what happened?

15 years ago

There was a thread here about this but it was deleted. I imagine this thread will also be deleted.

Needless to say he is not looked upon favorably by the powers that be.

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cypherslock

15 years ago

But why? As I saw it he gave solid info. Sure he was also selling but that's what we do. I'm just wondering if there's a way I can get in touch with him as he did offer to help me get set up.

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cypherslock

15 years ago

And the admin is ok with this? Please....There is more than enough money out there for all of us. So, how can we get in touch with him?

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mlmmentors

15 years ago

Since I do not have his permission to give out his contact information if you want to get in contact with him do a search for his name on Skype or on Google.

Theresa

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cypherslock

15 years ago

I certainly hope not! In any case I've got him on Facebook and Skype, I was just surprised at how fast and COMPLETE the nuke was. I've been banned once before for 7 days for self-promotion (wasn't thinking at the time, completely my fault) but wasn't removed, so whatever it was, he must have done something REAL bad.

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Mary Green

15 years ago

He might be regular at PPC Coach, have you looked for him anywhere else?

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Zeus66

15 years ago

I don't know the guy, but I did buy one of his WSO's earlier this year and it turned out to be full of deceit and nonsense. Completely unworkable because of a fatal flaw in the resources he suggested. A bunch of us went round and round with him, and he never gave a satisfactory answer, just a lot of excuses.

Anyway, I don't know if this had any bearing on it at all, but my one experience with the dude was definitely not acceptable.

John

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mentorondemand 15 years ago

I guess it's time for everyone to go back
over forum rules.
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- XShardx 15 years ago
  
  I'm sorry to hear about this but I've learned to expect things like this in the marketing world. I don't know the whole story but I do know that people, by nature, tend to be threatened by competition so I could buy into mlmmentors story. But, ultimately, no proof has been provided concerning any of this... even Zeus66's tidbit.
  
  One thing we have to remember is forums in general, no matter how much people preach about "the community" aspect, are dictatorships. The reigning dictators appoint sheriffs and your stature in "the community" relates directly to your relationship to the sheriffs and the dictator. In addition, a lot of people tend to give weight to those who have higher post counts... like because an individual has posted more than others they are automatically an expert.
  
  I've come to value this forum as a great resource for information on things that I am interested in and like to contribute to and learn about. Unfortunately, however, that doesn't make this forum any different than any other forum on the internet with respect to its sociology. The vast majority of forums all suffer from these same inherent troubles.
  
  My advise... be careful who you believe without solid proof... especially when dealing with a crowd of people that make their livings by convincing others to take certain actions.
  
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webatomic

15 years ago

Doesn't he have an email address or website or something?

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brp002

15 years ago

Is this the $100 dollars a day for adsense guy?

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mlmmentors

15 years ago

Xshardx, this is not "my story". This is the brief explanation Stephon gave on his CPV coaching call Friday afternoon.

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XShardx 15 years ago

It was, however, a story you conveyed.
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webatomic

15 years ago

Those of you that bought his PPV coaching, was it worthwhile or a scam or what?

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TonyV

15 years ago

Don't buy it. I specifically asked him in 3 PM messages prior to buying if he would be there to give me some one on one time as I am a total newbie to PPV. He said yes, took my money, then sent me an email stating he couldn't offer me any one on one time. My request for a refund has been ignored for a week as have been my emails. I wouldn't be asking for a refund if I wasn't totally new and I laid that all out on the table BEFORE buying and he agreed. He took the money and ran.

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timpears

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TonyV

Don't buy it. I specifically asked him in 3 PM messages prior to buying if he would be there to give me some one on one time as I am a total newbie to PPV. He said yes, took my money, then sent me an email stating he couldn't offer me any one on one time. My request for a refund has been ignored for a week as have been my emails. I wouldn't be asking for a refund if I wasn't totally new and I laid that all out on the table BEFORE buying and he agreed. He took the money and ran.

Don't sit on this Tony, you must have paid via PayPal I assume. Hope that you used a credit card, but as long as you didn't use PayPal funds, do a charge back. If Stephon is ignoring you, he obviously isn't planning on refunding your money. If you don't leave it too long, the bank or credit card company will give you your money back. If you used PayPal balance, then don't waste your time as they are worthless as far as getting your money back is concerned. I have learned to never leave money in my PayPal account and never use anything but my plastic when paying through PayPal, that way you can get your money back if you get crap for a product.

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TonyV 15 years ago

Tim,

I rarely leave money in my Paypal account but that was the case in this instance. I am happy to say that Phon contacted me this morning and cleared things up. He forwarded me a bunch of emails to validate he was in fact trying to reach out to me all along. So it was a mutual misunderstanding, a little lack of better communication, but at the end of the day, everything is cool now.
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mlmmentors

15 years ago

I was simply relaying the explanation that was given to me.....no worries.....I deleted it.

Theresa

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XShardx 15 years ago

Theresa,

I didn't mean to come off the wrong way. I was just simply citing that the information came from you... hence "your story". I sincerely apologize if I miscommunicated the point I was trying to make.

Best Wishes... Brandon
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timpears

15 years ago

Tony, glad to hear that. It is funny but every time I find that I don't keep to that scenario I outlined in my post, something bad happens. The last time I screwed up I lost $399. O well, it is only money.

But I am glad that Stehon came through. He seems like an ok fellow, but I never know how to take him. He strikes me as a little on the edge. But as long as it worked out for you, then all is ok. He was an interesting fellow, sorry to see that he got booted.

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webatomic

15 years ago

I learned the hard way. I used my paypal funds to pay Stephon based on the fact that he offered me a 90 day mbg. His coaching involved methods I was already using for the most part, with the exception of some minor variations which I tried and weren't working. I asked him for a refund and he basically told me to f*** off. So I'm screwed. Stay far, far away from this guy imo.

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webatomic

15 years ago

God I feel like such an idiot. I guess in the back of my mind I thought I could always issue a paypal dispute, but I guess you can't with a service. Buyer Beware!!!

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webatomic

15 years ago

Well what ticked me off is that I was reluctant to pay him until I got him to commit to a money back guarantee (which I have saved in our archived IM discussion) and he said several times that he offers a 90 day money back guarantee. Then today when I asked him for it, he said I wasn't getting it because I didn't spend enough time trying to apply his methods. Well I was bleeding money with his methods and they were all methods I had tried and abandoned in the past anyway. So it felt very dishonest to me, not to mention the fact that some of what he said in his webinars was factually incorrect, like it costs 1.00 for a thousand pops on Media Traffic. He was off by a factor of 10. I'm out $247 and feel very cheated. I should have gotten a clue from the fact that he was booted off of this forum.

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dropship

15 years ago

There's always a reason that someone gets banned. The admins don't just ban people for doing nothing wrong.

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dropship

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Maxwell

The admins are not GOD and don't have perfect moral absolutes, sorry to disappoint you.
I believe the story I read. It happened to me, so why couldn't it happen to him.

Where is this story you refer to?