Just starting out with Peerfly and 7search, some results and questions.

by Lambss
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Decided to bite the bullet and give it a shot. Read Peerfly Lukes Blog and it was suggested to start with email submits, so that's what I did. My offer is for free Huggies Diapers, I was told to pick something with a high conversion % and this was one of them.

Setup my campaign, has about 50 keywords, all are exact match to start. Bidding no more than .05 a keyword, I get about 100 clicks per 5 dollars.

First thing I noticed was the bot traffic, I am getting a lot of the same people clicking over and over. Wasn't too sure how to filter this away, black list. Apparently I have to call or email 7search to get them to enable it (I think that is stupid as hell by the way,) so I have to wait patiently before I can even try to fix these issues.

Beyond that I don't think there is a whole lot I can do at this point. I am waiting for the blacklisting to be enabled before I can start fixing my click issues. I am starting to think that I could leave this running till all funds are exhausted, and may not see a single conversion...

So I did some reading. Apparently direct linking to one of these offers is considered a bad idea, or a rookie mistake. Some have suggested making a landing page before the initial offer page to see if this effects my results. Does this sound right?

I am going to try real hard to make this work. There are at least a hundred threads on this form that tell you to stay away from 7search, a lot of crying and complaining about it in general, but I really would like to make this work before I even consider moving on.

I was wondering if there was any advice from some of you on how I could maybe make this better? IF I am to make a landing page, what exactly do you need on a landing page to make people more attracted to the offer? Is it maybe just the offer that is the problem? It looks like beyond just submitting an email address, you have to also sign up and pay for something, to even get this to convert. If this is true, I can see why nobody would ever want to do it, thus the low conversion rates.

Some of the other offers, however, make a lot more sense to me. Like an offer for a free to play mmo. Doesn't really specify how you convert, I can only assume that it is when you signup and download. If so, this looks like a much more appealing offer, as it requires no form of payment or commitment from the person who clicked on the link.

Going to keep reading and collecting data. Any advice on how to make the results better, other than quitting 7search altogether, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author Omiro
    I've made over $500-$800 a day direct linking, It all depends on how good the landing page of the offer is. If you think you can make a better one then great go ahead.

    In general your ad and your lander should match. What you say in your ad you should repeat on your landing page. Your lander should include a clear call to action, and all benefits of the product you are selling

    Best thing to do is to look at a product in your niche and how it's being advertised
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    • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
      That's impressive! CPA or other things? And do you have a lot of campaigns going?

      Originally Posted by Omiro View Post

      I've made over $500-$800 a day direct linking, It all depends on how good the landing page of the offer is. If you think you can make a better one then great go ahead.

      In general your ad and your lander should match. What you say in your ad you should repeat on your landing page. Your lander should include a clear call to action, and all benefits of the product you are selling

      Best thing to do is to look at a product in your niche and how it's being advertised
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    First thing I noticed was the bot traffic, I am getting a lot of the same people clicking over and over. Wasn't too sure how to filter this away, black list. Apparently I have to call or email 7search to get them to enable it (I think that is stupid as hell by the way,) so I have to wait patiently before I can even try to fix these issues.

    Beyond that I don't think there is a whole lot I can do at this point. I am waiting for the blacklisting to be enabled before I can start fixing my click issues. I am starting to think that I could leave this running till all funds are exhausted, and may not see a single conversion...
    Yes, you need to the ability to block bad referrers, this is key for 7Search.

    So I did some reading. Apparently direct linking to one of these offers is considered a bad idea, or a rookie mistake. Some have suggested making a landing page before the initial offer page to see if this effects my results. Does this sound right?
    Landing pages generally help conversions if made correctly.

    You should check out this 7Search post for great advice:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...ext-steps.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Lambss
      So, the main thing is being able to block traffic so far. Which I still cannot do till they enable it. I will be making that call tomorrow and hoping for the best.

      I am getting a ton of clicks still, peerfly indicates no conversions though. I have looked at some of the other add text and tried to mimic the higher placed ones. I feel my keywords are good for the markets I am advertising too, but just no conversions.

      I really dont know when I can determine if this is going to work or not. My huggies offer has 38,957 impressions and 168 clicks, 0 conversions. It's been running for 3 days.

