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I have recently DIVED head first into CPA marketing. I have been using Google AdWords PPC to drive traffic to CPA offers. Seems like a pretty common strategy. Couple Questions: 1. Do Polls actually convert to CPA Leads, and overall you geting paid? 2. If you are using polls what topics are you "polling"? 3. What offers are converting the best with Polls? Thanks, Chris |
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I've had varied success with polls. Some win, some lose. The key with polls is to launch lots and lots of them and see what works. Drop the ones which don't and then scale the ones which do. Sounds obvious I know, but a lot of people just concentrate on launching a couple of polls, they don't profit and then wonder what they did wrong. Thing is they didn't necessarily do anything wrong, it just they need to keep launching and testing until they find something which does work. The ones which seem to work best (in my experience) are the ones targeted at a younger (maybe more naive) surfer. They are more likely to plug in their email or zip code to win an i-phone, whereas older surfers can be more skeptical about these offers (we all know you get nothing for free, right?) |
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Well, free products usually don't pay well so I stay away from them. My concept is if I am paying $.30 per click on PPC then my product should give me at least $30 factoring in the 1% CTR. I would never promote email/zip submits using PPC. As far as using polls I stay away from them. They are somewhat played out. I can't say this without informing you that people make good money with polls but they also do it with organic traffic and they don't really use PPC. This is just my opinion. Building a good solid poll and getting it ranked in google is probably the best route to take. Shawn |
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I just started doing the polling. One important note - I was planning to advertise in content network only but with the changes Google made my ads ended up in search as well before I caught it, so be careful! So I'm now trying to pay $72 in Adwords charges. However, I do have $21 from leads in my network account. Payout isn't until $100, though. I do plan to do polls again and track once they are set up correctly. I did one poll on a popular thing going on today. I do not mention the free whatever in the poll. I only set up the ad to mention a poll. I made my landing page of simple HTML and the landing page's yes or no links went to the offer site. I stuck with the gift card offers and a free cruise offer and the cruise offer got the most leads. I'm in the process of getting approved by another CPA company and plan to continue to do polls and maybe building mini-sites around particular offers in the future. I wrote a bit about my first attempt at a poll on my Freebies blog and will continue that information once I get Google paid and try it again. I also plan to revamp my polling website and my landing pages while I get the money together and work on other sites as well. After I do a few polls, I may write up a case study about the experience, but all that is pretty new to me so we'll see. |
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They do still work, definitely. The best training for it, is through PPC Coach, there is a whole sub forum dedicated to it, and there are a lot of new posts everday. Lots of great information. I also talk about it in my cpa wso. Basically you have to get the people emotionally involved. A question like "Do You like Coke?" isn't going to get as many people responding as "Is Abortion Morally Wrong?" Post some of your exact questions on polls for CPA and I will respond best I can here. |
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Agreed. I bet a poll after MJ's death saying, "Was MJ Murdered or Die of Natural Causes?" would get things stirred up. When sports teams play big games is another good time for polls. | |
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Polls still do work. The main trick is to find a "news worthy" event and target that before anyone else. Once you have a story (such as Jackson's death) you can find a offer (email, zip, short survey) in which the person voting would be interested in. Sometimes I don't even send the visitor to an offer but create my own survey (single opt) and let them sign up. I can then later send him / her offers over and over .... Also, as a traffic source, the content network is the best solution |
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I agree the MJ keywords probably still rock. I let that one go, I just didnt have the time (two little ones running around here). I find news worthy stuff by looking at other poll sites, like sodahead and that. I also check google trends. Oh, and yes, only do the polls on the content network, small keyword groups (20-50) keywords. |
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Polls work great with hotbutton issues and topical items, with email submits I usually put an email field up front so I can prepop it into the offer, fire a postback to my own list, or both. I've never had one convert well into a long form, I agree with jestershaw a 1% conversion ratio is fairly typical in that case.
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See i am actually on the other end. I do well with email/zip submits using polls and don't take anything less than 70% hop through, and 50% conversions.
