TE2

Hey Chucky,

Yes, there is more to it but I didn't want to write a book on it. My quick reply started getting longer and I just wanted to provide enough that people would see they are different.

Actually, URL targeting is used in PPC as well. Some refer to it as the Alexa technique. Basically, find URL's with lots of traffic for your topic and use the URL's as keywords in your adword "Search" campaign. You can also use "Placement Targeting" to specify where your ads are displayed.

Mostly accurate... as a visitor can load that page over and over again, each time they do, that is one impression. ie, A visitor clicking from page to page or simply refreshing could have your ad displayed multiple times.

And there is more to it (and that I am not revealing).

I'll leave you a hint - it is all about targeting.

Regards,

John

Marian Berghes

From what I remember you can specify that your ad will be shown to the same user only once every 12 or 24 hours, right?

At least for 1 network, I think media traffic.

"Nothing in this world that's worth having comes easy..."

lherbal

Yes, that is correct.

TE2

It varies from network to network. The best ones like MT allow you to select the frequency and give you several choices; typically in a drop-down menu.

MT offers:
1/12
1/24
1/48
1/72
1 Week
1 month

Regards,

John

Pieter

Hi I'm doing forex

Art Turner

I ran my first campaigns with Clicksor last week...each one used a few thousand exact match keywords and no URL/category views. Thousands of impressions, no conversions. I can't comment on whether it's a quality of traffic issue, since I haven't run anywhere else. I have a campaign set up at adonnetwork, but can't seem to contact anyone there to get it approved and running

The campaigns were a trial offer on a health product, credit score improvement offer and a ringtone offer. If there's a good niche for Clicksor traffic, I haven't zeroed in on it yet.

But I have to say that Clicksor is great to work with and easy to contact.

Chucky

Thanks a lot John, hmmm....it's all about targeting....and you're probably talking about something more than just targeting URLs I presume.
Us 'relative newbies' will keep thinking about it.
Cheers!
Chucky

Chucky

Unfortunately MT has no exact match. I talked (chatted) with Hugo (the very helpful online live help) and he said they don't have it. What they have is something like a broad match for keywords although for URLs they do have four options.

What I ended up doing with Clicksor was to identify those sites that bring you tons of traffic and 'eliminate' them from your campaign. That did the trick for me as far as burning up my daily budget, but it didn't fix the problem of 'no conversions' :-)
Chucky

Aj

Hi,
Just a quick question regarding the display of our ads, does anyone know of any tools where we can preview our ad to confirm it's ok to run the ad, i.e. we could then confirm that view of the headline or signup box etc. was good to go before we waste money...

Arthur

Chucky

You can do that in MT, but not in Clicksor. Don't know about the others!
Chucky

Buhry

I am wondering how I track and cloak my traffic with cpv. Currently I am using mediatraffic. I tried to set up prosper 202 but I am having some problems - could that be because I have installed it on a hostgator account?

Also, chucky, where in mediatraffic can you preview your ads?

redicelander

Buhry, I think tracking systems can be hard to figure out sometimes if you're new to it. I think if you use hostgator, it should be fine if you install correctly. But, hmm, I'm not an expert at this so I'd like to help you. However, to help someone who could help would need much more information about what your problems are, so yeah. Perhaps you could PM somebody or ask them to PM you if they want to help you with tracking. Again, I'm not sure I could.

Buhry

Well, to be a bit more specific my problem is this. I assume that I am supposed to use the tracking 202 affiliate conversion tracking software? Anyway, when I click on the tracking 202 app everything looks to be working, but then when I click on ''setup'' I get the following error message: ''Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/buhry/public_html/topfinancenow.com/tracking202/setup/ppc_accounts.php on line 99''.

So I don't get it set up. I read somewhere that there had been some problems with using prosper 202 on hostgator unless you had a dedicated server. But then again I managed to install it on my domain so that might not be the problem.

redicelander

Ya, uh, I don't know, really. It could be a problem with your tables, but I don't know exactly what. Anybody?

Chucky

You go to "Edit Existing Campaigns" --> select the campaign you want --> scroll down to 'Current destinations' --> on the right hand side, next to your URL there are two buttons called ROI and modify --> click the modify button --> then that area expands to show 'advanced features' --> you'll see a button called test it --> Press it and that's it!

Hope that was helpful!
Good luck!
Chucky

Jay White

Dipping my toes in the CPA and PPV waters for the first time with an email submit being run through Media Traffic...

