Surly CPA marketing can't be this easy!

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I wrote one article a few weeks ago. I created a blog with a link to the article. A few social bookmarkings. Created a simple landing page with the typical CLICK HERE now stuff and that's all I have done. My EPC is 0.46 and I am making around $30 a day on autopilot. That is all there is to it. Piece of cake. The only costs involved on my part is the generic domain name and hosting I use for all my CPA landing pages. It's almost to easy.

To all newbies out there, don't complicate things. Follow those simple steps and it is impossible not to make some money
#cpa #easy #marketing #surly
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      I see you are from Canada. I am from England but live in Canada. I haven't had any succes with any Canadian offers yet. They just don't seem to convert very well for me. 90% of my income comes from the U.S





      Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post

      Do tell more....
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      • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        I see you are from Canada. I am from England but live in Canada. I haven't had any succes with any Canadian offers yet. They just don't seem to convert very well for me. 90% of my income comes from the U.S
        Yeah, 90%+ of by income comes from outside Canada. I took CAD currency off one my site since I was doing soo little a while ago even though I am in Canada.

        Is this the first time you have done CPA? If you dont mind sharing exact details, please message or send a PM to me.

        Thanks,
        Mukul
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        • Profile picture of the author bravo75
          I will get back to you later Mukul. I am heading over to Smitty's for my Sunday drinking session.
          Will get back to you later



          Originally Posted by Mukul Verma View Post

          Yeah, 90%+ of by income comes from outside Canada. I took CAD currency off one my site since I was doing soo little a while ago even though I am in Canada.

          Is this the first time you have done CPA? If you dont mind sharing exact details, please message or send a PM to me.

          Thanks,
          Mukul
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    By the way, that is just one CPA offer. I am running about 20 of them at the moment. And I think testing an offer through article marketing is a good method to see if the offer converts or not. When I find a gem using this method, I fire up a campaign with bing and the PPC campaign is usually succesfull after some tweeking
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    • Profile picture of the author CPAmojo
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      By the way, that is just one CPA offer. I am running about 20 of them at the moment. And I think testing an offer through article marketing is a good method to see if the offer converts or not. When I find a gem using this method, I fire up a campaign with bing and the PPC campaign is usually succesfull after some tweeking
      This is where many people new to CPA fail. They start blasting paid traffic to a brand new offer blind to the fact that it might not convert. I've seen it many times where people complain they spent $20 in traffic and no sales.

      Always test offers! Always track!

      Scale up when you find a high converting offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author havefunandlive
    I've always been interested in CPA marketing, but they require you to have been in IM for a certain amount of time before they'll accept you.
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Simple solution. Get to know a few terms like PPC, CPA,PPV call up the CPA network and tell them you have been doing IM for about a year and that you are part of other CPA networks. Mention Commision Junction. Tell them you will be driving traffic using PPC with Bing and Ask search engines because Adwords is to tricky for CPA offers. This will show them that you are familiar with search engines. Nine times out of ten this will get you approved. If you don't know what you are talking about, at least pretend you do. A lot of the Affiliate managers don't know their arses from their elbows



      Originally Posted by havefunandlive View Post

      I've always been interested in CPA marketing, but they require you to have been in IM for a certain amount of time before they'll accept you.
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    • Profile picture of the author DebbieV
      Originally Posted by havefunandlive View Post

      I've always been interested in CPA marketing, but they require you to have been in IM for a certain amount of time before they'll accept you.
      Not really. I got accepted into 2 networks last week with almost no experience in IM. You have to be honest on your applications and be confident as well.
      Don't give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author Todd-O
    Thank you for this uplifting post from a CPA newbie! We always tend to overthink things when we're new and we need to keep it simple. I would like to know if anyone has some hints or tutorials on how to make a good landing page that is suitable for a CPA campaign?
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Now, when I was a newbie and someone said they simply did some "social bookmarking," I really was unclear on what that meant. I had an idea, but not sure.

    So, for the newbies, what exactly did you do for social bookmarking? What sites did you use, and what did you do at those sites?

    I think that would help some reading this topic.

    Good job, by the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Join Senuke and blast the heck out of every article.


      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      Now, when I was a newbie and someone said they simply did some "social bookmarking," I really was unclear on what that meant. I had an idea, but not sure.

      So, for the newbies, what exactly did you do for social bookmarking? What sites did you use, and what did you do at those sites?

      I think that would help some reading this topic.

      Good job, by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    YES, cpa is easy. Imagine if you repeat that same process 10, 50, 100 times. Yes, of course not every campaign will be as easy as that, but the point is, find something that works, then just multiply it like little bunnies.

    When newbs first start they think their is some secret sauce that all the big hitters are using. Yes, the big hitters may have prop software, but the process is the same.

    Glad to hear of your success.

    Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom318
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      YES, cpa is easy. Imagine if you repeat that same process 10, 50, 100 times. Yes, of course not every campaign will be as easy as that, but the point is, find something that works, then just multiply it like little bunnies.

      When newbs first start they think their is some secret sauce that all the big hitters are using. Yes, the big hitters may have prop software, but the process is the same.

      Glad to hear of your success.

      Ken
      Still seems like secret sauce to me
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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        The secret is traffic. If you are going into CPA, you are in essence becoming a traffic broker. Think of it this way: If you get 10 new customers to your local butcher, he might give you a free steak or a rack of ribs. You are exposing his business and attracting customers. Same thing with CPA
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom318
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          The secret is traffic. If you are going into CPA, you are in essence becoming a traffic broker. Think of it this way: If you get 10 new customers to your local butcher, he might give you a free steak or a rack of ribs. You are exposing his business and attracting customers. Same thing with CPA
          So you write an article, create a blog that links to it, people go to the blog, click on the link, end up at the article.. but where does the landing page with the "click here now" stuff fit in?
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          • Profile picture of the author TommyG
            Originally Posted by Tom318 View Post

            So you write an article, create a blog that links to it, people go to the blog, click on the link, end up at the article.. but where does the landing page with the "click here now" stuff fit in?

            Simplify it.
            You write an article with a link to your blog. People go to your blog, read your post and then click on your CPA link, not your article link. This is no different than setting up a site as a Clickbank product affiliate. It's just a different product.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    The hardest part of traffic brokering is tracking. That stuff gives me bleedin' headache
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  • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
    Congrats on your success! Having a small taste of success can do so much for your motivation. I think what a lot of affiliates get hung up on is that they want to have one really BIG thing (campaign, product, etc). I've known quite a few people who put all their eggs in one basket and work a campaign until they are making a lot of money from it. The problem is, they haven't developed any other skill set so if they get banned by AdWords, or their niche dries up it's back to square one. The affiliates I know who are successful year after year (which is harder than making a bunch of cash real quick) are the ones who are constantly expanding their business and repeating what works.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimmer551
    Can you show us the landing page you used for your CPA offer?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      If I showed you the landing page, I might as well jump ship and scrap the campaign altogether.



      Originally Posted by kimmer551 View Post

      Can you show us the landing page you used for your CPA offer?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukinara
    uhm, pretty interesting, I have to hire some people with senuke service to try this ASAP
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Articles usually get ranked pretty fast without bookmarking or linking. But by bookmarking them, they tend to stick around (first page) longer




      Originally Posted by yukinara View Post

      uhm, pretty interesting, I have to hire some people with senuke service to try this ASAP
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Why would you want to hire someone?


      Originally Posted by yukinara View Post

      uhm, pretty interesting, I have to hire some people with senuke service to try this ASAP
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Allen
    Yes CPA networks do work. I am a member of 4 CPA networks. Although I haven't made any money yet I still believe this is one of the sure ways to make money.

    Probably after a few more weeks I should be receiving some leads and will be getting paid for them.

    Oliver Allen
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I have done seven figures in IM for over five years now in several different niches

    I periodically look into CPA and try to sign up for one of the CPA networks.

    Instantly there are huge red flags. They want to call me and waste my time. They want me to jump through hoops to join their network. Everything screams "SCAM" and it seems like they are in the adult industry or something even seedier.

    I'll probably try again in another six months with another network. I know I won't be approaching any of the "honest joe", ringing off the hook telephone after 50 times of saying "don't ever call me again" jerks at any of the major networks I have already tried.

    I just don't have the stomach to deal with people like that.

    Why do the CPA networks act so sleazy? Are they involved in a lot of quasi illegal things like the online pharmacy, adult industry and online gambling groups? Their annoying approach makes me lump them all into the same group because they all act the same way.

    You mentioned CJ. They are one notable exception. They have a lot of CPA offers, but no matter what, I am always declined automatically from all of them. At least CJ doesn't act like an organized crime syndicate when it comes to CPA though like every other CPA network I have looked into.

    What's up with that?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      It would appear to me, that the CPA networks somehow know how successful you are and literally begging you to join their networks. I am a member of 9 different networks and have never been bothered by annoying calls. But then again, I am not driving 100.000 visitors a day to their offers, which makes me somewhat insignificant.


      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I have done seven figures in IM for over five years now in several different niches

      I periodically look into CPA and try to sign up for one of the CPA networks.

      Instantly there are huge red flags. They want to call me and waste my time. They want me to jump through hoops to join their network. Everything screams "SCAM" and it seems like they are in the adult industry or something even seedier.

      I'll probably try again in another six months with another network. I know I won't be approaching any of the "honest joe", ringing off the hook telephone after 50 times of saying "don't ever call me again" jerks at any of the major networks I have already tried.

      I just don't have the stomach to deal with people like that.

