How Much Do You Earn From CPA Offers

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Was wondering how much everyone else currently makes from cpa offers at the moment I would average around $1200 each month.
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  • Profile picture of the author trelog
    Thats profit right? If so well done, Im currently new to cpa, so nothing much yet, care to share wich cpa network you are working with?
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    • Profile picture of the author nicesurf
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  • Profile picture of the author nebuer
    Right now with CPA offers I'm making $2000 profit / month. I'm only experimenting with this right now though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    If you want to get to the big time profits ASAP you may want to look into working with a coach. I'll tell you that 10-20k+ a month with CPA is definitely feasible. You really need to think outside the box w/ CPA. You can make a TON with ppc and CPA but you'll need the capital and the knowledg of ppc.

    I'm not doing cpa at the moment but when I get back into it my numbers will be somewhere between 10-20k/month if not more...and yes that is profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nirusan
      Originally Posted by Kyle L Hannah View Post

      If you want to get to the big time profits ASAP you may want to look into working with a coach. I'll tell you that 10-20k+ a month with CPA is definitely feasible. You really need to think outside the box w/ CPA. You can make a TON with ppc and CPA but you'll need the capital and the knowledg of ppc.

      I'm not doing cpa at the moment but when I get back into it my numbers will be somewhere between 10-20k/month if not more...and yes that is profit.
      Are you talking about paid adverstising only? How about free methods, are they any good for getting CPA results?
      Do I have to engage in PPC to earn money with CPA?
      Any hints are highly appreciated.

      thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author Denise Hall
    I don't make much with CPA, maybe $50 - $100 a month. But I only recently started dabbling with it and I don't have much time to devote to tweaking my promotions. I just started using a pay-per-click medium (not Google) and it's too early to tell how profitable it will be.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    Nirusan,

    No not just paid advertising and no you don't need to engage in ppc to make out very well in ppc. As I stated in my post you really need to think outside the box when it comes to cpa. And I know that really doesn't give you any hints or help.

    PM me and I can recommend you a couple good ebooks to take a look at it so you'll have some better understanding.

    If you've got the money to spend, then looking into a cpa coach isn't a bad idea either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Derekis
      Originally Posted by Kyle L Hannah View Post

      Nirusan,

      No not just paid advertising and no you don't need to engage in ppc to make out very well in ppc. As I stated in my post you really need to think outside the box when it comes to cpa. And I know that really doesn't give you any hints or help.

      PM me and I can recommend you a couple good ebooks to take a look at it so you'll have some better understanding.

      If you've got the money to spend, then looking into a cpa coach isn't a bad idea either.
      Hi Kyle, you suggested hiring a cpa coach. What are the charges like?

      Does it have to be face to face coaching?

      I'm not residing in the US for that matter.

      Kindly advise.

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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post


      What do I earn from CPA? Not sure I want to open up that can of worms! lol

      i'm curious............. open it Luke lol!
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  • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
    Hi i feel great too see the posts!
    in fact i might have posted sth similar in another thread looking for sharing and helps
    Im doing CPA without any significant result for months. I need to start low as i do not have capital into investment like PPC, tho i can see its potential. Yet i have no back ups to lose and get burned.
    Any suggestion of advise or even methods u can share/sell/mentor me?
    Will appreciate feedbacks from you guys, and im open for PMs too if you think you have any good methods that work for you, and u can take me as an referral to duplicate ur system etc . If i have enough capital, i would seek for coaching
    Im open and Im rly in need to earn money!
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author johnapuna
    last year I made a few thousand a month. I had an incentive site though
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    • Profile picture of the author Denise Hall
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      One...MILLION dollars...


      I found this in my couch:


      That is my attempt at a joke to avoid the question. lol



      Love that answer! LOL

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  • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
    anyone offering any coaching service here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vocalines
    Hello everyone,

    I am new to CPA and I am curious to know more about this Cost Per Action.

    Can you please (anybody?) recommend any resource you think is valuable? (eBook, video, course, coach..etc.).

    Thank you

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by Vocalines View Post

      Hello everyone,

      I am new to CPA and I am curious to know more about this Cost Per Action.

      Can you please (anybody?) recommend any resource you think is valuable? (eBook, video, course, coach..etc.).

      Thank you

      Alex

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      Luke - his coaching is WELL worth the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author enrikole
    luke, have you sold an ebook on how to make money like you are with cpa networks??
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  • Profile picture of the author cashola
    $1200/mo is fantastic. You're well on your way. I'm not going to get into how much I make now, but just to let you know what's possible my first month with CPA offers I did $5K, $15K the second month, $30K the third month, and it grew from there. These are gross numbers; it was about 60% profit.

    I primarily use paid traffic, mostly PPC and some CPV. Now I have some organic traffic going as well. It's all a matter of finding the offers that convert and then scaling them up.