      The starwars mmo offer has been running 1 1/2 days, has 8,378 impressions and 14 clicks.

      I will continue to monitor this, I just dont know when to determine if I should start dropping campaigns or not, or even on average how long it could take for some campaigns to convert.

      The link provided doesn't mention a landing page, so at this time I am going to keep trying the direct linking method.

      Would you suggest a new advertisement for the huggies add, based off the clicks and impression data? Would that be one of the first things to try, other than blocking the bad clicks, to make this work? Or should I be giving these campaigns more time?
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      • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
        To know when to kill a campaign or keyword, you ABSOLUTELY need to make calculations based on projections you need to work out, e.g cost per click, a guess of a conversion rate, and a max spend per keyword figure, all run through your tracker, with the data analysed constantly. Once it hits a limit kill it. If you haven't done this you'll find it very hard to turn a campaign profitable.

        Split test 2,3 different ad copies. Use Ispionage to spy on ads people use.

        You can't know if it will or wont work out until you have enough data and know how to interprete it as I've outlined!


        Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

        So, the main thing is being able to block traffic so far. Which I still cannot do till they enable it. I will be making that call tomorrow and hoping for the best.

        I am getting a ton of clicks still, peerfly indicates no conversions though. I have looked at some of the other add text and tried to mimic the higher placed ones. I feel my keywords are good for the markets I am advertising too, but just no conversions.

        I really dont know when I can determine if this is going to work or not. My huggies offer has 38,957 impressions and 168 clicks, 0 conversions. It's been running for 3 days.

        The starwars mmo offer has been running 1 1/2 days, has 8,378 impressions and 14 clicks.

        I will continue to monitor this, I just dont know when to determine if I should start dropping campaigns or not, or even on average how long it could take for some campaigns to convert.

        The link provided doesn't mention a landing page, so at this time I am going to keep trying the direct linking method.

        Would you suggest a new advertisement for the huggies add, based off the clicks and impression data? Would that be one of the first things to try, other than blocking the bad clicks, to make this work? Or should I be giving these campaigns more time?
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  • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
    The post Greedy refers to is my campaign! I can go into detail how I would manage this.

    I started campaigns with 7search 2 weeks ago and you CAN get sales from here, I've so far covered my costs with just 2 campaigns which are converting excellently -I have however launched dozens of campaigns, with most of them not making anything!

    HOWEVER so far I've found direct linking works only with SIMPLE email submits zip submits... if it's 4 pages long, asking the person for credit card you may be best use a landing page another angle or another traffic source. So far I've tried selling well known software which has a high EPC rating direct linking with no joy so I think I would have to build a landing page for that. However I have a friend who directed linked a couple of Clickbank products and got sales from them. You really have to just try. There are people in PPC Coach's forum who for example have just launched loads of campaigns like me and foudn that maybe 5-10% make sales, the rest do nothing!

    Remember too the EPC score is a score which takes into account all traffic sources, and all affiliates, so there could be someone selling your nappies using Bing, or via SEO or Youtube Traffic, who knows. If it has a high EPC it may not convert on 7search, but it is an indication someone somewhere will buy it!

    I wouldn't let your campaign just run at all, I would start going through keywords and pause ALL your keywords what have already reached their max spend per keyword limit, be vigilant, and act fast (assuming you have worked this out? If not you'd better do it) sometimes I shut off a campaign even before that limit, if I have a few clicks but ZERO conversions the total number of clicks for ALL keywords has exceeded the amount I'd get for the price of one conversion I stop it immediately. If however an offer has converted occasionally it means some keywords may be profitable, others not so will so I'll let it run for a bit longer and keep some but shut of most keywords.

    Either call or chat with their live chat, but do it FAST! I got Sub ID blocking enabled immediately as soon as I contacted them when I saw what was going on. Do it as soon as the weekend is over. I started profiting in one campaign as soon as I blocked one sub ID which had 86 clicks but ZERO conversions.

    Also when you block a sub ID block I suggest you block ONLY for that campaign as that sub ID may in fact convert for other campaigns (I keep an eye on this and this can happen)

    Also use Ispionage or another spying tool to look at the kind of ads people put on Google, you will have an idea of stuff that'll make people take action!