      Why do the CPA networks act so sleazy? Are they involved in a lot of quasi illegal things like the online pharmacy, adult industry and online gambling groups? Their annoying approach makes me lump them all into the same group because they all act the same way.

      You mentioned CJ. They are one notable exception. They have a lot of CPA offers, but no matter what, I am always declined automatically from all of them. At least CJ doesn't act like an organized crime syndicate when it comes to CPA though like every other CPA network I have looked into.

      What's up with that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      The hardest part of traffic brokering is tracking. That stuff gives me bleedin' headache
      Yes and imagine the old days when there werent these great tracking software platforms...I cant imagine because I'm not that old...at least I tell myself that :rolleyes:


      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      If I showed you the landing page, I might as well jump ship and scrap the campaign altogether.
      Oh c'mon, can you at least tell me your best keywords! Please

      Originally Posted by Tom318 View Post

      Still seems like secret sauce to me
      Try and get yourself out of that mindset and this may help give you more success. Focus on the basics and as they say...get er done.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I have done seven figures in IM for over five years now in several different niches

      I periodically look into CPA and try to sign up for one of the CPA networks.

      Instantly there are huge red flags. They want to call me and waste my time. They want me to jump through hoops to join their network. Everything screams "SCAM" and it seems like they are in the adult industry or something even seedier.

      I'll probably try again in another six months with another network. I know I won't be approaching any of the "honest joe", ringing off the hook telephone after 50 times of saying "don't ever call me again" jerks at any of the major networks I have already tried.

      I just don't have the stomach to deal with people like that.

      Why do the CPA networks act so sleazy? Are they involved in a lot of quasi illegal things like the online pharmacy, adult industry and online gambling groups? Their annoying approach makes me lump them all into the same group because they all act the same way.

      You mentioned CJ. They are one notable exception. They have a lot of CPA offers, but no matter what, I am always declined automatically from all of them. At least CJ doesn't act like an organized crime syndicate when it comes to CPA though like every other CPA network I have looked into.

      What's up with that?


      Good post, hopefully I can add some here. The truth is that there are many scammy networks with awful offers, but they generally dont stick around for long. There are also very great networks with great offers.

      With that said, a majority of the problem stems from the affiliates, not the networks. Many affiliates do real shady stuff and deceive people and scam people into fulfilling their offers. The networks are trying to weed these creeps out and thats why it may seem like you are jumping through hurdles to get accepted.

      Most of the reputable networks dont do any adult offers, gambling offers (some do bingo) or pharmacy products. Most are legit offers.

      I understand exactly where your attitude and perspective come from. I almost jumped ship when I very first started but I gave it more time and realized that the industry isvery wde and you can really approach it in whatever way fits you best...you can be dirty and unethical or you can go 100% straight up legit.
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      • Profile picture of the author pokerdawg
        For all of the newbs out there, don't give up hope.

        There is a lot of $$$ to be made in CPA offers. I had one offer I ran with for about 4 years that brought in $45k-$60k/month with a 50% margin (I spent $20k-$25k/month on PPC to make that). But it was on auto-pilot. Months could go by without me looking at it and the checks came in (I used my own bid management software to automate the bidding, so I truly could ignore it). No, I'm not selling an auto-pilot program, and no, I'm not telling you what vertical or program or keywords.

        I wouldn't recommend ignoring it - that was stupid. I could have made 10-30% more putting in "some" time on it. The glory of PPC and automation

        Will any newb make $ like that? No. Heck, I won't on most new offers. Times have changed, bidding rules have changed, offers change. But if you're smart and fly under the radar, making $1,000/month on 20 offers = $240k/year. Be happy.

        Here's my free tip of the day:
        - start small
        - bid low
        - bid obscure

        Pick a niche (such as dog training), pick obscure keywords (do NOT bid on "dog training") and bid low (try for rank 5-8). You will stretch your dollars, bring in less traffic each day, but what comes in will be cheaper. That means more clicks (and potentially more sales) for each dollar spent.

        And for goodness sake, do NOT bid for number 1 ranks on all of the popular keywords. If that's what you want, just go buy a lottery ticket... your odds will be a whole lot better.

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    • Profile picture of the author bioshift
      try neverblue, they let me in a year ago when I started. They're known as one of the better ones. I just joined qwikmedia too, not sure how great this one is. They let me in cause I have a few handfuls of websites...

      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I have done seven figures in IM for over five years now in several different niches

      I periodically look into CPA and try to sign up for one of the CPA networks.

      Instantly there are huge red flags. They want to call me and waste my time. They want me to jump through hoops to join their network. Everything screams "SCAM" and it seems like they are in the adult industry or something even seedier.

      I'll probably try again in another six months with another network. I know I won't be approaching any of the "honest joe", ringing off the hook telephone after 50 times of saying "don't ever call me again" jerks at any of the major networks I have already tried.