    I hope this helps. Keep up the good work jamieblake.
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  • Profile picture of the author Iamnotherenow
    From July to September I made $40,000 using a blackhat method that I developed. I stopped this month to mentor others. I don't wanna do my method anymore because i want to build a long term business. Most blackhat methods are short term. Although I was able to make money with my method off and on for about a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Sample
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    • Profile picture of the author fastcart12
      Earned almost $2 today! Wheew, there is life beyond adsense!
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  • Profile picture of the author rose64
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    It depends on efforts i put it every month.
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    • Profile picture of the author cosmeivan
      There's a well reconigzed member of this forum that thas a website in his sig. that has a malware when redirected to the blog section.... :confused:

      Even G0ogle alerted me of the malware but I said "wtf, g0ogle.." I ignored the alert and then my antivirus aborted the connection because of the malware trying to infest my PC.

      It's a shame that someone so respected has to use those methods.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      OH boy, here we go with someone and this. lol. I should have guessed this would come up. Someone spouting off who doesn't have a clue.

      That well respected member is me, and maybe you have never run a high profile blog before. If you haven't, and are lax on your security settings (I AM because I hate bullcrap extra security) then you are going to get bots posting malicious code on tmhere fro time to time.

      So NO, I did not post a virus on my blog! Good lord. Give me a break. Have you never run a blog before that was attacked? In fact, it has been this way for a little while now, I just haven't had the time to fix it nor pull my guys from a job to get it fixed.

      So please why don't you think a little bit or ask me first before acting like I'm trying to infect everyone's computer with a virus. You have to be kidding.

      Geez Luke. You post a Doctor Evil picture and now trying to take over the world by killing our computers via your blog. You are a criminal mastermind.

      You should feel pretty good. That was their first post and it was aimed at you.


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  • Profile picture of the author TheAtHomeCouple
    There are plenty of ways to earn money with CPA offers and free traffic - the trick is to have a kick ass landing page, and diversify your traffic stream.

    1. Use Wordtracker or equivalent keyword research to find high traffic/low competition short and long-tail key phrases within the offer's niche.
    2. Use this list of keywords and phrases to create "how-to" and other pillar style articles and submit them to ezine articles (1 article a day for 2 weeks).
    3. Rewrite those same articles and create an informative Squidoo lens with several strategic contextual links to your offer or domain.
    4. Comment on niche related blogs with your domain in the signature.
    5. Participate in niche related forums with your domain in the signature.
    6. Being outspoken and controversial does work sometimes for short boosts of traffic, but be weary when using this method.
    7. Visit Yahoo answers and look for niche related questions, answer them and put your domain that is either redirecting straight to the offer, or to a pre-sell info/review style page.
    8. You can try Craigslist depending on the offer.
    If you were to strategically combine all of these methods above, in an organized fashion, tweaking as you go along you would have a nice focused stream of free traffic, and providing that focused traffic is going to a great landing page with a high converting CPA offer you could be making an extra couple hundred, even couple thousand dollars depending on how much you work at it.

    Remember - free traffic takes time! If you are willing to invest it, there's tons of it available!
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    • Profile picture of the author agentmulder412
      Originally Posted by TheAtHomeCouple View Post

      There are plenty of ways to earn money with CPA offers and free traffic - the trick is to have a kick ass landing page, and diversify your traffic stream.

      1. Use Wordtracker or equivalent keyword research to find high traffic/low competition short and long-tail key phrases within the offer's niche.
      2. Use this list of keywords and phrases to create "how-to" and other pillar style articles and submit them to ezine articles (1 article a day for 2 weeks).
      3. Rewrite those same articles and create an informative Squidoo lens with several strategic contextual links to your offer or domain.
      4. Comment on niche related blogs with your domain in the signature.
      5. Participate in niche related forums with your domain in the signature.
      6. Being outspoken and controversial does work sometimes for short boosts of traffic, but be weary when using this method.
      7. Visit Yahoo answers and look for niche related questions, answer them and put your domain that is either redirecting straight to the offer, or to a pre-sell info/review style page.
      8. You can try Craigslist depending on the offer.
      If you were to strategically combine all of these methods above, in an organized fashion, tweaking as you go along you would have a nice focused stream of free traffic, and providing that focused traffic is going to a great landing page with a high converting CPA offer you could be making an extra couple hundred, even couple thousand dollars depending on how much you work at it.

      Remember - free traffic takes time! If you are willing to invest it, there's tons of it available!
      Now THIS helps. I was running a site with school-related CPA ads, and am embarrassed to say how little I made (well under three digits per month gross... came out to be negative net). Once I had affiliates and everything set up, I just couldn't figure out how to effectively sell afterwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author greendesert
    Does PPC-Coach provides guidance for CPA ? I thought its only for PPC marketing. Anybody can clear this please ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
      Originally Posted by greendesert View Post

      Does PPC-Coach provides guidance for CPA ? I thought its only for PPC marketing. Anybody can clear this please ?
      I am a member of PPC-Coach and they teach you how to make money with CPA Using PPC
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      • Profile picture of the author ZenTraveler
        Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

        I am a member of PPC-Coach and they teach you how to make money with CPA Using PPC
        How would you review PPC-coach and your personal success with making money online after joining the program?