    Some people say block a sub ID after 20-25 clicks, others say less or more. Probably do it at the point it reaches your threshold of the maximum spend of your keyword you allocated according to your calculations...

    Also consider lowering your bid for some keywords where there's no competition. Go onto the "microscope" button- which is inbetween the smartbid and impressions button. Look at if there are any other bidders at all, if not lower it. If there are make sure iyour bid leaves you around the top 3- you don't neccessarily need #1 spot to convert.


    Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

    Decided to bite the bullet and give it a shot. Read Peerfly Lukes Blog and it was suggested to start with email submits, so that's what I did. My offer is for free Huggies Diapers, I was told to pick something with a high conversion % and this was one of them.

    Setup my campaign, has about 50 keywords, all are exact match to start. Bidding no more than .05 a keyword, I get about 100 clicks per 5 dollars.

    First thing I noticed was the bot traffic, I am getting a lot of the same people clicking over and over. Wasn't too sure how to filter this away, black list. Apparently I have to call or email 7search to get them to enable it (I think that is stupid as hell by the way,) so I have to wait patiently before I can even try to fix these issues.

    Beyond that I don't think there is a whole lot I can do at this point. I am waiting for the blacklisting to be enabled before I can start fixing my click issues. I am starting to think that I could leave this running till all funds are exhausted, and may not see a single conversion...

    So I did some reading. Apparently direct linking to one of these offers is considered a bad idea, or a rookie mistake. Some have suggested making a landing page before the initial offer page to see if this effects my results. Does this sound right?

    I am going to try real hard to make this work. There are at least a hundred threads on this form that tell you to stay away from 7search, a lot of crying and complaining about it in general, but I really would like to make this work before I even consider moving on.

    I was wondering if there was any advice from some of you on how I could maybe make this better? IF I am to make a landing page, what exactly do you need on a landing page to make people more attracted to the offer? Is it maybe just the offer that is the problem? It looks like beyond just submitting an email address, you have to also sign up and pay for something, to even get this to convert. If this is true, I can see why nobody would ever want to do it, thus the low conversion rates.

    Some of the other offers, however, make a lot more sense to me. Like an offer for a free to play mmo. Doesn't really specify how you convert, I can only assume that it is when you signup and download. If so, this looks like a much more appealing offer, as it requires no form of payment or commitment from the person who clicked on the link.

    Going to keep reading and collecting data. Any advice on how to make the results better, other than quitting 7search altogether, would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambss
    I was under the impression that because I am bidding on 5 cent keywords, that even though I have spent 8 dollars, that may still not be enough. I was thinking 20 dollars, but I guess I am wrong?

    I dont like the Huggies offer quite frankly, compared to that online game, its a lot longer and requires a lot more for the customer. I will start trimming some words down, see how it does.

    You cant call these people over the weekend, they dont answer. I have to wait till tomorrow.

    Now I'm feeling like a failure for not doing this soon, what a weekend. Will post back with results.

    Thanks for help.
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    • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
      You just need the bid to be high enough to be seen in the top 3 positions. I think I may have already killed that campaign, or paused it to make big changes but I dont know if your ad copy is any good.

      Yeah don't be too hung up on one campaign either. Once you set your rules be ruthless, learn to cut your losses and move on fast. You'd be better off testing 10-15 offers, with split testing for any that start to convert.


      Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

      I was under the impression that because I am bidding on 5 cent keywords, that even though I have spent 8 dollars, that may still not be enough. I was thinking 20 dollars, but I guess I am wrong?

      I dont like the Huggies offer quite frankly, compared to that online game, its a lot longer and requires a lot more for the customer. I will start trimming some words down, see how it does.

      You cant call these people over the weekend, they dont answer. I have to wait till tomorrow.

      Now I'm feeling like a failure for not doing this soon, what a weekend. Will post back with results.

      Thanks for help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambss
    Dragon, are you doing mostly exact match keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
      No I'm not actually.

      PPC Coach and Luke Peerfly both use broad match, so i followed their lead.

      Broad match will get you more traffic. Exact match may get more targeted people, but I don't know if that actually leads to better conversions. It may do for certain offers and keywords but I haven't tried it enough so can't comment.

      Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

      Dragon, are you doing mostly exact match keywords?
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      • Profile picture of the author Lambss
        REallllly frustrated.

        Called 7search, still not a human in the office that will take my call, goes directly to answering machines, where I now have left messages.

        I did get an email back about my situation...


        Support ID 91128 [Pending]
        Date 4/19/2014 12:16:00 PM
        Customer Type Advertiser
        Username lambssc
        First, Last Name Ryan Callahan
        Email Address lambss@gmail.com
        Day Phone Number 7278355969
        URL in question http://trkur.com/tk?o=5755&p=119560&...p;s3=###RID###

        Previous Question(s)
        *** Date: 4/19/2014 12:16:29 PM ***
        Please provide the date range for clicks that you feel were low quality.
        4/18/14 - 4/19/14

        Why do you believe that these clicks were low quality?

        same id clicking 8 times or more, its junk traffic and i want to get rid of it.

        Which keywords in your account were affected by these clicks?

        baby


        Please provide any further information that will help us to investigate your claim, including dates, times, and IP addresses of the clicks in question.

        I just want the Blacklist SubID option enabled please


        Previous Answer(s)
        *** Date: 4/21/2014 9:55:14 AM ***
        Good Morning Ryan,

        Thank you for contacting 7Search.com's Traffic Quality Team.

        Reviewing the traffic received by your account between 4/18/14 - 4/19/14, we were unable to locate any distinct sub-affiliate source that sent more than 8 clicks to your campaigns. To assist you in determining your current clicks, we have provided an attached Click Report. This contains all clicks your account was charged for, from 04/01/2014 till today, for your active campaigns.


        They will do it, but only after I answer some questions. Even more annoying, I dont feel like I should have to answer to anyone to block bad traffic, but I guess I do.

        So nobody answering phone, there is no live chat, and 1-2 business days per email.. Looks like I'm waiting some more.


        Oh well
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        • Profile picture of the author Lambss
          I will try the broad search some, see if I get some different results. One of the examples in lukes blog does tell you to do exact matching, so I went off that. I think I read somewhere that PPC Coach did the same thing, at least that was the impression I got.

          I wont be touching this anymore till they let me block traffic, so once I have the option, I'll test some broad keywords and see if I get better results.


          Thanks!
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          • Profile picture of the author Lambss
            While I wait, another question. 7search is saying 8 clicks from one source isnt enough to block, that seems to be the highest in my huggies campaign. If 8 clicks isnt enough to black list, then what is the number I am looking for?

            What they are telling me kind of goes against what I am hearing here. I feel like anything that even gets 4 clicks should be blocked if I dont get a convert.

            Is this wrong?
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            • Profile picture of the author Lambss
              Found another good reference for blocking, this guy went to another level and actually checked out the websites, had different reasons for blocking them, something I should think about an analyze.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...s-7search.html

              Atleast it seems like a good idea to me.
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              • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
                Interesting. I had an idea you could do that but haven't done that myself, I'll consider looking into that.

                Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

                Found another good reference for blocking, this guy went to another level and actually checked out the websites, had different reasons for blocking them, something I should think about an analyze.

                http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...s-7search.html

                Atleast it seems like a good idea to me.
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                • Profile picture of the author Lambss
                  well, at 12:30 PM live chat is up, I can now block IDs.

                  reading that guide, he seems to be blocking ids for various reasons. One was because the site was just a blank website with a search bar.

                  Is that a common example of a site I should always block? Are there any other examples anyone can suggest?

                  At least I am learning the process, once I understand what qualifies as junk traffic, I may be able to optimize this really well.
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                  • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
                    There is a list on PPC coach's forum but you have to have to be a member

                    Other than that some sub IDs actually convert on other campaigns where they are wasted so I would suggest block for campaigns only, not "all" you just have to keep an eye on them.


                    Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

                    well, at 12:30 PM live chat is up, I can now block IDs.

                    reading that guide, he seems to be blocking ids for various reasons. One was because the site was just a blank website with a search bar.

                    Is that a common example of a site I should always block? Are there any other examples anyone can suggest?