      I just don't have the stomach to deal with people like that.

      Why do the CPA networks act so sleazy? Are they involved in a lot of quasi illegal things like the online pharmacy, adult industry and online gambling groups? Their annoying approach makes me lump them all into the same group because they all act the same way.

      You mentioned CJ. They are one notable exception. They have a lot of CPA offers, but no matter what, I am always declined automatically from all of them. At least CJ doesn't act like an organized crime syndicate when it comes to CPA though like every other CPA network I have looked into.

      What's up with that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Avatarix
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      I have done seven figures in IM for over five years now in several different niches

      I periodically look into CPA and try to sign up for one of the CPA networks.

      Instantly there are huge red flags. They want to call me and waste my time. They want me to jump through hoops to join their network. Everything screams "SCAM" and it seems like they are in the adult industry or something even seedier.

      I'll probably try again in another six months with another network. I know I won't be approaching any of the "honest joe", ringing off the hook telephone after 50 times of saying "don't ever call me again" jerks at any of the major networks I have already tried.

      I just don't have the stomach to deal with people like that.

      Why do the CPA networks act so sleazy? Are they involved in a lot of quasi illegal things like the online pharmacy, adult industry and online gambling groups? Their annoying approach makes me lump them all into the same group because they all act the same way.

      You mentioned CJ. They are one notable exception. They have a lot of CPA offers, but no matter what, I am always declined automatically from all of them. At least CJ doesn't act like an organized crime syndicate when it comes to CPA though like every other CPA network I have looked into.

      What's up with that?
      Don't lump ADULT industry into SCAM. None of us would be making any money online if the adult industry had not come online first. I was working at earthlink in dial up sales back 1996 and most people came online because of the adult industry not to email grandma. The traffic stats speak for themselves.

      Adult is why we have decent video Tech. And the top adult companies do more for their affiliates than any non-adult company I have seen. And they pay on time like clock work. So just because something is adult does not make it a scam. If you don't like Adult Content fine. But don't put down the industry that was the MAJOR force behind the growth of the internet and online video technology.

      In fact the biggest scam was all of the money from Wall Street that went into "Mainstream businesses" and then they went out of business. When the adult companies where the ONLY companies making money online.

      It always T's me off when people put the ADULT industry down when NONE of us would been making a dime if they has not come online first. The internet was around for quite a while and the web got it's push from Adult, just as VHS killed beta becuase sony would not allow adult on the beta format, and HD DVD died becuase Sony wised up and said Adult is allowed on Blu-Ray this time.

      And Adult affiliate programs are the easiest to sign up for, they do not make you jump though hoops and are more than willing to assist you in your efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author janicejan
    Thanks for the great tip mate, I'll am also working on it right now. I do agree that articles ranks well by itself, we don't need to go through a lot of link building process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rahulperry
    The way you have written. CPA sounds too easy to do. But actually it isnt.
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      The hard part is finding an offer that converts well. There is a lot of trial and error involved in this game. It is just the nature of CPA marketing. Keep prodding away and you will find a little money maker eventually, I guarantee it

      Originally Posted by Rahulperry View Post

      The way you have written. CPA sounds too easy to do. But actually it isnt.
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      • Profile picture of the author Burtgummer
        Are you using a directory like Ezine Articles? Or smaller directories? I know Ezine has the rank, but they are getting seriously difficult to deal with (I stopped paying for Premium about 2 months ago due to their unorganized editing team).
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by pokerdawg View Post

        For all of the newbs out there, don't give up hope.

        There is a lot of $$$ to be made in CPA offers....

        Here's my free tip of the day:
        - start small
        - bid low
        - bid obscure

        Quality tip. Too many news try and hit home runs outta the park before learning how to hit grounders. Have big dreams, but be realistic in your steps to achieve those dreams.

        Originally Posted by Rahulperry View Post

        The way you have written. CPA sounds too easy to do. But actually it isnt.
        If you are willing to put in the work, yes it isnt rocket science. I admit I am not the smartest cookie, but I take action and that speaks louder than brain power in this industry at least. Just think that there are many kids in high school pulling huge huge numbers...that speaks for itself

        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        The hard part is finding an offer that converts well. There is a lot of trial and error involved in this game. It is just the nature of CPA marketing. Keep prodding away and you will find a little money maker eventually, I guarantee it

        And then once you find a money maker optimize it and try and find sister money-makers. Try and ramp up that money maker and try and breed them like little bunnies, meaning try to rinse and repeat the same process. 30 different ways of making $50 per day = $1500 per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author smaxor
    There's two facets to this business whether you're doing SEO or PPC or anything else.

    1. Proof of concept. Ie. doing small tests to see if something will work and can be profitable. The key to testing proof of concepts is to think about part 2 before you get started.