        (sorry if you already answered this elsewhere and I overlooked it/forgot)

        Peace,
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  • Profile picture of the author cosmeivan
    Hello, I just came back.

    Luke, sorry if I used the wrong words for this. You are right, someone else may have put the malicious code in your blog, my bad.

    I just wanted to read the blog, don't know how the h*ll Google intervened my connection and showed me that advice, weird. So, will you fix the blog anytime soon?.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author msjudged_1
    cumulative for Sept. $1000.00 between a few networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author kento57
    What do I earn from CPA? Not sure I want to open up that can of worms! lol
    That is my attempt at a joke to avoid the question. lo
    Why is it a can of worms and why trying to avoid the question?
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    • Profile picture of the author VulcanMan750
      Good grief!

      When are people gonna realize that money and incomes are all relative. Not everybody does Internet Marketing to make a full time income.

      You probably could have phrased you question a better way, such as: It's my goal to make "X" amount of money with CPA, is this possible?

      You still get your question answered without offending everyone.

      Just a future suggestion.

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  • Profile picture of the author mmmariap
    Wow, am I ever impressed by the figures being tossed around this thread. I'd consider myself lucky to make even $1, which I have yet to do
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    • Profile picture of the author kento57
      Maybe you haven't been around enough to understand why that can cause problems and more troubles than you need.
      I guess I haven't. What problems and troubles would it cause? WRT students, the only problem that I can see it causing is that you wouldn't be able to attract any if you are not a big earner.

      Better to just keep your mouth shut for the most part unless you are providing some kind of inspiration, or proof of concept.
      Which relates to my comment above. Large coaching fee requires a large credibility element. Testimonials from students is part, but not all of that credibility factor. PM me if you are more comfortable disclosing in private.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by kento57 View Post

        I guess I haven't. What problems and troubles would it cause? WRT students, the only problem that I can see it causing is that you wouldn't be able to attract any if you are not a big earner.

        Which relates to my comment above. Large coaching fee requires a large credibility element. Testimonials from students is part, but not all of that credibility factor. PM me if you are more comfortable disclosing in private.

        Why are you pushing him?

        It isn't your or anyone else business what he makes. Why would anyone tell that type of information on a public forum is beyond me. The only reason people spout off their earnings is to sell something. I am talking when people make higher earnings. Most do not.


        I still fail to see the logic of him stating his earnings as being credible. Anyone can make a blanket statement about how much they earn on the internet. His coaching students are more credible than him making a income statement. Would you also like to see his company and individual tax statements?
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    • Profile picture of the author webwiz
      One of the main reasons a lot of people are not successful making a living online is they focus on what other people are making instead of figuring out how to make money themselves. This question is an example of that. Why do you care what other people are making? Their money is not going to pay your bills.

      Also, once you make a decent amount of money the fewer people that know the better. So when I see anyone, especially on a public forum, spouting off about how much they make I tend to think two things. They probably don't make that much and if they did why would they tell the world? It doesn't add up.

      I tend to trust someone more like Luke who keeps that information to himself. He gave the perfect answer in that there is no benefit to answering that question. What other people make is not important. At least it shouldn't be. Focus on how much you make instead of what others make and your business will be headed in a much better direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author LivingCovers
        Originally Posted by webwiz View Post

        One of the main reasons a lot of people are not successful making a living online is they focus on what other people are making instead of figuring out how to make money themselves. This question is an example of that. Why do you care what other people are making? Their money is not going to pay your bills.

        Also, once you make a decent amount of money the fewer people that know the better. So when I see anyone, especially on a public forum, spouting off about how much they make I tend to think two things. They probably don't make that much and if they did why would they tell the world? It doesn't add up.

        I tend to trust someone more like Luke who keeps that information to himself. He gave the perfect answer in that there is no benefit to answering that question. What other people make is not important. At least it shouldn't be. Focus on how much you make instead of what others make and your business will be headed in a much better direction.
        You are right, webwiz but what about those PPC gurus like Amit and
        Anik who made $2.5million just last year and made mention of the amount they made?
        Do you think they sh'ldn't have mentioned it at all or what?
        As long as you are honest with how much you make online it's o.k to me since eventually you'll be helping a lot of people in exchange for their cash.
        Looks good and sounds good to me, though!

        Olatunde.
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        • Profile picture of the author webwiz
          Originally Posted by LivingCovers View Post

          You are right, webwiz but what about those PPC gurus like Amit and Anik who made $2.5million just last year and made mention of the amount they made?
          Do you think they sh'ldn't have mentioned it at all or what?
          As long as you are honest with how much you make online it's o.k to me since eventually you'll be helping a lot of people in exchange for their cash.
          Looks good and sounds good to me, though!

          Olatunde.
          Olatunde,
          That's how these so called gurus get new people to IM to buy their products. They tell you how much they made because that is one of their marketing hooks. What they fail to mention is how much their costs were to make that $2.5million. Any business has costs and sometimes those costs are very high.

