PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend!

Roman8389 · 10-08-2009, 08:15 AM

Kind of a dumb question here, but anyway:

Since CPV is cost per VIEW, do you get charged if the person doesn't actually VIEW the ad? I mean, if the window pops in the task bar and the person doesn't open the window to view it, but instead right-clicks and then chooses Close, does that still count? Does the window loading constitute a "view"?

Or do all CPV ads pop over the window, forcing the person to view them?

Brad

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 08:26 AM

PPV is a killer. I've stopped using PPC a long time ago and I'm not planning on going back to it...not until PPV becomes unprofitable for me which, so far, isn't the case.

$5K a day with PPV isn't hard at all. Once you know how to use it, you start off small then build your way up. People should definitely look into it.

David

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Roman8389

Kind of a dumb question here, but anyway:

Since CPV is cost per VIEW, do you get charged if the person doesn't actually VIEW the ad? I mean, if the window pops in the task bar and the person doesn't open the window to view it, but instead right-clicks and then chooses Close, does that still count? Does the window loading constitute a "view"?

Or do all CPV ads pop over the window, forcing the person to view them?

Brad

Brad...

If the window loads, yes, that does counts as a view. But, keep in mind, this window will be a pop up or pop under that opens in a new browswer or tab.

It can't be blocked and, even though it counts when the window is being loaded, 9 out of 10 times that window won't even be noticed until later on anyway. It's non intrusive, is what I'm trying to say, and the entire offer landing page will be in plain view.

David

TE2 · 10-08-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by h2oman23

Findology.com also has a CPV network called CPView. You sign up to Findology and enroll in that program. They also have a PPC search network.

Also as an FYI, Findology's user interface is the same as DirectCPV's. So if you are using either one of them, you will know what the other one looks and functions like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman8389

Kind of a dumb question here, but anyway:

Since CPV is cost per VIEW, do you get charged if the person doesn't actually VIEW the ad? I mean, if the window pops in the task bar and the person doesn't open the window to view it, but instead right-clicks and then chooses Close, does that still count? Does the window loading constitute a "view"?

Or do all CPV ads pop over the window, forcing the person to view them?

Brad

Yes, it's counted as a view. Every time your page is popped, you will be debited one impression (aka view). It does not matter how fast the user closes it.

Regards,

John

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TE2

Also as an FYI, Findology's user interface is the same as DirectCPV's. So if you are using either one of them, you will know what the other one looks and functions like.

I used to promote DirectCPV. But I've learned that they send a whole lot of junk traffic. Now, I only stick with well knowns... Adon, Media Traffic and Traffic Vance.

Clicksor has NEVER converted for me. But Media Traffic? Man, it's HOT! Traffic Vance converts even faster than them but they don't accept anyone unless you have a referral. (By the way, anyone needing a referral for TV PM me after you've sign up and I'll send them a referral).

But, if you get on Traffic Vance, you HAVE to spend $1k a month or else they won't approve you. Only sign up if you already make good money with PPV on other networks and you're ready to step it up a notch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TE2

Yes, it's counted as a view. Every time your page is popped, you will be debited one impression (aka view). It does not matter how fast the user closes it.

Keep in mind too, that your page will load completely in most cases because it loads in a pop up that doesn't take over your current screen, or a pop under that usually isnt' seen until later on by the visitor.

TimScott · 10-08-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I used to promote DirectCPV. But I've learned that they send a whole lot of junk traffic. Now, I only stick with well knowns... Adon, Media Traffic and Traffic Vance.

Clicksor has NEVER converted for me. But Media Traffic? Man, it's HOT! Traffic Vance converts even faster than them but they don't accept anyone unless you have a referral. (By the way, anyone needing a referral for TV PM me after you've sign up and I'll send them a referral).

But, if you get on Traffic Vance, you HAVE to spend $1k a month or else they won't approve you. Only sign up if you already make good money with PPV on other networks and you're ready to step it up a notch.

Keep in mind too, that your page will load completely in most cases because it loads in a pop up that doesn't take over your current screen, or a pop under that usually isnt' seen until later on by the visitor.

How are you converting in media Traffic, I couldn't barely get anything to convert except email subits, and I lost money on those.

PPV Guru · 10-09-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TimScott

How are you converting in media Traffic, I couldn't barely get anything to convert except email subits, and I lost money on those.

Media Traffic is my number one converter, actually. Well, I lie. Traffic Vance is the best but you'll also pay more per view. If you're not converting it has to be something to do with the method you use to find good keywords or URL's.

