydra...i think i might decline them even. They didnt call back..but i dont care.

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I agree Noel!

I still get free traffic to $10 sign ups with pretty good conversions. Takes awhile to set up but worth it with no stress and no 24 hour monitoring.
whats those $10 sign-ups? Financial, Real estate, Debt??? Horrible, horrible for PPC ;/

I have some niches where i get $2.50 per sign-up, this sounds LOW...but then i only pay $0.07/click and get pretty good volume Its all in the math.

So..$0.07/Click --payout--> $2.50 equals $0.28/click --payout--> $10

In other words: I could be more profitable running $0.07/CPC and low $2.50 payout as opposed to gettin a $10 payout but in a horrible niche where you pay MORE than $0.28/click.

I can tell you that in debt/insurance/credit/real estate where those $10 offers are its nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get $0.28/click EVEN ON CONTENT network.

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