          I used to live in a high dollar area of California and for years hung around and partied with the so called rich. I found the people who spouted off how much they made were usually trying to sell you something or just trying to get you to believe they were worth that much. These are people I stayed away from once any mention of money was brought up. Big red flag. What I also found was the people who didn't say anything were usually the ones with the big money. Definitely a pattern there. The real rich never talk about how much they make or what they are worth.

          Remember the comedian who said, "Here's your sign?" Well that's what I think of when anyone asks how much money do you make. Kind of says it all.
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    • Profile picture of the author kento57
      So telling you how much I make provides credibility? I don't think I've ever heard of that one before.
      Would you take stock buying advice from someone that has never made a dime in the market? Would you take advice on how to loose weight from someone that is fat?

      You are offering a service on how to make money. It's kind of obvious that you need to show that you can walk your talk.

      Why in the world would I PM you my earnings?
      To show that you can do what you claim to be able to teach.

      Let me explain this one more time. If you are a big earner and tell people you are either an arrogant jerk, or lying. I've never, once, ever seen somebody say...yeah, I make $500K/month on a forum and the responses were positive. (Not saying that is what I make, could be more, could be less )

      In other words...show me the benefit. In other words...show me the benefit.
      Again, the benefit is to show that you can do what you claim to teach. Again, PM me if you have an issue with a public posting. I swear I won't call you a jerk.

      The only person who would answer that would be someone trying to sell something just as you said.
      So you are no longer in the coaching business? No longer selling MySpace marketing info?

      His coaching students are more credible than him making a income statement. Would you also like to see his company and individual tax statements?
      The student comments help, company and individual tax would be a huge credibility boost.
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      • Profile picture of the author IMChick
        How much more direct do you need to be when telling someone to back off? I think Luke did a lovely job of it, but, of course, it was ignored.

        Don't be so nosey, his circumstances are not the same as yours, and frankly, are none of your business. Ever, for any reason.

        Move on.

        This thread is superb for culling the workings of the method out of it--get back on track--to the actual mechanics of how and stop worrying so much about other people.
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  • Profile picture of the author howudoin
    HI Luke,

    You have a point there.....

    I will surely believe that you make a lot of money from CPA if some of your students say so.

    So do you have any students on WF which can backup your claims?

    Also about your coaching, I did not see any sales page or order button. Am I missing something or have you not put those in your signature?

    Bhupinder
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    • Profile picture of the author kento57
      Why in the world would you believe me if I just told you my earnings? I can tell you any number I want and that would provide credibility? Your logic makes 0 sense. In that case, I make $400 billion/month. Am I know credible to you? I would hope not because of that line.
      I understand that sales people can lie. Testimonials can be faked also. I look at the whole picture to decide if the risk is worth it. If the offer, on whole seems credible enough for the risk. You have indicated you have no problem with taking advice from someone that doesn't demonstrate that they can do what they claim to be able to teach. I do. I guess we just differ in that regard.

      Before your reason was "why would earnings be disclosed unless you are selling something". We've now established that you are selling something, but now your reasoning is, "I won't say because I could be lying."

      Your other reason was, "I would seem like a jerk". That has already been addressed by using PM.

      I'm just curious as to why the reluctance to disclose information that you readily disclose from your clients, namely earnings?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by kento57 View Post

        I understand that sales people can lie. Testimonials can be faked also. I look at the whole picture to decide if the risk is worth it. If the offer, on whole seems credible enough for the risk. You have indicated you have no problem with taking advice from someone that doesn't demonstrate that they can do what they claim to be able to teach. I do. I guess we just differ in that regard.

        Before your reason was "why would earnings be disclosed unless you are selling something". We've now established that you are selling something, but now your reasoning is, "I won't say because I could be lying."

        Your other reason was, "I would seem like a jerk". That has already been addressed by using PM.

        I'm just curious as to why the reluctance to disclose information that you readily disclose from your clients, namely earnings?
        I do find it strange you have a total of 4 posts and most, if not all, are directed at Luke and how much he is making.

        I think you have an agenda.

        Regardless of that agenda, he answered your question already. He will not disclose his earnings. You will have to accept it and move on. If you need to have earnings proof when selecting a coach than find another coach. I doubt very highly you will find a coach that will give you the type of proof you are asking. I know of no one who would let a complete stranger look at their tax returns.

        There has been a few of Luke's coaching clients in other threads that have expressed their happiness in his program.

        Personally, I will look up Luke next year and sign up when I am ready to dedicate all of my time to CPA. I would right now but don't have the time to really give it my attention and that would waste Luke's and my time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ethicaladvantage
    How much time on average is spent in man hours to develop enough business to pay the bills, and live off that income?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    Dude Kento, why should u care?

