Rant Against Google Marketing

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Rant.

Google sucks for marketing. It is ripping every one of us off.

I am fed up with the marketing rules, the over complication, the blind faith needed, and the ridiculous pricing structures. Why are we settling for this? We all know it's a deeply flawed system of doing business.

Google, (FB, and Twitter), benefit no matter if we win or lose marketing with them. All three sites slant the rules in their favor. In fact, those sites are BUILT off of our marketing failures! I can count 1000 marketing defeats for every success. When was the last time you heard a marketer say "Google Adwords, FB or Twitter are AWESOME for marketing, and mean it!!!?" And if you did here that, was someone trying to sell you something at the same time? This is B*llsh!t and I'm not taking it any more.

Here is how they really have us hung.

1. The illusion of real-time. We are not really in control of our marketing dollars once we pay. We waste a lot of time and money for a tiny result. In truth, the best Google can provide us with at present is a glorified emailing system disguised as "social media," and we are made to believe we're all chit-chatting in real-time. We're not. You are alone in a room by yourself not knowing who's online (this very moment) to be your potential customer, friend, partner or whatever.

2. Friend counts. I love when I hear "market to your friends." ~Because I am constantly at my neighbor's house trying to sell him my next widget. Knock, knock, guess who? Give me a break. Online right now at Google, there millions of potential buyers that need what ever you're selling. I mean, right this second. Can you touch, feel or see them without paying a fortune to blindly test market? No, you can't. You are alone in a room by yourself not knowing who's online just out of reach. If we are all buzzing away this moment, shouldn't we be able to connect to each other in the moment? We are a swarm of onliners, but completely isolated from one another. Remember this. Friend counts were designed as a wall created to stop us from connecting to each other in the present as humans, friends and marketers. This is a fact and it's what Google is truly billing us for.

3. We are only allowed indirect contact with each other. Every time you market something, you are kept at arm's length from your prospects. You can't directly talk to, pitch, sell or develop relationships like conventional offline marketing. Your landing page is your only friend and it only captures 3 seconds of your prospects time for the most part. I get that online marketing is different than face to face sales, but right now our selling avenues to do so are so muddied with paying "the man" I can hardly see giving them one more penny. And this comment is salted by a fair amount of online marketing success of my own. Still it does not outweigh how I feel about "the system" by which we are all forced to endure along the way. Today was my tipping point.

I want something better!

Rant over.
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  • Profile picture of the author humsmasher
    Not a single response in 4 days? Hmmm.

    Snap out of it. Google FB & Twitter are keeping us ALL blind! There are millions of us all online right this minute - but none of us can access this mass of power without paying for "advertising?"

    You think maybe one of those million people might buy your product from you if you could only target them in the moment? I mean without the WASTE PPC is. That's their game, their rules, and it's old thinking. We out number them. They should be following us.

    The game is going to change...
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  • Profile picture of the author Supremed
    Yeah I've lost a lot of money trying to get clicks to convert and most ad networks charge an arm and a leg per click. I've been trying to come up with a new method that doesn't involve the over saturated "Click to Landing Page/Lead Capture" method.
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativesLinda
    Why do you think you didn't get any responses? Because Google rules the internet, if not the world. Kudos to them for taking a little start-up company and turning it into the giant it is today. It's their game and you either play by their rules or you don't get to play. Plain and simple.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Google, (FB, and Twitter), benefit no matter if we win or lose marketing with them. All three sites slant the rules in their favor.
      Businesses in business to profit? How horrible.

      No one has answered because there's no point to the rant. Don't like google - don't use it. Don't like adwords or Facebook ads - don't pay for them.

      We out number them. They should be following us.
      They ARE following us - you don't get it. Those businesses you list above succeed because they provide what most people (as in customers and site visitors) want. That's why they are valuable to advertisers.

      You can use them or not - but you have no 'clout' with them except your wallet. If every marketer on the WF stopped advertising on the sites you mention - it would have negligible impact, if any, on those businesses.
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      • Profile picture of the author humsmasher
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Businesses in business to profit? How horrible.
        No one has answered because there's no point to the rant. Don't like google - don't use it. Don't like adwords or Facebook ads - don't pay for them.
        They ARE following us - you don't get it.
        You have exactly one choice. It's a monopoly and it's B#llsh!t. What if YOU owned your own keywords? What if they were free -as they should be, and you were free to reach any of the swarm of people on line now with those keywords? For example what if you were your own LIVE website posting then receiving live responses the moment you posted them. That is the way brick and mortars operate. They interact with their customers on the fly. That's thousands of years of tried and true marketing.

        We are all like the crab in the boiling pot. It feels great until the moment you realize your boiling. I have seen enough.


        Originally Posted by CreativesLinda View Post

        Why do you think you didn't get any responses? Because Google rules the internet, if not the world. Kudos to them for taking a little start-up company and turning it into the giant it is today. It's their game and you either play by their rules or you don't get to play. Plain and simple.
        Yes, kudos to them. I will not play, and they can suck it. They own keywords? That is like saying I own The White House. It's like this, Let's say I own the only coffee store in town. No one else is doing it and I serve hot coffee and treats. There are a lot of people in town and no one else is doing it, so I think, let's artificially raise the prices (with no competition btw). Bingo. I win, see you all later. Wake up!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author CreativesLinda
          Originally Posted by humsmasher View Post


          Yes, kudos to them. I will not play, and they can suck it. They own keywords? That is like saying I own The White House. It's like this, Let's say I own the only coffee store in town. No one else is doing it and I serve hot coffee and treats. There are a lot of people in town and no one else is doing it, so I think, let's artificially raise the prices (with no competition btw). Bingo. I win, see you all later. Wake up!!!
          Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTX
    That's why I use Bing. Not the best solution, but I sleep well, knowing my dollars won't end up in google's pocket.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dbm811
    Google makes the path that we use to get to the water, and serves us to higest bidders not the best service but the higest bidders!