Using URL targeting and after about 600 views over the weekend I'm pretty much breaking even. I'll probably let it go to 1000 before deciding whether to tweak or dump.

Did take a while to start getting views. Weird.

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netbizer

I guess those who are making a killing with this method are keeping a heavily guarded secret. by the way where is all the money paid the the affiliates coming from?

Aj

Hi Chucky,
Many thanks for the usefull info, something else I've missed in MT...

Arthur

Amfire

What kind of offers/Niches have a better luck with PPV?

Marian Berghes

Any offer can do, just because for example Traffic Vance gets is users from games downloads that doesn't mean you can't sell diet offers.

What most people forget is that: although the son/daughter might have downloaded the game, you have a fairly large chance that the Dad/Mom will use that computer also, even for only a couple of hours a day.

"Nothing in this world that's worth having comes easy..."

TE2

Jay,

Tweak it!

Your next step should be...

- eliminate the URL's that are bringing traffic but no conversions

Regards,

John

TE2

Congratulations - we have a winner!

Someone finally asked the right question.

So here's the answer:

• Free Downloads
• Free Stuff (iPods, Giftcards, etc...)
• Ringtones
• Movies
• Gambling
• Online Games
• Debt Consolidation
• Dating

Regards,

John

Clicksor_CS

Referring to lherbal's post, Clicksor's Popunder traffic is different than Google Adsense. First of all, we have different group of publishers than Google. Secondly, our ad is displaying on a Full page Popunder basis instead of banners.

We have recieved feedbacks from Advertisers that our content targeted traffic by websites are converting better for them than adware traffic due to the fact that adware traffic contains repeated visitors and unauthorized ads on sites.

The targeting of your ad campaigns with us plays an important role with our contextual targeted campaign. Therefore, we welcome you to contact us for recommendations and suggestions. I believe that you have received a fast response from your experience in contacting us.

If you would like to get further information or concerns on our service, please feel free to contact your Account Manager. An Account is free to signup at Clicksor and a dedicated account manager will be assigned.

Best Regards,

Clicksor Customer Support

Clicksor_CS

Hi Chunky,

I have received your PM; however, the forum has limited my reply to PM until I have posted 15 or more posts. Can you please direct your questions to sales at clicksor.com or your dedicated Account Manager?

Thanks,

Clicksor Customer Support

PPC-Coach

As for tracking cpv traffic, be careful if you're on a shared hosting plan. You pretty much need a dedicated server to track cpv since there is so much traffic going through your tracking link. (If you're doing even medium volume). You'll get kicked off a shared hosting plan pretty quickly if you take down their server a couple times.

Buhry

Hm, that kinda blows. Hey ppc-coach, could you check your pm inbox?

Also, does anyone know how long it takes before a completed lead is registered with mediatraffic or the cpa networks?

I've gotten 600 views for a campaign I launched about 4 hours ago.. But mediatraffic tells me my ROI is 0.00, and ads4dough too... So any hope for me here, or do I need to change my tactics? I am promoting a google biz opp. offer by the way.

I used an url-scraper to gather a lot of URLs and also added some relevant 3 word keywords... I am using a pop up, not a pop under.

TE2

See my post #73 above...

Also, try tightening up your targeting.

Regards,

John

Buhry

I saw it, thanks. I now have 1140 views but still 0 roi. Do I need to do something other than set up the campaign for mediatraffic to track my ROI? Also, does anyone know how long it takes for completed leads to register with the cpa network? I'm very new to this and haven't made my first conversion yet wich is why I'm throwing all these noob-questions around.

I also can't figure out how to track :/

Saj Gupta

Most of the completed leads should register within the same day.

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Chucky

If I were you, I would take out those 3 word keywords. I suspect I will see a dramatic reduction in the quantity of traffic. Besides, MT only has broad match, so I suspect you're drawing all kinds of non-targeted traffic with those kw.

I'm talking with the experience of only 2 campaigns, but you have nothing to lose by doing it.
Chucky

Chucky

Thanks for your reply.

AND A VERY BIG THANK YOU FOR calling me CHUNKY :-) I'm very skinny :-)

Buhry

Thanks for that Chucky.. Didn't now about the broad match thing. That's some uesful information. Hey do you know if I can use mediatraffics pixel tracking to track my keywords?

sindyjk

John, how much traffics of URL keyword is said not converting, so must be deleted? according with payout?

thanks

sindy

TE2

Simple - Delete the ones that aren't profitable.