    Go create your own empire with CPA then come back here and tell us how much you're making so we can all go "ooohh" and "awe" ...:rolleyes:

    Make better use of your time...That's why a lot of people fail to make money online...Because they sit around and look at the one's who are really making it big, and never start doing it for themselves...
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    • Profile picture of the author kento57
      Just checked. All 4 of his posts...directed at trying to see what my earnings are. Makes you scratch your head doesn't it.
      I see a lot of rationalizations, avoidance, and excuses as to why someone offering coaching won't disclose how successful they are with the techniques they claim to teach. That makes me scratch my head.

      Dude Kento, why should u care?
      Because if I'm going to get training from someone, I'd at least like to know if they are competent at what they are going to train me on.

      Go create your own empire with CPA then come back here and tell us how much you're making so we can all go "ooohh" and "awe" ...
      It's not about posting a number just to impress the masses. It's about determining if a coach is successful in the subject matter.
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      • Profile picture of the author alex84
        Dude this is getting ridiculous. Are you telling me you would prefer to have his answer of I make 100k per month which could be false anyways instead of hearing from a few of his students that tell you they are making 100, 200 or $300 per day? That is a way better way to assess the skills of a coach IMO.

        You know some coach don't do anymore what they teach or are better at teaching than applying something themselves, does that mean you should discredit them right away? Your reasoning is absurd.
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        • Profile picture of the author kento57
          Are you telling me you would prefer to have his answer of I make 100k per month which could be false anyways instead of hearing from a few of his students that tell you they are making 100, 200 or $300 per day?
          And testimonials could never be false could they? Like I said before, it's the whole package that I look at.

          You know some coach don't do anymore what they teach or are better at teaching than applying something themselves, does that mean you should discredit them right away? Your reasoning is absurd.
          Fine, if he came right out upfront and said, "I don't do CPA anymore, I just coach" or "I'm better at teaching than doing" that would be one thing. Instead we get avoidance, excuses, and critiques on the number of posts I've made, as if that makes my concerns less valid. Follow the whole thread to understand what's being discussed before you dismiss my reasoning, dood.
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          • Profile picture of the author alex84
            If YOU read this thread and others carefully, you would see that there are some students of Luke on this forum that can vouch for his training, yet you are still focusing on his earnings. I think asking current students is harder to fake than simple testimonials, which I never mentioned about anyways.

            You still talk about how the earnings will show credibility when it is completely irrelevant. He is teaching others to make money with CPA, whether he is making some or not is not the question, the question is are his students making any money or not? If they are not, then he is not a good teacher, if they are then he is, simple as that. Even if he made $1000 or $50 000 per month, it all comes down to if his students are successful or not. Now instead of bugging him about his earnings, go ask his students and if your not happy with that, go find someone else.
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    • Profile picture of the author kento57
      You still talk about how the earnings will show credibility when it is completely irrelevant.
      Clearly you aren't following the discussion. Try once more from the beginning. You'll find that I stated that don't take weight loss advice from fat people. It's totally relevant to me if someone can do what they claim to be teaching.

      Kento, my answer doesn't matter anyway since I would not accept you into my coaching program. This gives you yet another reason you don't need an answer.
      I'm way past considering someone as evasive and excuse filled as you. Rather than addressing the issue, this last excuse reinforces your previous pattern.

      3 - If I was in Vegas, I would go all in with my hand, and say that I make more monthly than you have made in your entire IM career. A full house is usually a pretty safe play.
      Bad analogy Luke. You'd have to show your hand in order to with the bet. Obviously you're not willing to do that.

      Even at DP you were chased off due to similar issues of not being able to back up your claims forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=358029

      In light of your past scamming history and lawsuits can you really blame people for their skepticism?

      blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/02/12/google-dragged-in-to-piracy-spat/
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      • Profile picture of the author netcowboy
        I became a student of Luke's just a few short weeks ago, and after stumbling around in the dark for years his program quickly turned the lights on for me immediately and showed me a crystal clear direction.

        His coaching program is what every other coaching program should be modeled after because it is first class in every aspect. Every single student of his that I have talked with says exactly the same thing. Luke's program is priceless, yes, it's really that good. All I can say, Kento, is you just threw away the opportunity of your life.
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        "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach".
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  • Profile picture of the author proldani
    Come on Kento, people are solely responsible for their actions, and if you want to point your finger at what Luke has done wrong in the past, the only person you are convincing about Luke not being worth trust is yourself.

    Anybody who wants to find out about Luke and what he's done in the past can perform a fast search on Google or other search engines and find for themselves. If you are trying to make Luke look bad, you are wasting your time.

    Nobody needs your advice, and no one asked for it in the first place. If I perform a business transaction with Luke and it turns out to be not what I expected, no one but me is responsible for dealing with that. No one is asking you for money in order to pay for Luke's coaching either.

    In my opinion, this forum is filled with people who are able to perform their due diligence about any coaching, mentoring and training that's been offered here. You don't need to convince me or anybody about Luke's moral quality. You already convinced yourself about Luke not being a good coach due to his obscure past actions, so move on and provide some value to warriors, dude.