    2. Scale up.

    We don't touch or consider anything without considering these two things to start. Scalability is the most important to me. Then you just do some proof of concepts to see if it's a viable option. Once you get your test metrics back then blow it up as the plan described. Hit it hard and fast before someone catches on to what you're doing and make as much money as you can. Before long people will find out what you're doing, copy you scale optimize and shrink margins/traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author jf786
    I wrote an article, however don't know much about marketing it and making any money, would anyone offer any guidence? Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author timber
    congrats on your sucess, I'll have to wait until my lifetime ban expires before I can compare I guess...
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Well, I'm on the process of sending applications to CPA companies right now.

    I know I can be successful with these offers the same way I am clever with list building. And the short experience I have with PT offers tell me go go go. I am converting 4-10 out of 100 visitors in a low paying offer: $1,50 per email lead.

    Guess I can apply that knowledge to grab higher leads

    Now the question is, will they accept my applications?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Why shouldn't they? Just get on the phone to them and tell them you are going to kick ass

      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Well, I'm on the process of sending applications to CPA companies right now.

      I know I can be successful with these offers the same way I am clever with list building. And the short experience I have with PT offers tell me go go go. I am converting 4-10 out of 100 visitors in a low paying offer: $1,50 per email lead.

      Guess I can apply that knowledge to grab higher leads

      Now the question is, will they accept my applications?
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  • Profile picture of the author oscarkool
    Yes, this works well and it especially works well when you catch a trend that no one else is hitting.

    Are you doing this with email submits or have you been having luck with higher paying offers? All I do are CPA offers at the moment but it's been slow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richgirl
    Hi, so let me see if I've got this right....
    You join a CPA Network, pick a campaign,
    write a SEO article relating to it which links to your (free?) blog, once your article hits front page of google you get people clicking on it, which leads them to your blog, where they read an article about how great your CPA offer is, and hopefully complete the CPA offer?

    So if you have a decent offer and get front page of google, how much per day could you expect to make from this one set up (lets assume it pays $1 per customer)?
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  • Profile picture of the author Richgirl
    Hi, let me see if I've got this right?
    So you join a CPA, choose an offer, write a relevant SEO Article which links to your (free) blog, submit it, get it ranked, then people read your article, click through to your blog, read your post and complete your CPA offer?

    Doing this on say a $1 a lead offer, if you were front page of google, what kind of realistic daily income could you expect to get from that one offer in say a mainstream interest niche (trying to work out how many you would need to make decent money!)?

    Thanks for the very interesting thread/post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Richgirl
    Sorry peeps, my internet crashed and I thought it hadn't posted....
    either that or I'm losing the plot, also entirely possible!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    I agree completely, the simplest strategies work the best. Rinse and repeat!
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  • bravo75,

    Question for you. How do you capture the name and email before they are taken to the offer and have their information transfer over to the landing page that the offer is being promoted on? Also, are you direct linking or redirecting through your .com? Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff S
      Originally Posted by selfmademillionaire View Post

      bravo75,

      Question for you. How do you capture the name and email before they are taken to the offer and have their information transfer over to the landing page that the offer is being promoted on? Also, are you direct linking or redirecting through your .com? Thanks.
      Weird, I just answered this question in another post...here you go:

      1. Make sure that your offer on your CPA network allows for "pre-pops" which means pre-poplation of data (email in this case).
      2. Next, visit the landing page of your offer to see what it look like, and then you need to make your landing page visually similar
      3. Where ever it makes sense on your landing page, you put in an email capture form. Here's the trick....you can generate this form from AWEBER (I'm sure other email systems do the same) and then simply paste their HTML into your landing page. ** As you're creating the form in AWeber, there's an option to "Pass Form Data" which means the data captured on the AWEBER form will then "pass" through the URL.

      4. Next, you need to modify the CPA link to pass that data...here's how.

      Your normal CPA link looks something like this:

      FakeCPAoffer.com/index.asp?subid=whatever&em=passedemail@gmail.com

      So let's look at this structure:

      the "subid" is a way for you to track your traffic..you can put in keywords, traffic source like CPV/organic/etc.

      the "em" variable in this case is the email that you captured in Aweber and passed to this offer landing page. Some CPA networks use "e", some "email", you just have to ask them.

      When the page loads, the "passedemail@gmail.com" is pre-populated on the offer landing page which makes it one less step that separates you from your commission.

      Hopefully that helps get you started in the right direction...let me know if you have questions

      - Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    I don't really do any squeeze page stuff with this method (maybe I should). Visitors to the article are directed to a smiple LP. CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT HOW takes them to CPA offer. Hope that helps. This really is internet marketing in its simplest form and it won't make you rich but it defianetly works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Green
    Everyone says jump in but if you were starting today knowing what you know

    1. What affiliate network would you start with
    2 What niche or offer
    3 Do you use a program like PPC Speed to help submit or do it manually

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      1. If you are serious about promoting CPA offers, you should join several CPA networks so you can can rotate offers or change the network if a offer expires and you are getting good traffic to your Page.