TimScott · 10-09-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

Media Traffic is my number one converter, actually. Well, I lie. Traffic Vance is the best but you'll also pay more per view. If you're not converting it has to be something to do with the method you use to find good keywords or URL's.

I used LazerURL to pull targeted URL's from the big 3. Then in media traffic I only targtted domains/document/path and serach queries and I never bid on the root domain.

For ex, I found 3 gift cards offers for walmart, kmart and bestbuy. So I threw them into Prosper202 and rotated them, and I grabbed all the indexed pages of walmart, target, kmart, and best buy for my Keywords. I would spend like 10.00 to make $3.00, and I even targeted the best time of day that these offers converted /per my AM. I mean, was doing anything wrong?

efrontiers · 10-09-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I used to promote DirectCPV. But I've learned that they send a whole lot of junk traffic. Now, I only stick with well knowns... Adon, Media Traffic and Traffic Vance.

Clicksor has NEVER converted for me. But Media Traffic? Man, it's HOT! Traffic Vance converts even faster than them but they don't accept anyone unless you have a referral. (By the way, anyone needing a referral for TV PM me after you've sign up and I'll send them a referral).

But, if you get on Traffic Vance, you HAVE to spend $1k a month or else they won't approve you. Only sign up if you already make good money with PPV on other networks and you're ready to step it up a notch.

Keep in mind too, that your page will load completely in most cases because it loads in a pop up that doesn't take over your current screen, or a pop under that usually isnt' seen until later on by the visitor.

Hey PPV Guru,

Care to create a wso regarding this topic? I can't seem to make it work myself.

PPV Guru · 10-09-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TimScott

I used LazerURL to pull targeted URL's from the big 3. Then in media traffic I only targtted domains/document/path and serach queries and I never bid on the root domain.

For ex, I found 3 gift cards offers for walmart, kmart and bestbuy. So I threw them into Prosper202 and rotated them, and I grabbed all the indexed pages of walmart, target, kmart, and best buy for my Keywords. I would spend like 10.00 to make $3.00, and I even targeted the best time of day that these offers converted /per my AM. I mean, was doing anything wrong?

I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this.

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Originally Posted by efrontiers

Hey PPV Guru,

Care to create a wso regarding this topic? I can't seem to make it work myself.

I'm not really here to post WSO's anymore. But I'll PM you the same 45 minute video link.

TimScott · 10-09-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this.

I'm not really here to post WSO's anymore. But I'll PM you the same 45 minute video link.

Vid was good info, but nothing new that I don't already use for techniques, I do pull url lists based off just keywords as well, but like I said before, I just can't get conversions on anything enough to be profitable

vinlulvie · 10-10-2009, 01:25 AM

Hi PPV Guru,

Is it possible you can pm me the link too so i can watch the video too? I am having a hard time to convert gift card and dating in Media Traffic.

Thank you

vinlulvie · 10-10-2009, 01:27 AM

One of the problem I see is that the landing page of the offers are larger than the 750 * 550 window, so the viewer cannot see the entire offer, I am not sure should I create a bridge page since that will lower the conversion as well.

googmagic · 10-10-2009, 07:19 AM

guys
I am a ppv marketer for over a year. i make over 15k/M from ppv marketing only !
all these networks are good but only one is great - TRAFFIC VANCE.
The only problem is you can't get in there unless you have someone to reffer you that spends over $50 a day and a $1000 first deposit.

well guess what ? it is your lucky day - I have a very good reputation there and i am willing to reffer only 10 people in there.
I must say that i don't get anything from Traffic Vance when i send them someone.
all i want is to make more people happy ! really !

so,
if you are a serious marketer and want to get in Traffic vance PM me with your full name and email please.

Note that Traffic Vance are not accepting new members from Asia & Middle east right now , and you must have a legit website (no adult,gambling etc..)

Googmagic.

PPV Guru · 10-10-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TimScott

Vid was good info, but nothing new that I don't already use for techniques, I do pull url lists based off just keywords as well, but like I said before, I just can't get conversions on anything enough to be profitable

It's the offer your promoting and the landing page you're sending them to. Plus, you may know about that method I showed you, but you're still not looking for the right keywords to get URL's. If you were, you'd be converting.

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Originally Posted by googmagic

guys
I am a ppv marketer for over a year. i make over 15k/M from ppv marketing only !
all these networks are good but only one is great - TRAFFIC VANCE.
The only problem is you can't get in there unless you have someone to reffer you that spends over $50 a day and a $1000 first deposit.

well guess what ? it is your lucky day - I have a very good reputation there and i am willing to reffer only 10 people in there.
I must say that i don't get anything from Traffic Vance when i send them someone.
all i want is to make more people happy ! really !

so,
if you are a serious marketer and want to get in Traffic vance PM me with your full name and email please.