                    At least I am learning the process, once I understand what qualifies as junk traffic, I may be able to optimize this really well.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Lambss
                      PPC Coach Strikes Again!!!!

                      Maybe ill resub, I used to a while back but never actually went through with any of it.

                      Campaign only for the blocking, got it.

                      PPC Coach used to tell people to start their bids at 1 cent a click, do you follow that advice?
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                      • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
                        I start some keywords at 1c but other keywords at least 5c or near smartbid, I usually let it run for a while and see what position they are in. If they are low visibility or it says low bid I raise it to the level where it will be top 3 positions.

                        I followed his training and because of that I'm getting conversions on several campaigns

                        Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

                        PPC Coach Strikes Again!!!!

                        Maybe ill resub, I used to a while back but never actually went through with any of it.

                        Campaign only for the blocking, got it.

                        PPC Coach used to tell people to start their bids at 1 cent a click, do you follow that advice?
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                        • Profile picture of the author Lambss
                          I am happy to say that I finally got a conversion!!!!!

                          Was on my SWTOR offer.

                          30 clicks for $1.76 Total.

                          I made $1.75.

                          So Im -.01 total, but I am just happy it converted.
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            • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
              8 clicks isn't enough. some people say 50, 75 or 100. I know of people blocking after 10-15 but that could be too soon depending on the cost of clicks and the price of a sale. i usually wait for at least 20-25.

              Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

              While I wait, another question. 7search is saying 8 clicks from one source isnt enough to block, that seems to be the highest in my huggies campaign. If 8 clicks isnt enough to black list, then what is the number I am looking for?

              What they are telling me kind of goes against what I am hearing here. I feel like anything that even gets 4 clicks should be blocked if I dont get a convert.

              Is this wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author watsonovedades
    after blocking non-converting sites you will see an increase
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambss
    2 conversions now for the campaign. $2.93 spent, 3.50 earned. So I'm positive on this campaign, but barely.

    Started looking at all the traffic I get from 7search, its real hard to tell if any of the traffic is good or not.

    I get a lot of blank websites with search bars, or websites that just have a billion content articles on a page, not really relevant to anything doing with my keywords.

    I feel like a good 80% of the traffic is completely trash, really hard to tell which is good traffic and which is not. The good ones I have seen are obvious, but still difficult to tell on some of the others.
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    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

      2 conversions now for the campaign. $2.93 spent, 3.50 earned. So I'm positive on this campaign, but barely.

      Started looking at all the traffic I get from 7search, its real hard to tell if any of the traffic is good or not.

      I get a lot of blank websites with search bars, or websites that just have a billion content articles on a page, not really relevant to anything doing with my keywords.

      I feel like a good 80% of the traffic is completely trash, really hard to tell which is good traffic and which is not. The good ones I have seen are obvious, but still difficult to tell on some of the others.
      Nice job with the conversions,

      My suggestion now is to move over to bing and see how you go with bings ppc platform. Bings minimum bid is also 5c.
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      • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
        I'll be shortly doing this myself

        7search is the 3 wheel cycle,

        Bing is the real one with all the gears etc

        Originally Posted by owen2012 View Post

        Nice job with the conversions,

        My suggestion now is to move over to bing and see how you go with bings ppc platform. Bings minimum bid is also 5c.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greedy
      Originally Posted by Lambss View Post

      2 conversions now for the campaign. $2.93 spent, 3.50 earned. So I'm positive on this campaign, but barely.

      Started looking at all the traffic I get from 7search, its real hard to tell if any of the traffic is good or not.

      I get a lot of blank websites with search bars, or websites that just have a billion content articles on a page, not really relevant to anything doing with my keywords.

      I feel like a good 80% of the traffic is completely trash, really hard to tell which is good traffic and which is not. The good ones I have seen are obvious, but still difficult to tell on some of the others.
      Use tracking to block bad referers. If you are unsure just google it.

      But I would focus on getting a bit more volume first.

      Good Luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author alvinaff1
        Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

        Use tracking to block bad referers. If you are unsure just google it.

        But I would focus on getting a bit more volume first.