    This is not googles fault, we make the desicion to stay on the path insted of trying new paths or make new ones ourself, we can only try to find a spot between the big crocodiles by becomming a smal pirana taking leftovers.

    There is nothing organic or natural about the results we find on google its all about how well you can manipulate and how much money you spend that gets you sales and conversions.
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    • Profile picture of the author humsmasher
      Originally Posted by Dbm811 View Post

      ~ we can only try to find a spot between the big crocodiles by becomming a smal pirana taking leftovers.

      There is nothing organic or natural about the results we find on google its all about how well you can manipulate and how much money you spend that gets you sales and conversions.
      Exactly. Google FB, Twitter, Bing, whatever, in general leave us the leftovers, and we are supposed to lie down and take it?! NO WAY. NO MORE. I demand ownership of my own keywords. I demand an END to friend counts.

      Remember this, and say it aloud: Google does not own keywords. You should own your own. Equally important is that Friend counts are the way they enforce this. Don't be a sucker for all the other candy Google and the others offer. We are strictly talking marketing.

      I am beside myself at how diluted, and lulled this forum is. You should all be mad as hell you're being punked like this. I don't feel like I'm amidst warriors, it feels like a group of beaten dogs.

      I am angry. Not because of marketing failure, because I have been successful. I am angry because they have convinced us that leftovers is enough for us to keep coming back.
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  • Profile picture of the author willyboy104
    I am so tempted to spend 20 minutes highlighting the huge sink holes in your rant but at the end of the day it's your opinion and a waste of my time so what's the point.

    All I will say though is whether your an online business or a brick and mortar business simply launching isn't enough to get footfall or traction so quit complaining that Google is a monopoly if you compare them to the offline marketing methods of a coffee shop or a bakery then it's just the same yet you don't even complain about that because you either didn't consider it or it doesn't affect you.

    Anyone and everyone can be successful without having to rely on Google, Facebook or Twitter or any of the other large platforms. The reason people do rely on these platforms is because it's EASIER...

    You can pay for traffic = instant target market

    You can wait for traffic = organic/viral marketing

    Either way you can test, split-test and really see whether or not that business idea you have really can be a success or not without even having to invest tens of thousands of dollars.

    That's all I can't be bothered going any further, the reason you rant/complain is you don't understand marketing at all, simple.

    If you want something better, go and make it.
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    • Profile picture of the author humsmasher
      Originally Posted by willyboy104 View Post

      Anyone and everyone can be successful without having to rely on Google, Facebook or Twitter or any of the other large platforms. The reason people do rely on these platforms is because it's EASIER...

      You can pay for traffic = instant target market

      You can wait for traffic = organic/viral marketing

      Either way you can test, split-test and really see whether or not that business idea you have really can be a success or not without even having to invest tens of thousands of dollars.
      Willing to post precisely what you are selling and where so we can all duplicate your success? Sounds like you can make it simple. Don't leave out a single detail.
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  • Profile picture of the author millyster
    The truth of the matter is, Google and Facebook don't need small fish like us to run their business. Google gets million dollar companies like Coca Cola, McDonald's, Insurance Companies etc. to spend thousands of dollars a day. They would rather be dealing with big time companies than small time affiliates. It's just the sad truth. Find alternatives.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    I wouldn't waste your time getting all worked up over it, just get to work on a solution. Adwords and Facebook's ad networks generate the majority of their revenues. They aren't going to change things.

    I make a ton of money on Adwords with my own project and get leads for other companies.

    Facebook has been doing great via TeeSpring, if you haven't noticed.

    No complaints here.
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    • Profile picture of the author humsmasher
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      I wouldn't waste your time getting all worked up over it, just get to work on a solution. Adwords and Facebook's ad networks generate the majority of their revenues. They aren't going to change things.

      I make a ton of money on Adwords with my own project and get leads for other companies.

      Facebook has been doing great via TeeSpring, if you haven't noticed.

      No complaints here.
      I am happy for your success, but you are missing my point. You are in the minority of wage earners. Most people talk a good game in here, but I bet you'd find most are scratching their heads.

      When you begin to understand that the concept of "friends" or "friend counts" is the way you are controlled by Google (and the other social sites), you will seek to abolish it like slavery. It is old thinking and does not serve people any more.

      The next to go will be the price tag on keywords or keyword phrases. This too would fall off the earth if I had my way. -They will be free.

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      Use your head for a minute...

      Imagine there was no Adwords (or fill in the social media blank here) for just a moment.

      Now... This very moment, the internet is crackling with a global lifeforce . At this moment we have the collective buying power, thought power, or energy in general to clear the national debt. We number in the tens of millions in online real-time.

      What if we were all connected by the keywords we stored in a personal profile, and could be reached by other members, on the fly, who broadcast keywords that matched the ones in your personal set? In real-time.

      Your potential just became limitless because the entire community was at your finger tips the moment you broadcast your message. ~And this was free to you. Period.

      Whatever, I am just one ant -the only ant apparently, who is tired of Google's antiquated, limiting, business model.

      Remember what I am telling you about Google's business model. It will look like a horse and buggy compared to what's coming. You will be just as angry when you realize you were only given one choice.
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