    In fact, you saved yourself some cash, given the fact that Luke will never get you accepted as a student. And if he doesn't want to tell you how much money he earns, just accept it and stop bashing him. You've just make yourself look like a moron.

    Yeah, Frank Kern was once chased by the FTC, and if you Google his name you will see some websites pointing to this major incident. Is this going to chase him forever? of course! did this incident prevent him from providing value to his customers, as he does now? of course not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      If you do anything is business, especially internet related, you will more than likely have someone blast you on forums and such. I had one person trying to do that to me on this forum. He tried to blackmail me telling me that he would continue telling people how I was not to be trusted. Luckily, I have many customers that backed me up.

      Kento is just out to get Luke. Pretty pathetic to be honest. I can see why he doesn't make any money.


      Maybe Kento should go back to DP. That has got to be the most worthless, scamming forum on the internet which makes it funny that Kento brought it up.


      Here is what I know of Luke. Luke has been on this forum for quite awhile. If he was scamming people it would have already come out. People here are not stupid and they talk to each other.

      Kento, on the other hand, had little posts and all are directed at Luke. He has no credibility and looks like a troll.
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      • Profile picture of the author kento57
        Anybody who wants to find out about Luke and what he's done in the past can perform a fast search on Google or other search engines and find for themselves.
        So I shouldn't provide links in my postings regarding someone that is openly soliciting business in their sig links because people can do their own research?

        Nobody needs your advice, and no one asked for it in the first place.
        And no one asked for yours either, but guess what? This is an open forum where people can post what they want. Further, I'm not offering any advice. I'm responding to Lukes posts and giving reasons for my beliefs.

        And if he doesn't want to tell you how much money he earns, just accept it and stop bashing him. You've just make yourself look like a moron.
        He's made it quite clear through all his excuses here and on other forums that he won't disclose his earnings. I totally accept that fact. From someone that self admitted to not have made a dime in IM in one of your previous posts, and someone that is defending a known scammer, you've got quite the balls calling me a moron.

        Yeah, Frank Kern was once chased by the FTC, and if you Google his name you will see some websites pointing to this major incident. Is this going to chase him forever? of course! did this incident prevent him from providing value to his customers, as he does now? of course not.
        Perhaps Luke has learned his lesson, turned a new leaf, and stays away from scams now. He does have positive positive testimonials, so that might be a good sign. If others are finding value in his offers, good for them and good for him. If you believe he is making $50,000 per month marketing on MySpace, and can't spend a few bucks to secure his blog or get someone to clean it of virus, well that's your choice.

        Maybe Kento should go back to DP. That has got to be the most worthless, scamming forum on the internet which makes it funny that Kento brought it up.
        Many people there have pretty good B.S. detectors. When Luke showed up looking for feedback on his $50,000 per month MySpace marketing offer, the detectors went wild and he quickly scurried back here looking for more a more lucrative environment.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Originally Posted by kento57 View Post

          Perhaps Luke has learned his lesson, turned a new leaf, and stays away from scams now. He does have positive positive testimonials, so that might be a good sign. If others are finding value in his offers, good for them and good for him. If you believe he is making $50,000 per month marketing on MySpace, and can't spend a few bucks to secure his blog or get someone to clean it of virus, well that's your choice.

          Many people there have pretty good B.S. detectors. When Luke showed up looking for feedback on his $50,000 per month MySpace marketing offer, the detectors went wild and he quickly scurried back here looking for more a more lucrative environment.

          There is a hell of a lot more scammers on DP. If your BS detectors were so good I doubt the scammers would be so plentiful there. Heck, even the site owner got busted for cookie stuffing. lol


          As for Luke's blog, I don't know what is going on there. I do know there is only so much time in the day. I know I concentrate of what is going to make me more money. A blog would not be high on my list.


          Maybe 50k a month is BS to you since you don't and can't fathom making it. There are a lot of people doing more than that.


          Why don't you go back to DP and troll there.
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        • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
          Originally Posted by kento57 View Post

          Many people there have pretty good B.S. detectors. When Luke showed up looking for feedback on his $50,000 per month MySpace marketing offer, the detectors went wild and he quickly scurried back here looking for more a more lucrative environment.
          Aight man....you are a loser and it shows. Go back to your negative little hole and curl up in a ball and fear the scammers.

          I've been with Luke for a short time now...I'm not making a huge amount (yet) but I am earning money.

          The method I was given is the most direct, useful and innovative advice I have ever received....and I have read/joined EVERYTHING.

          You aren't the only one who can do a Google search for his name. Sure...he has had a lot companies and businesses. Sure some of them have had trouble.

          I don't see that as the sign of a crook...I see that as the sign of a person who tries everything and gets off track sometimes in the process.

          I've had many, many offline businesses and you know what? All kinds of people call you all sorts of things and sue you for random stuff. It happens. Sometimes your Gov paperwork gets screwed up....it happens.

          That by no means is an indictment as to Luke's business intelligence or earning ability. That does not take away from his efforts to teach and help and provide a good living for his students.

          Keep losing loser. Go hide in your paranoid little hole.