        Good Luck.
        thanks for reminding, I found the blocking step in Luke blog.
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        • Profile picture of the author LukePeerFly
          Originally Posted by alvinaff1 View Post

          thanks for reminding, I found the blocking step in Luke blog.
          Good to hear. If anyone needs this enabled on their 7Search account just fill out the form at the bottom of the post and I can usually get it done for you within a few hours

          Blacklisting Bad Performing SubIDs on 7Search
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          • Profile picture of the author dragonsfire1981
            My other observations so far is that some of the the higher paying offers appear not to convert well or at all on 7search. I have had sales via pay per sale but only from one offer which was for software (although to be fair I've only tested about 6 offers and I didn't spend a huge amount on testing on them).

            2 other functions related to the Sub ID Blocking are that you can raise the bid % for sub IDs- although I'm not sure if this is bid price or bid frequency- Luke or Greedy do you know the answer to this, or can you confirm exactly which one the % function changes?

            Also dayparting start stop times for ads. I will at some point put together a spreadsheet to analyse this. So far from looking most of my conversions do indeed come at certain times but having aid that I've had conversions both AM and PM and late and early.
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  • Profile picture of the author solidsoul
    Interesting topic considering I was about to dive into 7search. Just my two cents on the whole LP VS Direct Linking. years back we pushed traffic directly to offers LP and google used to allow this then came a time when they pulled the trigger but it was still possible to fake it by chaning the destination url on the keyword level - that all changed and now impossible to DL on google. Bing allows it and it has it's pros and cons like anything else. Cons would include the lack of control you have over the users visit to the site and pros highly depend on the LP being used - if you yourself think it sucks but think the product or service is great then you may want to invest some time in creating something more appealing - personally i use my own LP for anything I promote to capture a lead prior to marketing. If they not interested in this offer I have a name and email to promote other shit to..
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  • 7search is good for email submits and zip submits. But you need to understand few things about 7search before jumping to it:
    1. Work with 1000s of keywords
    2. Use broach match only (phrase / exact will not give much results)
    3. Starting bidding from $0.05 only, though it may suggest higher bids
    4. Track from the beginning and block sub-ids which are not converting.
    5. For keywords, we can see 100 clicks
    6. Once a keyword is converting, if there is sub-id not converting for 10-15 clicks, block
    7. 7search gives special offers for new registrants, similar to adwords coupons. They give upto 50% match on your 1st recharge (upto $500). If you want, just contact me.

    The best you could do is register with new account, recharge for $500, you will get $250 extra credit. Just follow the instructions stated above. You will surely make good revenues. Just choose an offer that is high converting and pays around $5 - $8, you can get break even faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mediator
    Happy to see that you got 2 conversions ^^ i hope you have more.
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  • Profile picture of the author asiaa
    Why can't 7Search block bad traffic sources? Why is it left to the advertiser to do this?
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    • Profile picture of the author hollandgirl4
      Hello, just starting out with affiliate advertising with Peerfly and read Luke's guide and thought 7search sounded like a really good starting point, but now reading the above comments I am unsure whether to go for this or bing?

      Also, when going to make an account for either site it asks me for a company name and address and I am unsure what to put here? This is the bit I am getting stuck on the most!

      As I said I am very new here, so am sorry if this is a silly question!

      Thank you in advance.
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    HI Hollandgirl14. Depending on where you live you put your own name and address which must be the same as payment mode, for all tax etc questions ask an accountant or equivalent in your country.

    I'd advise trying adwords and bing, 7search is cheap, but doesn't really convert (for me and others)

    they are plenty of coupons for adwords and bing, google them ;-)
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  • Why not expose 7search's bad traffic sources?

    I mean, if you look at Peerfly's click reports, as well as your conversion data, it's not hard for us to publisk (put in WF threads) a list of 'non-converting' sites...

    I'd save a lot of people a LOT of time - and would be in the spirit of this thread, frankly, without exposing what anyone is selling.

    What I have found is a lot of the bot traffic from 7search comes from a few MASSIVE websites that 7search owns and rotates their ads from.

    Does anyone else see this happen?
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  • Also -

    One thing I've seen you mention in your strategy is that you block Sub ID's, but nowhere have you mentioned adding Negative Keywords.

    This strategy, in my opinion, through ALL PPC platforms is a MUST to target traffic - BTW.
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