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For those who do a squeeze page and start a list, how do you do that? What do you say on your landing page? I've not started that yet because I'm not sure about building a list quite yet.
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As jakesellers mentioned, if you can find a prepop offer then that is definitely increasing the your conversion. Also, nowadays it is pretty easy to set up these offers as there are two main poll offer generators out there. One is php based the other WP (wordpress). Go and try it out. We can only tell you so much. |
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routonc38, you have to put together a page that asks people for their email address, offer them something in return, give them a reason to trust you, show your expertise, and test the page with every variable you can. Opleads, I think there are more than 2 poll offer generators, but I have to agree, you have to try these things yourself, you can't make anything with out giving it a shot. |
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I have heard that polls and email submits really work well if you target the right niche, but i havent tried yet.
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Yeah you have to target them with keywords on the content network to get them to work, but yeah, you should give it a shot.
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They work especially when you target the hot topics and trends. Google trends is awesome for this.
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You guys want to do a poll, you got a topic! Sara Palin is resigning. Go for it! Make a landing page, pick an offer and get R Done! The Huff, content network means we advertise in Google's content network for Adwords, not the search results. It's cheaper than search and will only come up on related sites. My polls ended up being in search AND content, which is why I owe $72 now instead of $50 - the clicks got away from me. |
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The Sarah Palin resignation will be very hot you hit the nail on the head
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Wow, I didnt know Palin was resigning, how come? That is awesome! Here come the polls, woo hoo!!
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CPA polls used to work well pre-2006. People these days generally just close their windows upon seeing them - we're a lot web savvier now and simple tricks like this don't work nearly as well as they used to.
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Here is a quick method that has made me some pretty good cash... Register a domain such as hotpolls.com Go to Google trends and find a nice HOT controversial topic. Create a sub domain with the keyword of the topic. (MichaelJacksonDies.hotpolls.com) Build your poll page and then Digg, Stumble, and other web 2.0 Your page will get ranked pretty quickly with the web 2.0 stuff, but it will be short lived. you should get some pretty good traffic and conversions. I do about 10 of these each morning. It takes less than 2 hours to complete. I can make about $50 - $200 per day with this method. Doug |
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I may do that, Doug, since I don't want to buy more PPC traffic yet until I pay Google for this first batch. I'm a member of Stumble Upon but I don't know how to add a site to it. **I did this today with 3 polls but got zip I guess I'll wait and do another PPC Campaign soon.**
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I still see polls do very well in 2009, so I dont agree with the pre-2006 comment, but everyone has a different experience. What you give away is usually gift cards, ipods, small things like that, that are believable, in my experience anyway. Mary Green |
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Pre-pop campaigns are a must if you are doing polls if you want to build a list as well as sell. I agree with all the comments of MaryGreen and Dmarzean that polls definitely work for the right niches. Many networks that run just incentivized traffic will provide you with pre-pop code if you can demonstrate that you can drive qualified traffic. As a CPA Network, we look for the traffic that does well for the advertiser on both the front and the back end. If your traffic converts well for the advertiser then you will get more love from your AM on these offers. Polls on hot topics that can glean a little demogrpahic info as well, helps in identifying which offer you show them at the end. So if your poll provider has the capabilty for you to be able to structure if/then type outcome decision making, you can display different final pages to men as opposed to women, or younger users vs older users. I did this with a health offer that asked the users to fill out a 16 question poll on their health. Nearly 70% filled it out and gave their email address and name again at the end, all to get a report on how to alleviate acid reflux. When they got to the last page we displayed offers based on their responses. Much better conversion that way. In fact we had 5% of the people who filled it out tell us they had mesotheliomia, which we were able to broker those leads to lead buyers who specialized in these patients. It was very lucrative. |
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great info!