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  • Profile picture of the author hlln
    Well I respect what people stated here. First of all I am off internet marketing for about 2 years. I don't need and do it anymore. There is one thing that I could share you all is that. People who call them selves "gurus" are actually not gurus. There is one special question you should ask your self every time you flip a page on the internet. "Why", like search engine optimization or CPA's always ask your self why. There is another fact you guys should understand, I have only know " 100 people" that are actually internet marketers. Those guys are behind the scene, and you can't see them sending optin mails or offers. Another thing that you all should learn especially Luke Sample. There is not term called Guarantee regarding to Internet marketing or even simple Marketing methods.

    There is not hidden secrets over the internet. Like who ever say "unrevealed secrets" understand that is totally a big lie. "Seeing the details = those secrets". The internet is a free source, go and fetch the information, its totally free.
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      this has gone on far too long. luke u owe NO ONE any explanations. if kento doubts your income, oh well. who gives a shit?

      kento- DON'T SIGN up. do us all a favor and stay away from the coaching program. matter of fact forget u ever heard of LUke Sample. he's a myth. he doesn't even exist. we made up that name and paypal email address and faked the testimonials to fool unsuspecting idiots, i mean newbies into sending US the money so we can go to strip clubs. i spend mine on bottles of moet and pour it on the girls. i also use that same money to buy high grade weed. [/sarcasm]


      Personally i signed up and i never asked how much luke made. this individual is majoring in a minor issue, tripping off dumb shit.

      YES i'm a Luke student.
      YES i'm making money. Gobs of it. I make enough money to support my shoe habit. I haven't made this much money this easily since I sold coke.
      and YES i am most certainly NOT telling any of your asses what I'm making. Just know that it's well NORTH of $1500/month and climbing. at this pace I'll be firing my job within a few months.





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    • Profile picture of the author David1948
      Hi Kenco57 I am a few posts just like you but I am pleased I have read this Thread all the way thru I would like to thank you on assisting me on the decision I have made which is to enrol in Lukes program, your attack on Luke is totally out of the spirit of the forum, you have deliberately attempted a character assassination on Luke and if you attempt to say it was for the good of his potential students Total BS you just can't stand to see success which Luke
      Undoudtedly is in more ways than one. His patience and calm thru out your interrogation
      was the mark of a great tutor or coach so thank you for your input.
      By the way I do believe there is another bean with 57 in it I believe it is Heinze57 and we all Know which part of the anatomy that makes you talk out of are you sure you have the correct spelling.

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      • Profile picture of the author Vshep
        Originally Posted by David1948 View Post

        Hi Kenco57 I am a few posts just like you but I am pleased I have read this Thread all the way thru I would like to thank you on assisting me on the decision I have made which is to enrol in Lukes program, your attack on Luke is totally out of the spirit of the forum, you have deliberately attempted a character assassination on Luke and if you attempt to say it was for the good of his potential students Total BS you just can't stand to see success which Luke

        < Cut some here to save ya'all some scrolling - Vshep >

        David
        I just want to thank all of you on this thread I am also thinking of joining now. But of course as it goes for the next few weeks I wont have a whole lot of time for anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author proldani
    Brendan, your post is one of the best I've read on this forum. You got such a great sense of humor, BTW!
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    brendan301 is it a Shoe habit or a Shoe Fetish?
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    • Profile picture of the author hlln
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      Luke this is funny, thanks for your reply. But first of all you should remember I don't do internet marketing anymore. So a six post figure should not give you an idea thinking that I am newbie. You should be aware that Guarantee is a tricky word used there , I never said the system its self is can't be guaranteed. I said you can't guarantee people to use the system and earn those figures. This is what I mean, so next time read it carefully. Your system may be guaranteed, but you can't guarantee people to earn that money. So that is a false marketing technique, I am sorry to say that its not a good choice of marketing.

      The next thing about the "secret terms" again you are wrong. Everything is free you just have the problem to go ahead and find it. Just tell me "what is the usage and the dictionary terms of Internet". Easy "wide network connecting users on basis of information that could be distributed freely". So you could understand that everything is free actually. So who ever says that there are secrets on earning revenue over internet marketing is totally lying. There is no such term called secrets, "you have to Digg your way". There is no special secret.

      PS...I know more than 100 guys who are truly making money online (not selling how to make money products). You must not be running in the right circles.