Note that Traffic Vance are not accepting new members from Asia & Middle east right now , and you must have a legit website (no adult,gambling etc..)

Googmagic.

Yeah, Traffic Vance is awesome. I've had the Vice President of Traffic Vance Jonathan Vogel as a guest on a few of my webinars and we've become great friends. He's given me a lot of neat tips for his network.

If guys are spending $10k a day on there, trust me, money is being made. My margins on Traffic Vance are at least 400% profit.

nobluff · 10-11-2009, 01:56 PM

MediaTraffic has also done very badly for me, definitely not profitable traffic for the way I am using it.

I tried pop over, pop under for e-mail submit offers, product offers, did a lot of testing, so there must be some very subtle tricks that others are using that I cant figure out.

Jack@2009 · 10-11-2009, 05:11 PM

PPV GURU,

Could you please send me the link to the PPV Video tutorial?

sp33dr4ge88 · 10-11-2009, 09:38 PM

I wanted to chime in with some results. I like sharing so here it is

First off my primary focus is and has always been primarily zip/email submits.

Media Traffic -

I converted a few teeth whitening offers, then nothing after that. I tested about $200 more on the teeth whitening offers with a review site and I just couldn't convert anymore so I scratched that one.

Tested the walmart gift card offer, free iphone, laptops ect... all zips and it was up and down for both keyword and URL. Some days I was on top and others I was just under even.

I believe finding the right zip or email submit in media will work, it just sucks going through 100 different offers to find it and tailoring each test to specific keywords and domains so you really can't rotate to see what fits.

I tested a few insurance offers, car insurance and debt relief and nothing... again these were zips submits.

Still going at it with media traffic, I know it works it's just a matter of testing and digging for gold.

Clicksor -

Back in April and May I crushed it with any offer I am sure you're all aware of. Sadly clicksor does not allow it's advertisers access to publishers, so the site that was pulling for me mysteriously dropped out of the network never to be seen again, only to be ID'd with a number. After 5 months of them telling me the publisher's site was down I just gave up. I believe they are telling the truth as I have a good relationship with them.

Ran other zips and email submits with clicksor with success. I will tell you it's a painful to find profitable ones. If you're going to do it test at least 5-10 at a time and have deep pockets, but you can find ones that convert and then it makes up for all the testing dollars lost, or at least that's my philosophy.

Summary

- I am still testing offers daily like a mad scientist, both zip/email and pay per sale offers. I avg around $80-$150 daily profit and I sink most of it back into more and more testing hoping to find more gold.

- Recently I was doing about $300-$450 daily with the big 3 search engines. Like many I've lost my G account, thefore I had to start over again. Yes it was painful to lose $300 and sometimes $600 daily profits, but in retrospect I was relying on one source of traffic and this source dictated my income. Now, to be honest, I am thankful that I have becuase it's opened up so many other advertising sources I'd of never looked for and I don't recommend relying on one source of traffic either.

-I started out being slamed back down to $5 daily profits and have thus far began rebuiling without the big G and my best day so far has been $170 profit. Where there's a will, there's a way.

I'll keep you posted on my progress.

alamest · 10-30-2009, 09:53 AM

brother thanks for sharing this useful information, the thing what I have studied is PPV marketing works for someone and does not works for someone.

What I think for myself I need to test it before thinking it works or not..

Thanks for sharing it...
Alam

clkid · 10-30-2009, 09:55 AM

i have done ppv before...works with right keywords

makingmoneyagain · 10-30-2009, 10:27 AM

This thread has some great info in it. I've been looking into PPV as well. Can I get a link to the video? Thanks.

Greg

bbrock32 · 11-23-2009, 12:30 PM

Yeah , I have to confirm that with Media Traffic I've had success only with email and zip submits. I tried a few insurance and edu offers but none of them converted. What's your experience with high paying offers on ppv? Do you think they convert only on TrafficVance?

Frency · 11-25-2009, 12:48 PM

Does anyone know how to track a campaign on MediaTraffic using pop-ups ONLY (no kws) and using Tracking202?

I understand there is a way to do it, but having trouble with specifics on the set up.

Or, has anyone used HyperTracker on MT with Pop-ups only?

Any help appreciated.

BobDolemite · 11-25-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this.

I'm not really here to post WSO's anymore. But I'll PM you the same 45 minute video link.

Hey PPV Guru, could I please have that link as well?