      2. checking Google trends is on my list of daily things to do. Some days I can't find anything that I could promote CPA offers with. Other days I will find 2 or 3 topics to write about and I usually get a good amount of traffic.

      3. I used Senuke in the past but find it a little pricey although it is very useful. I bookmark and backlink manually now. Once you have a plan of attack you can whizz through this daunting task. I usually watch Family Guy while doing this.

      Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

      Everyone says jump in but if you were starting today knowing what you know

      1. What affiliate network would you start with
      2 What niche or offer
      3 Do you use a program like PPC Speed to help submit or do it manually

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author bioshift
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        Once you have a plan of attack you can whizz through this daunting task. I usually watch Family Guy while doing this.
        Nice! gotta love it!
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      • Profile picture of the author bioshift
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post


        2. checking Google trends is on my list of daily things to do. Some days I can't find anything that I could promote CPA offers with. Other days I will find 2 or 3 topics to write about and I usually get a good amount of traffic.
        What do you look for when you analyze the trends? do you just look in the top 20 hot searches? or do you type in kws that relate to cpa offers like ipad? and then do you look for a certain amount of volume? like 100 or 150 Im guessing that is measured in 1000s?

        What can you tell us about the Gtrends?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Fox30 View Post

      I agree completely, the simplest strategies work the best. Rinse and repeat!

      Yes, I think this is the most overlooked strategy. Once you find some system that works, just repeat the freak out of it and multiply your profits that way. Some times scaling is hard or imossible to do depending on the campaign, so why not just try and repeating the same system many many times. Works wonders!


      Originally Posted by BG48 View Post

      Everyone says jump in but if you were starting today knowing what you know

      1. What affiliate network would you start with
      2 What niche or offer
      3 Do you use a program like PPC Speed to help submit or do it manually

      Thanks

      1. There are many. I would try and get into a handful of the reputable ones as their service and affiliate managers are very helpful. Neverblue, CXdigital, Maxbounty etc

      2. There are many and it depends on the traffic. Dating offers are generally solid or try short forms which should be fairly easy to convert.

      3. I used SpeedPPC which saves boatloads of time...like a real lot of time. Can do manually at first if low on budget because software is normally not cheap.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cash37
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        Yes, I think this is the most overlooked strategy. Once you find some system that works, just repeat the freak out of it and multiply your profits that way. Some times scaling is hard or imossible to do depending on the campaign, so why not just try and repeating the same system many many times. Works wonders!





        1. There are many. I would try and get into a handful of the reputable ones as their service and affiliate managers are very helpful. Neverblue, CXdigital, Maxbounty etc

        2. There are many and it depends on the traffic. Dating offers are generally solid or try short forms which should be fairly easy to convert.

        3. I used SpeedPPC which saves boatloads of time...like a real lot of time. Can do manually at first if low on budget because software is normally not cheap.
        There are free sites that do what Speed PPC does for free, but you have to use multiple sites
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      • Profile picture of the author bobhenry
        hey!!!!
        thanks 4 d great knowledge u had shared , surely work 4 me ,,,,,,,,, one thng i would like 2 ask ... i m realy luking 2 apply 2 dese cpa networks,my native country is india ........do they accpt indians on dese cpa networks? guide me......

        thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author constant
    nice tips thanx
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  • Profile picture of the author JustMint
    That's wicked - a nice clear explanation of starting out - love it!
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Hi guys, I appreciate all the thank you's. But there is a little thing called a thank you button that you can hit and the more people do this, the more it makes me look like a super ultra guru.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Bravo --

    There ya go buddy, I did m part. I dont like the term guru, but if you want to be known as one, good on you!
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Ha ha Cheers man. I was using the term jokingly. I have a long way to go before becoming a guru. If anyone is a guru around here it is you. It's a funny thing, when you help others, somehow you are helping yourself at the same time. I think just being part of a community and engaging with other like minded people is a important part of internet marketing. Communication. That's it, I am practicing my communication skills

      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      Bravo --

      There ya go buddy, I did m part. I dont like the term guru, but if you want to be known as one, good on you!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        Ha ha Cheers man. I was using the term jokingly. I have a long way to go before becoming a guru. If anyone is a guru around here it is you. It's a funny thing, when you help others, somehow you are helping yourself at the same time. I think just being part of a community and engaging with other like minded people is a important part of internet marketing. Communication. That's it, I am practicing my communication skills

        Bravo...you seem like a chill guy, but please dont EVER call me the g word. Thanks man haha.

        And yes, helping others always pays dividends for yourself. Its pretty crazy how many stories you hear of somebody who helps somebody else out in the beginning and that person goes on to make it huge and then the two people partner up in the future.