When I start a campaign, I will spend up to twice the offer's payout to test it.

Say I have an offer that pays $10, then I will spend $20 testing it.

If no conversions, then I will stop that campaign.

If I made a sale(s) then I will analyze the keywords/URL's/categories for profitability and delete the ones that didn't convert.

Again, my rule of thumb is double the payout. Other people spend more and some less on their testing. Go with what you are comfortable with but make sure you get enough data to make a good decision. I recommend at least double the payout for your test spend.

Regards,

John

sindyjk

John and Chunky,

Which better pop-up or pop-under?
Only url keywords that you bid? How can i get url keywords for outside US traffics? now i only use alexa and quantcast.

have you tried promote clickbank products with ppv? convert or not? now i promote clickbank products (game and learning foreign language), i got lot traffics but still no conversion. May be i will follow your suggestion, today 1 lost 1x payout.



thanks,

sindy

Buhry

When you guys start new campaigns, how many URL's do youy bid on?

TE2

Pop-up (its actually a "pop-over" which is a fully functional window which cannot be blocked)

I tend to bid on URL's mostly so that I can really target my campaigns. I use a tool called a URL scraper to find targets. Fellow warrior Robert Matthew sells the one I use. Look for his WSO for "urlkeywordz".

I have never tried PPV > Clickbank

sindyjk

min 50 URL's, but usually 100+ URL's.

sindy

PPC-Coach

I don't think clickbank likes cpv traffic. It inflates their epcs and that's the real reason most networks won't take it.



(for the guys who have pm'd me, it's hard to get back to you because I have to wait 5 minutes between pms, this means 6 pm responses takes half an hour.)

redicelander

Buhry, how is mediatraffic going to know your conversions? YOU have to tell THEM what your conversions are if you want to set up their ROI tracking. They do not have access to your CPA network information. How would they unless you tell them?

azizali88

I am really desperate to make PPV work
I joined Adon Zango direct CPV and Media traffic

know basic stuff but i really need a coach or mentor to guide me!

I am thinking of someone from here in the forum to help me or get PPV coach,

webatomic

I'm wondering what other people use as testing strategies. Right now I have about 10 different offers running with a $10 per day cap on each. I don't want to throw money away, but I also want to be sure I'm giving these offers a sufficient chance to succeed. Thoughts?

webatomic

So once you've tweaked the ones that convert to hopefully improve your ROI, do you then run the newly tweaked converting campaigns for another "double the payout" round? I ask because I have campaigns that are converting, but still with a negative ROI and if I continue on this track I will eventually go broke

TE2

If they are not positive, then I try to get a break even on the next go around. If it keeps improving then I keep running and tweaking.

At some point it will be obvious whether you should keep going or not.

Regards,

John

RedMatrix

Great thread! Does anyone have a comprehensive list of PPV/CPV networks? Do they lower your CPM if your conversions rise? (Instead of $3 per thousand, maybe $2.50 ..etc)

Thanks for your time. I already have some ideas for double blind referrals. Let's see if they pan out.

~Dave

webatomic

I'm starting to get some of those email and zip submits to convert. I'd love to know what it takes to get someone to actually pull out a credit card though! That seems like a big leap.

pauljeaston

Thanks so much man

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krishnanz

Hai,
Pay per view ads in your site!!, i think its the most attractive offer ever , what about you get paid 0.01$ for each banner display in your site???, amazing right? and the profit will be as dream if u have good traffic to ur site!!. Is their any such programs available??, Yes available!, am lucky with a program that pays exactly what i said!, dont believe me??, No i dont care you believe or not!. I joined the program for free and now it earns me a good monthly dollars..Its an eStore affiliate program. I will tell you only if u really want to participate only, since nobody believes, someone ask me about and when i tell them all about the program, they quit?, i dont know what people are thinking..where u get such an amazing system?? Its free to sign up now since it is new!
Thank you.take care

efrontiers

Hi Krisnanz, can you tell me more about what you have been saying? Is it a publisher offer with a cpv network?

I am fond of creating micro niche sites and they are quite doing great. Super Solano Hair Dryer and Battery Operated Alarm Clock are just a few of my sites.

h2oman23

Findology.com also has a CPV network called CPView. You sign up to Findology and enroll in that program. They also have a PPC search network.