As I babbled on about in my other thread, I've sunk in over $1000 in PPV and I'm still not making a profit. I'm following what I think are decent strategies for choosing targets, but I just can't get things to stick. I really wish I knew what aspect I was doing wrong: the offer, the targets, or the landing page.

Frency · 11-25-2009, 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=PPV Guru;1263452]I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this.

PPV Guru: if you wouldn't mind PM'ing me that link as well if it's still available. I'm trying to figure out this PPV market as well. Much obliged.

samhandwich · 11-25-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frency

Does anyone know how to track a campaign on MediaTraffic using pop-ups ONLY (no kws) and using Tracking202?

I think you just turn on "use target passthrough" and then tracking202 picks it up from there. It has native support for MT

PM me that video too please

dealmaker007 · 11-26-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this.

I'm not really here to post WSO's anymore. But I'll PM you the same 45 minute video link.

Hello PPV Guru,

Could you PM me that video link as well? The trouble I've been having with PPV lately I am going to need it....thanks!

andracs · 11-26-2009, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TE2

Jay,

Tweak it!

Your next step should be...

- eliminate the URL's that are bringing traffic but no conversions

Regards,

John

John, your posts are really helpful! but I think you have not wrote what to do after you've found a winner?
I know that I have to eliminate the non converted URLs and move to other PPV networks.
But how to really expand the campaign?!

Thanks, Andras

redstapler · 11-26-2009, 12:19 PM

PPV advertising is great, I am really surprised that people are still focusing so much on PPC.
I've been using DirectCPV, and while they were sending a lot of junk before like PPVGuru was saying, i've been finding that it's getting a lot better. I think more people are finding out about the company, and that's generating higher quality traffic.
I used to think that PPV advertising was really intrusive and my users would get angry, but I've never gotten any complaints.

KnowJack · 12-02-2009, 06:19 PM

PPV Guru,
Can you PM me the video link also. I'm a nube so we may need another method though.
Thanks

KnowJack · 12-02-2009, 06:37 PM

I like the PPV concept. In one case my situation is unique. I have a client that considers a website hit as a conversion. I know, I know, this is strange but they just want relevant traffic, no conversions or sales.

So, based on that, what network do you think will provide the most PPV traffic and the most relevant PPV traffic at the best cost?

dealmaker007 · 12-02-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowJack

I like the PPV concept. In one case my situation is unique. I have a client that considers a website hit as a conversion. I know, I know, this is strange but they just want relevant traffic, no conversions or sales.

So, based on that, what network do you think will provide the most PPV traffic and the most relevant PPV traffic at the best cost?

Well if you ask me there is a lot of "view fraud" out there.

Your client should care whether the traffic is prequalified or not so he or she would know how many people actually would bother to read what's on their website. Whichever network your use you will have to do significant testing within the client's niche to see what works with their creative/content/etc. What is their endgame other than just "hits" to the website? Don't they want subscribers or readers or for people to bookmark or comment on posts or something?

PPV Affiliate · 12-02-2009, 08:03 PM

Traffic Vance will probably give you the most traffic but I think I would try to convince your clients that it's not really hits that matters. Once you can show them the value of targeted traffic they will think you are a genius and probably be willing to pay you a lot more

tommy_gun · 12-03-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bbrock32

Yeah , I have to confirm that with Media Traffic I've had success only with email and zip submits. I tried a few insurance and edu offers but none of them converted. What's your experience with high paying offers on ppv? Do you think they convert only on TrafficVance?

i would also like to know if somebody has success with media traffic and high paying offers like health trials..

J Bold · 12-03-2009, 03:13 AM

Think about the demographics of PPV networks. As I understand them, they get most of their users by giving them free games, etc. and to get access to these free games, the users agree to see ads every now and then. Voila, that's what adware is at it's core. So, think about what people who want to play games, i.e. entertainment on the computer, would be interested in viewing. I would suggest things like satellite tv offers, DVD offers, dating, gambling, ringtones, etc. are the kinds of things you should look at. I suppose email submits can work, but I would say go after higher payouts. I did very well on one campaign with Dish Network, basically just getting $10 for giving them users who fill out the form, i.e. a solid lead. Basically, I was spending $10 and getting $20 back, so it was a good campaign.

Now, having said this, I have heard that other people have done well in other demographics with PPV, and some people say any niche can be profitable with PPV, so try it out to your heart's desire. Different people get different results with each niche. I would suggest asking the PPV manager assigned to you what is a good niche to use for their PPV network.