        Of course, this isnt the goal of selflessly helping others, but its certainly a pretty sweet side effect!
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  • Profile picture of the author glide21
    like your attitude mate, none of the gimme 7 bucks and i'll teach your granny to suck an egg. checked your article, bloody bril, Dickens. you got 10 times more views than i got on ezinearticles over 5 months. must be the zappa sh)()(&^&t. and i did push the damn thank you button, so you look like the coolest dude in warriortown.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Sweet side effect indeed. After all, we are all in this to make a few bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Hi Cash37 -- Yes, as is generally true with most software out there, whatever the software does can normally be done manually or using multiple sources. The point of getting software is normally to streamline and make your processes as effective and efficient as possible. Time means a lot, maybe not when you are first starting, but it becomes increasingly more valuable so any time saving system also becomes more valuable as you build your business.

    When people first start out they shouldnt be using tools like speedppc, statsjunky, lpgen etc especially if they are on a small budget but when you have the capital, you should always be looking to re-invest in your business on software and systems to save time, streamline, and ultimately optmiize your business.


    Cash37, thanks for sharing, do you have the list of sites readily available to share so others on this forum can use...think it would be very helpful!
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  • Profile picture of the author ecrisc45
    Hi there warriors,

    I'm from the Netherlands and just gone trough and get accepted in a few CPA networks (after trying for 3 weeks) that was a big challenge and I can say that I've overcome it and I now how to do that now, ones you have don 1 or 2, you get more confident and it just flows from there and I have to say afterwards it was easier than I thought. But the real big challenge for me is how can I really make money where do I begin??? When I look in the list of the offers they have, man!!! There is so much so overwhelming.
    Does anyone has a tip on how to choose to right offer to and how Etc

    Thx in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author vickeyr
    that blog marketing for you...

    dude outsource it to guys at odesk for more results
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

    I wrote one article a few weeks ago. I created a blog with a link to the article. A few social bookmarkings. Created a simple landing page with the typical CLICK HERE now stuff and that's all I have done. My EPC is 0.46 and I am making around $30 a day on autopilot. That is all there is to it. Piece of cake. The only costs involved on my part is the generic domain name and hosting I use for all my CPA landing pages. It's almost to easy.

    To all newbies out there, don't complicate things. Follow those simple steps and it is impossible not to make some money
    sounds like you got lucky, keep doing it and if the profit continues all the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Bravo man, rinse and repeat the heck out of that process man. Go nuts, do it like 400 times...for real!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr_Lauri
    bravo75, Kenster great posts... I got some nice ideas from your posts! Thanx!
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonHicks
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      From one campaign. Anyhow, $30 a day is about $10,000 a year.

      Originally Posted by JasonHicks View Post

      Your saying it's too easy because your making $30 a day? lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colton
    Nice bravo, I've been following a few of your recent cpa post and I'm coming up with some good new ideas. It always seems so hard for me to actually get started on it. Did you do a lot of keyword research for this article to take off like it did?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Just a Google Trend, mate. If you get in early enough with a red hot trend, you can get thousands of views to your article in couple of days. Article directories usually get a lot of search engine love for new articles, which is why articles are ideal for Google Trends/Cpa offers. I have to add though, that sometimes you get lucky as well.

      Originally Posted by Colton View Post

      Nice bravo, I've been following a few of your recent cpa post and I'm coming up with some good new ideas. It always seems so hard for me to actually get started on it. Did you do a lot of keyword research for this article to take off like it did?
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  • Profile picture of the author macchiavelli
    Your method is great for newbies.
    $30 a day on autopilot is amazing, imagine if you had 10 blogs doing that for you!
    Great job.
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  • Profile picture of the author glide21
    Hey Bravo, thinking of emulating your method as it's the only sensible one I've seen here (got quite a few WSOs , all junk). Can you please tell me what your CTR on the article is and what is the conversion rate? Cheers mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colton
    What the heck??? Why did Bravo get banned???
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    • Profile picture of the author glide21
      Originally Posted by Colton View Post

      What the heck??? Why did Bravo get banned???
      Galileo perhaps?
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      • Profile picture of the author Colton
        Originally Posted by glide21 View Post

        Galileo perhaps?
        Galileo????
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        • Profile picture of the author glide21
          Originally Posted by Colton View Post

          Galileo????
          As in banned by the Church for claiming the earth is round and spins around the sun
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
    Alright, I seem to be having a little bit of trouble understanding this whole method even though everyone else seems to get it, lol.

    From what I gather:

    1) Find a hot keyword trend
    2) Write an article based around this keyword
    3) Find a related CPA offer
    4) Write a blog post related to the CPA offer, or reviewing the CPA offer

    Now I'm not sure where to go. Do the articles all link back to the blog, and readers click through to the CPA landing page from the blog, or do the articles link directly to the CPA landing page from the author signature box?