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Now understand that your site will not stay indexed like this for more than a day or so unless you take the time to do some solid on page and off page seo. I go through about 10 - 15 of these sites per day. But you can throw them together quickly. If you use .info domains you can do it for less than $2 per site. Not all of my sites are huge money makers. But when I build 10 - 15 per day, it adds up pretty fast! Doug | |
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I never even tried the cruise sign ups, will have to try that. i have always stuck with what works, you know?
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Doug You're a pretty cool guy. Many Warriors would have sold your method as a WSO. I wish you great success in all your biz activities. Hopefully you are a appreciated for you contribution. |
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Yes, I find Doug's post is very helpful too and read his posts in this thread very carefully. I maybe send him PM to ask some more detailed info. Thanks Doug! | |
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I am glad I could help. That's what this forum is all about. I was new once too and had a lot of questions... Here is my response to a PM. Hope this will clarify for others as well. Quote: Originally Posted by tycoon828 Hi, Doug, I read your post about taking advantage of google hot trend to make poll and I have some questions to ask you. I hope to get help from you as I need some money urgently. 1, Our own domain, especially new registered one, regularly has PR0, so do you think it's better that we use blogspot so as to outrank those low PR domain when we want to rank high in google's organic search? 2, I saw a WSO to sell WP based poll software. Do you use any software to make poll page? If yes, what do you use? 3, Regularly, google organic search come from all over the world but lots of CPA offer just accept U.S traffic. So what kind of CPA offer do you promote? From your experience, what kind of offer convert well? 4, How many web2.0 sites do you submit for each poll page to get ranked high? 10? 20? or more? When you get ranked, regularly which place do you get? No1, No2 or just in first page? You know No2 can only get 12% of total traffic, and No3 only around 8%, so I think only rank within the first 3 place can we get some traffic. How do you think about this? Thank you so much for your time, if you can answer me these questions, I really appreciat it. Best Wishes! Eric Eric, With this method, you do not need to worry about PR. Your sites are not looking for long term ranking. All you are looking for is to ride the wave of the trend. You want your site to rank well for a very specific longtail keyword. I am using the WP poll plugin that you found here on Warrior. The offers that convert best are simple zip submit offers. You might get some traffic from outside the US, but if you focus on trends that are hot here in the US you wont have much of a problem. I submit to 3 bookmarking sites, 2 RSS feed sites, 2 do follow blog sites. Since we are optimizing for longtail keywords, I usually rank in the #1 - #2 position for about a day or so. Hope this helped, Doug |
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I posted MJ poll on Adwords same day I heard about it and it is still under review. | |
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Mrgoogle, was it on a new account?
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Sometimes it can take a while for them to review new campaigns. Just keep making more campaigns, and they will get to you. Good Luck!
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I know Poll Method is the best method to promote E-mail Submit offers, but I was just wondering, is there is any other effective method to promote them? Thanks. |
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One other way other than polls is Youtube although you need a youtube view boosting program for it to work.
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Email works, but you really have to test everything to see what works. Polls are great, but giving away free items works with zip/email offers too.
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So the same poll I made $20 with last time got me $1.20 this time. Last time it was running in both search and content by mistake and I think that made a difference. Do you guys run in search and content both or just content? Could the time of day made a difference? My Sarah Palin poll has not been approved yet by Google. No idea how long that is going to take. I input it Saturday afternoon. I have another one I'm running tonight on content and we'll see how it goes. It's a new one but the offer pays more than the others I've picked. |
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Okay, now I'm fed up with polls. $100 total between my first one and this weekend and pretty much nothing. And some of the polls I posted are "pending review" and have just sat there all weekend. Big Bummer.
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Guys, you might not be doing something right with these polls. Send me a pm with the links to your polls and tell me how you set up the campaigns and I will help.
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Yes, they definitely do still work as I can attest to it. The key is knowing the right way to implement them just like others have mentioned.
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To set them up properly, get as many words that pertain to the topic you choose and split keywords into 50 each ad group, then put the poll ad as follows: Michael Jackson? 1 Minute Poll Was He Killed? But I would love to look at how you did your landing page, because that makes a huge difference as well. |
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