KnowJack · 12-03-2009, 06:18 AM

My client is a manufacturer of construction tools like saws. They are not concerned with conversions, they don't even have anything to convert on their website. Resellers do all of their selling and they just want to build their brand and increase product exposure.

I have talked with them for weeks of the importance of converting, even if they send leads to their resellers, but they haven't budged yet. I did some SEO for them that worked like gangbusters (1 - 3 for multiple keywords on Google, Yahoo and Bing) so they're paying more attention to me now. I'm trying to get them to change their website focus, but it is a long drawn-out effort.

Thanks for your advice...

KnowJack · 12-03-2009, 07:16 AM

After redicelander's extremely useful insight it doesn't look like PPV is well suited for a manufacturer of construction equipment.

unlimitedwealth · 12-03-2009, 07:27 AM

One question.

If we build our every own LP for our PPV campaign

PPV >> Landing Page >> Linked cloaked via Prosper202 >> CPA Offer

Technically speaking, is the above could be considered as "non PPV traffic" from CPA network perspective?

Roman8389 · 12-03-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by unlimitedwealth

One question.

If we build our every own LP for our PPV campaign

PPV >> Landing Page >> Linked cloaked via Prosper202 >> CPA Offer

Technically speaking, is the above could be considered as "non PPV traffic" from CPA network perspective?

Don't take my word as official, but I believe that you're correct. I think I read somewhere that visitors coming from an LP don't technically count as CPV traffic. You'll definitely want to check with your AM before sending traffic like this to a non-CPV offer.

Brad

PPV Affiliate · 12-03-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlimitedwealth

One question.

If we build our every own LP for our PPV campaign

PPV >> Landing Page >> Linked cloaked via Prosper202 >> CPA Offer

Technically speaking, is the above could be considered as "non PPV traffic" from CPA network perspective?

No, don't ever assume anything when it comes to CPA networks. It doesn't matter if you are cloaking or not, if you are sending PPV traffic I would make sure the offer you are running accepts it. I wouldn't risk not getting your hard earned commissions.

unlimitedwealth · 12-03-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman8389

Don't take my word as official, but I believe that you're correct. I think I read somewhere that visitors coming from an LP don't technically count as CPV traffic. You'll definitely want to check with your AM before sending traffic like this to a non-CPV offer.

Brad

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. Ideally I would like to experiment a single LP where I drive traffic from various sources such as bum marketing, email, ppc, media buys and ppv. Of course, all clicks will be tracked.

I would like to experiment this once I got the approval from the AMs.

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Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate

No, don't ever assume anything when it comes to CPA networks. It doesn't matter if you are cloaking or not, if you are sending PPV traffic I would make sure the offer you are running accepts it. I wouldn't risk not getting your hard earned commissions.

You are right. By the way, your PPV Playbook rocks! When are you sending the invitations for the free coaching? I am waiting.

PPV Affiliate · 12-03-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by unlimitedwealth

You are right. By the way, your PPV Playbook rocks! When are you sending the invitations for the free coaching? I am waiting.

Cool thanks! I am going to email everyone tonight so check your email in a bit

deknem17 · 12-18-2009, 02:28 PM

PPV Guru can you PM with your video link? THANK YOU

Globe_Trotter13 · 12-18-2009, 05:43 PM

Very interesting topic in here! At times I was left speechless by what's being discussed in here.
Anyways, I'm slowly starting to study PPV as well. A few days ago, I received an email from Gauher Chaudry as I'm on his list, that PPV2 is available again. A couple of quick questions on this:
Has anyone bought and is using that course? Is it really worth the 900 bucks?
Would you suggest someone just starting in CPA to get that course or is that something for only experienced CPA folks?

I'd appreciate your feedback on this.

Cheers.

tommy_gun · 12-18-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Globe_Trotter13

Very interesting topic in here! At times I was left speechless by what's being discussed in here.
Anyways, I'm slowly starting to study PPV as well. A few days ago, I received an email from Gauher Chaudry as I'm on his list, that PPV2 is available again. A couple of quick questions on this:
Has anyone bought and is using that course? Is it really worth the 900 bucks?
Would you suggest someone just starting in CPA to get that course or is that something for only experienced CPA folks?

I'd appreciate your feedback on this.

Cheers.

i think there are really useful informations on ppv2 but i think it's much better if you invest the 900 $ in your ppv budget and find out the things for yourself..this way you will learn much more.