    If it's the latter, then what's the point of linking the blog to the article? Also, do you social bookmark the article or the blog post?

    Yes I'm a newbie at this, lol... and thanks for any help!
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    • Profile picture of the author glide21
      Originally Posted by mkmossop View Post

      Alright, I seem to be having a little bit of trouble understanding this whole method even though everyone else seems to get it, lol.

      From what I gather:

      1) Find a hot keyword trend
      2) Write an article based around this keyword
      3) Find a related CPA offer
      4) Write a blog post related to the CPA offer, or reviewing the CPA offer

      Now I'm not sure where to go. Do the articles all link back to the blog, and readers click through to the CPA landing page from the blog, or do the articles link directly to the CPA landing page from the author signature box?

      If it's the latter, then what's the point of linking the blog to the article? Also, do you social bookmark the article or the blog post?

      Yes I'm a newbie at this, lol... and thanks for any help!
      You can't link directly to CPA offer from most article directories, so need to go back to blog.
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      • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
        Originally Posted by glide21 View Post

        You can't link directly to CPA offer from most article directories, so need to go back to blog.
        Great thanks .
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  • Profile picture of the author vigneshrajesh
    thanks for this useful post
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    thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankBowman
    You can't link directly to CPA offer from most article directories, so need to go back to blog.

    Actually you can..........just buy a .info and redirect. EZA even tells you how in there FAQ section
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  • Profile picture of the author osazzz
    big lessons for me here
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  • Thanks for the advice Cpa is a dream for most internet marketers, and is considered a lot easier that promoting other affiliate offers. With the quality landing pages and copyrighting its ideal
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yes, I like to think CPA is the golden child of affiliate marketing!

    CPA of course has its downsides such as offers continually being taken down and replaced or taken down altogether. Payout terms are sometimes long, etc.

    But CPA in my opinion is much easier to convert than typical CPS marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Yeah, I wish the offers would stick around a bit longer. I have to delete discontinued offers and replace them on a daily basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
    Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

    I wrote one article a few weeks ago. I created a blog with a link to the article. A few social bookmarkings. Created a simple landing page with the typical CLICK HERE now stuff and that's all I have done. My EPC is 0.46 and I am making around $30 a day on autopilot. That is all there is to it. Piece of cake. The only costs involved on my part is the generic domain name and hosting I use for all my CPA landing pages. It's almost to easy.

    To all newbies out there, don't complicate things. Follow those simple steps and it is impossible not to make some money
    Bravo75
    You make it look simple,but for a new person like me it looks difficult.

    1- Can i have one generic domain name ,and use that domain name for multitude of CPA offers.?
    2-Do you use redirect script,is your blog on same domain or on say blogger etc.
    3-is it a good idea to directly link to offer (from article to offer),but what happens then if offer is stopped?
    see not simple for us --makes me confused.
    looking forward to your answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author gotteeth
    @ Bravo75

    I hit the "Thank You" button...

    A couple questions...

    1. From the point you've described in the original post in this thread, how would you recommend scaling?

    2. What resources would recommend for someone who WILL take action but needs to learn the basics of CPA? I have profitable experience in other parts of IM but I'm always looking to diversify, CPA is my next target.

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author warfore
    Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

    I wrote one article a few weeks ago. I created a blog with a link to the article. A few social bookmarkings. Created a simple landing page with the typical CLICK HERE now stuff and that's all I have done. My EPC is 0.46 and I am making around $30 a day on autopilot. That is all there is to it. Piece of cake. The only costs involved on my part is the generic domain name and hosting I use for all my CPA landing pages. It's almost to easy.

    To all newbies out there, don't complicate things. Follow those simple steps and it is impossible not to make some money
    So the linking scheme is blog -> article -> LP? Driving link building to the article (in a directory) for it to rank. Not sure I understand the role of the blog. Is it to add link juice to the article? Sorry if the question seems dumb.:confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author DougSanderson
      I think it is article > Blog (which has the LP).
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  • Profile picture of the author Seantrepreneur
    Would this method also work with landing pages that are provided for you from your network or do you suggest creating your own?

    Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author zenji
    Great tips I have learnt from you today
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlsbadd
    Nice work Bravo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny12345
    Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

    I wrote one article a few weeks ago. I created a blog with a link to the article. A few social bookmarkings. Created a simple landing page with the typical CLICK HERE now stuff and that's all I have done.
    I'm unclear about a couple things...

    1) You said you linked from a blog to an article. Did you really mean that you linked from an article to a blog post (with a cpa link)?

    2) You also mention your "landing page." Isn't the blog your landing page?

    Thanks,

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author Mukul Verma
    I was doing some CPA and guess what???

    I was over complicating it!!!!

    I got a notification on this thread and what a good reminder to stop making it complicated.

    Sometime my better idea gets in the way of making it work. Back to simplify it.

    Cheers,
    Mukul
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