PPV Affiliate · 12-18-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Globe_Trotter13

Very interesting topic in here! At times I was left speechless by what's being discussed in here.
Anyways, I'm slowly starting to study PPV as well. A few days ago, I received an email from Gauher Chaudry as I'm on his list, that PPV2 is available again. A couple of quick questions on this:
Has anyone bought and is using that course? Is it really worth the 900 bucks?
Would you suggest someone just starting in CPA to get that course or is that something for only experienced CPA folks?

I'd appreciate your feedback on this.

Cheers.

I think you would learn more by using the $900 for testing yes. It's a good course but if you are just starting out I would read free blogs and forums to get a better basic understanding of everything. Then if you do buy a course like that you will get a lot more out of it.

J Bold · 12-18-2009, 09:43 PM

Yes, his products are always expensive. The simple fact that he prices it so high builds up the value in people's minds. But, if you are going to be spending that much money for his product, and it's about paid traffic, you better have double or triple that to apply what you learn inside. I haven't bought it, I am just saying. I'm sure it can help, but if you pay that much for something, you better be able to use it. Also, if you pay that much for something, it'd be a waste if you do not put in the time and effort to be successful with what you learn.

Why do I say these things? Because I have made those mistakes myself, in the past.

ihiustler · 12-19-2009, 01:43 PM

why pay for it

i have it but have not looked at it yet

Globe_Trotter13 · 12-20-2009, 04:30 PM

Thanks guys for the honest feedback. Much appreciated!
I'll focus on other methods for now until I make enough to get to that level, which I eventually will!

Cheers guys.

ashsmh · 12-20-2009, 10:56 PM

After seeing all these discussions finally I jumped and started a campaign on Adon Network. My first PPV campaign. I selected the keywords route since I don't know how to do the URL thing. Hope one day I will learn that and go that route too. Meanwhile, let me see what happens to my first campaign. Bless me. HAHAHA.

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10-08-2009, 08:15 AM	#101
Roman8389 Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 72 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Kind of a dumb question here, but anyway: Since CPV is cost per VIEW, do you get charged if the person doesn't actually VIEW the ad? I mean, if the window pops in the task bar and the person doesn't open the window to view it, but instead right-clicks and then chooses Close, does that still count? Does the window loading constitute a "view"? Or do all CPV ads pop over the window, forcing the person to view them? Brad

10-08-2009, 08:26 AM	#102
PPV Guru Stephon "Phon" Rudd War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 374 Thanks: 23 Thanked 89 Times in 28 Posts Contact Info	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! PPV is a killer. I've stopped using PPC a long time ago and I'm not planning on going back to it...not until PPV becomes unprofitable for me which, so far, isn't the case. $5K a day with PPV isn't hard at all. Once you know how to use it, you start off small then build your way up. People should definitely look into it. David

10-10-2009, 01:25 AM	#112
vinlulvie Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Hi PPV Guru, Is it possible you can pm me the link too so i can watch the video too? I am having a hard time to convert gift card and dating in Media Traffic. Thank you

10-10-2009, 01:27 AM	#113
vinlulvie Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! One of the problem I see is that the landing page of the offers are larger than the 750 * 550 window, so the viewer cannot see the entire offer, I am not sure should I create a bridge page since that will lower the conversion as well.

10-10-2009, 07:19 AM	#114
googmagic Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 49 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! guys I am a ppv marketer for over a year. i make over 15k/M from ppv marketing only ! all these networks are good but only one is great - TRAFFIC VANCE. The only problem is you can't get in there unless you have someone to reffer you that spends over $50 a day and a $1000 first deposit. well guess what ? it is your lucky day - I have a very good reputation there and i am willing to reffer only 10 people in there. I must say that i don't get anything from Traffic Vance when i send them someone. all i want is to make more people happy ! really ! so, if you are a serious marketer and want to get in Traffic vance PM me with your full name and email please. Note that Traffic Vance are not accepting new members from Asia & Middle east right now , and you must have a legit website (no adult,gambling etc..) Googmagic.

10-11-2009, 01:56 PM	#116
nobluff Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Whitby, Canada Posts: 46 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! MediaTraffic has also done very badly for me, definitely not profitable traffic for the way I am using it. I tried pop over, pop under for e-mail submit offers, product offers, did a lot of testing, so there must be some very subtle tricks that others are using that I cant figure out.
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10-11-2009, 05:11 PM	#117
Jack@2009 Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 59 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! PPV GURU, Could you please send me the link to the PPV Video tutorial?

10-11-2009, 09:38 PM	#118
sp33dr4ge88 Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! I wanted to chime in with some results. I like sharing so here it is First off my primary focus is and has always been primarily zip/email submits. Media Traffic - I converted a few teeth whitening offers, then nothing after that. I tested about $200 more on the teeth whitening offers with a review site and I just couldn't convert anymore so I scratched that one. Tested the walmart gift card offer, free iphone, laptops ect... all zips and it was up and down for both keyword and URL. Some days I was on top and others I was just under even. I believe finding the right zip or email submit in media will work, it just sucks going through 100 different offers to find it and tailoring each test to specific keywords and domains so you really can't rotate to see what fits. I tested a few insurance offers, car insurance and debt relief and nothing... again these were zips submits. Still going at it with media traffic, I know it works it's just a matter of testing and digging for gold. Clicksor - Back in April and May I crushed it with any offer I am sure you're all aware of. Sadly clicksor does not allow it's advertisers access to publishers, so the site that was pulling for me mysteriously dropped out of the network never to be seen again, only to be ID'd with a number. After 5 months of them telling me the publisher's site was down I just gave up. I believe they are telling the truth as I have a good relationship with them. Ran other zips and email submits with clicksor with success. I will tell you it's a painful to find profitable ones. If you're going to do it test at least 5-10 at a time and have deep pockets, but you can find ones that convert and then it makes up for all the testing dollars lost, or at least that's my philosophy. Summary - I am still testing offers daily like a mad scientist, both zip/email and pay per sale offers. I avg around $80-$150 daily profit and I sink most of it back into more and more testing hoping to find more gold. - Recently I was doing about $300-$450 daily with the big 3 search engines. Like many I've lost my G account, thefore I had to start over again. Yes it was painful to lose $300 and sometimes $600 daily profits, but in retrospect I was relying on one source of traffic and this source dictated my income. Now, to be honest, I am thankful that I have becuase it's opened up so many other advertising sources I'd of never looked for and I don't recommend relying on one source of traffic either. -I started out being slamed back down to $5 daily profits and have thus far began rebuiling without the big G and my best day so far has been $170 profit. Where there's a will, there's a way. I'll keep you posted on my progress.

10-30-2009, 09:53 AM	#119
alamest Internet Marketer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 333 Thanks: 11 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! brother thanks for sharing this useful information, the thing what I have studied is PPV marketing works for someone and does not works for someone. What I think for myself I need to test it before thinking it works or not.. Thanks for sharing it... Alam
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10-30-2009, 09:55 AM	#120
clkid Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! i have done ppv before...works with right keywords

10-30-2009, 10:27 AM	#121
makingmoneyagain Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! This thread has some great info in it. I've been looking into PPV as well. Can I get a link to the video? Thanks. Greg

11-23-2009, 12:30 PM	#122
bbrock32 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 159 Thanks: 1 Thanked 33 Times in 23 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Yeah , I have to confirm that with Media Traffic I've had success only with email and zip submits. I tried a few insurance and edu offers but none of them converted. What's your experience with high paying offers on ppv? Do you think they convert only on TrafficVance?

11-25-2009, 12:48 PM	#123
Frency Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Does anyone know how to track a campaign on MediaTraffic using pop-ups ONLY (no kws) and using Tracking202? I understand there is a way to do it, but having trouble with specifics on the set up. Or, has anyone used HyperTracker on MT with Pop-ups only? Any help appreciated.

11-25-2009, 07:47 PM	#125
Frency Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! [QUOTE=PPV Guru;1263452]I can tell you what you're doing wrong. I'll PM you a link to a free 45 minute video tutorial I've done on this. PPV Guru: if you wouldn't mind PM'ing me that link as well if it's still available. I'm trying to figure out this PPV market as well. Much obliged.

11-26-2009, 12:19 PM	#129
redstapler Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! PPV advertising is great, I am really surprised that people are still focusing so much on PPC. I've been using DirectCPV, and while they were sending a lot of junk before like PPVGuru was saying, i've been finding that it's getting a lot better. I think more people are finding out about the company, and that's generating higher quality traffic. I used to think that PPV advertising was really intrusive and my users would get angry, but I've never gotten any complaints.
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12-02-2009, 06:19 PM	#130
KnowJack Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 52 Thanks: 15 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! PPV Guru, Can you PM me the video link also. I'm a nube so we may need another method though. Thanks
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12-02-2009, 06:37 PM	#131
KnowJack Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 52 Thanks: 15 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! I like the PPV concept. In one case my situation is unique. I have a client that considers a website hit as a conversion. I know, I know, this is strange but they just want relevant traffic, no conversions or sales. So, based on that, what network do you think will provide the most PPV traffic and the most relevant PPV traffic at the best cost?
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12-02-2009, 08:03 PM	#133
PPV Affiliate HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 275 Thanks: 14 Thanked 69 Times in 43 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Traffic Vance will probably give you the most traffic but I think I would try to convince your clients that it's not really hits that matters. Once you can show them the value of targeted traffic they will think you are a genius and probably be willing to pay you a lot more

12-03-2009, 03:13 AM	#135
J Bold Formerly "redicelander" War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,856 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 778 Thanked 589 Times in 368 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Think about the demographics of PPV networks. As I understand them, they get most of their users by giving them free games, etc. and to get access to these free games, the users agree to see ads every now and then. Voila, that's what adware is at it's core. So, think about what people who want to play games, i.e. entertainment on the computer, would be interested in viewing. I would suggest things like satellite tv offers, DVD offers, dating, gambling, ringtones, etc. are the kinds of things you should look at. I suppose email submits can work, but I would say go after higher payouts. I did very well on one campaign with Dish Network, basically just getting $10 for giving them users who fill out the form, i.e. a solid lead. Basically, I was spending $10 and getting $20 back, so it was a good campaign. Now, having said this, I have heard that other people have done well in other demographics with PPV, and some people say any niche can be profitable with PPV, so try it out to your heart's desire. Different people get different results with each niche. I would suggest asking the PPV manager assigned to you what is a good niche to use for their PPV network.
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12-03-2009, 06:18 AM	#136
KnowJack Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 52 Thanks: 15 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! My client is a manufacturer of construction tools like saws. They are not concerned with conversions, they don't even have anything to convert on their website. Resellers do all of their selling and they just want to build their brand and increase product exposure. I have talked with them for weeks of the importance of converting, even if they send leads to their resellers, but they haven't budged yet. I did some SEO for them that worked like gangbusters (1 - 3 for multiple keywords on Google, Yahoo and Bing) so they're paying more attention to me now. I'm trying to get them to change their website focus, but it is a long drawn-out effort. Thanks for your advice...
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12-03-2009, 07:16 AM	#137
KnowJack Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 52 Thanks: 15 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! After redicelander's extremely useful insight it doesn't look like PPV is well suited for a manufacturer of construction equipment.
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12-03-2009, 07:27 AM	#138
unlimitedwealth Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 97 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! One question. If we build our every own LP for our PPV campaign PPV >> Landing Page >> Linked cloaked via Prosper202 >> CPA Offer Technically speaking, is the above could be considered as "non PPV traffic" from CPA network perspective?

12-18-2009, 02:28 PM	#143
deknem17 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 36 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! PPV Guru can you PM with your video link? THANK YOU

12-18-2009, 05:43 PM	#144
Globe_Trotter13 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Geographically Independent Posts: 204 Thanks: 177 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Very interesting topic in here! At times I was left speechless by what's being discussed in here. Anyways, I'm slowly starting to study PPV as well. A few days ago, I received an email from Gauher Chaudry as I'm on his list, that PPV2 is available again. A couple of quick questions on this: Has anyone bought and is using that course? Is it really worth the 900 bucks? Would you suggest someone just starting in CPA to get that course or is that something for only experienced CPA folks? I'd appreciate your feedback on this. Cheers.

12-18-2009, 09:43 PM	#147
J Bold Formerly "redicelander" War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,856 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 778 Thanked 589 Times in 368 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Yes, his products are always expensive. The simple fact that he prices it so high builds up the value in people's minds. But, if you are going to be spending that much money for his product, and it's about paid traffic, you better have double or triple that to apply what you learn inside. I haven't bought it, I am just saying. I'm sure it can help, but if you pay that much for something, you better be able to use it. Also, if you pay that much for something, it'd be a waste if you do not put in the time and effort to be successful with what you learn. Why do I say these things? Because I have made those mistakes myself, in the past.
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12-19-2009, 01:43 PM	#148
ihiustler Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! why pay for it i have it but have not looked at it yet

12-20-2009, 04:30 PM	#149
Globe_Trotter13 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Geographically Independent Posts: 204 Thanks: 177 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! Thanks guys for the honest feedback. Much appreciated! I'll focus on other methods for now until I make enough to get to that level, which I eventually will! Cheers guys.

12-20-2009, 10:56 PM	#150
ashsmh Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPV Marketing - The latest hot trend! After seeing all these discussions finally I jumped and started a campaign on Adon Network. My first PPV campaign. I selected the keywords route since I don't know how to do the URL thing. Hope one day I will learn that and go that route too. Meanwhile, let me see what happens to my first campaign. Bless me. HAHAHA. Smash Marketing Fitness, Health and Wellness All about Digital Photography