      Ok then tell me how many of them out of 100's know or use CRM or even basic B2B marketing. Its only fluff, I could easily say thay you don't know what CRM is "or maybe you think you know what CRM is" but you don't know it actually. As again there are only about 100 people around the world that has the criteria s of true marketing tactics implied on their internet marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author webwiz
        Originally Posted by hlln View Post

        Nikolaaa
        Good luck great offer !
        Hopping to see some ROI on your project promotion!
        This quote is from this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...tion-free.html

        Just curious as to why one of your seven posts would have you wanting an ROI with this WSO if you don't do internet marketing anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by SpudDS View Post

      brendan301 is it a Shoe habit or a Shoe Fetish?
      depends on the designer lol!
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  • Profile picture of the author hlln
    Luke Sample

    You just lost a star in your ranking. You don't even know what CRM Is "Custom Relation Management" you think that crm is formed from IT developed tools ? Lol! CRM is a philosophy if you don't know how to use and build that philosophy then you can't say you know CRM. CRM is not about tools, kiddo . Go and learn this first. Your statement is just like something like this :

    A corporation buys CRM tools "tadaa" now they are a CRM corporation. Lol just saying lol, kiddo for you to notice "I have worked with SAS / SAT / NAS do you even know what they are ? They are several tools of CRM , so don't teach my something that I have done for years. Luke one more thing what is your GRP I know what is mine I wonder what is yours. I think you have to get some experience, and a knowledge development urgently. I may have low posts here but it doesn't mean I am low experienced internet user am I ? You have a long way to learn by starting to talking about thing that you even don't know.

    Lol Luke, Why should I replicate you ? Your expressions and your knowledge shows your rates. Plus another thing sorry to say I have earned allot in the past so I don't need to invest again in IM. But even today it only takes me 24 hours and a one click to earn more than 10$K. I am here just to correct what you said. You have taken the thread to your "promotion of services". Which eventually i stand up here against you.

    webwiz

    I guess you are missing something here. What does ROI mean ? Rate of investment correct ? Well he invested time and money and effort on what ever he is selling and I know Nikolaaa from another place. So I wished him luck on his investment returns to happen soon. I don't do IM, but it doesn't mean to stop me learning "what most of you people do in general".

    +

    I am a f/ not a m/ so I would be pleased to be correcting that Luke.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
      Originally Posted by hlln View Post

      Luke Sample

      You just lost a star in your ranking. You don't even know what CRM Is "Custom Relation Management" you think that crm is formed from IT developed tools ? Lol! CRM is a philosophy if you don't know how to use and build that philosophy then you can't say you know CRM. CRM is not about tools, kiddo . Go and learn this first. Your statement is just like something like this :
      "Hey everyone...look at me! I am insecure and have low self esteem so I have to come online and pick fights with strangers so everyone else will see how brilliant I really am!"

      If you are so brilliant...go show it in real life. Why would you come online and argue with total strangers and talk big talk? All I see is a weak insecure person who makes herself feel better by trying to flex her mental muscles.

      If you have so much to offer...why not jump in and be constructive and help someone?

      I assure you...nobody here is impressed by your bravado. Kid.
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      Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

      (ROI) is Return on Investment.
      Ok smarty pants. What does GRP, SAS and LMNOP stand for? lol


      This thread gets funnier and funnier by the minute.
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    Gross Rating Point, Statistical Analysis System, a section of the alphabet
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Unfortunately, posting your income is like attracting bees to honey. Just look at all the blogs out there where guys are posting their income and they get elevated to super star status immediately. Seems like IM is the only business where you have the balls to ask another person how much they make. Would you ask your doctor what he makes per year? Would you ask your lawyer? Doubtful.

    It's a personal topic and if you don't believe in the person you're seeking out for coaching or training, then don't use them. Find some else who will post their income, *usually gross income as their net profit is minute in comparison, and use them. There's guys out there claiming to make $500k per MONTH yet they have a mortgage on their $250k house. That means their NET is dismal. But that's totally ignored because they make $500k and never reveal their 2.5% roi.
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    • Profile picture of the author hlln
      James Schramko

      Thank you for fixing my mistake, "return of investment".

      IMChick

      I have no personal issues with any one of you specially Luke. There are always buts though... Some of the people not specially around here have good knowledge on internet marketing but that doesn't mean they are "the master". I never said something like that, everyone has their own specialties on the terms of "point of view". To make things better we have to discuss what is behind the scene. I have experience on things that some may have here "can't know" but other has other expertise "on other things" that I don't have experience of. The only issue I hate to see is that "people talking about things they think they know, but actually they don't know anything regarding to that subject".

      PPC-Coach

      Thank you for your decent and qualified comment. As you can see "I posted my comment", nothing personal. I think we have the wrights to comment about something by simply judging their knowledge "if we have a experience on what they are doing". I don't what he is doing I don't care. I just posted my statement "comment in other words" referring to what he wrote about his service. "I don't have the wright to judge anyone If I haven't used his services". The matter of fact I didn't judge him, he took my words offensive and I used my wright to reply him. Again and again, not only me but anyone here if they have knowledge regarding to a subject "would you , or would you not post your comment ?" I guess everyone has their own answer for this "question".

      Thanks for your qualified response again.

      Daniel McCoy

      I am not going to even argue with you. I think you will understand the concept on yourself.

      Parker F. Fathi

      I am sorry to say you could imply "metrics & concepts" on your terms to everything regarding business. Remember you are doing e-business. "Marketing over internet / Custom Relations Management / Business to business / Business to customer / Production management etc etc.. All have a link in between. So I guess this could clarify your statement in general "you can imply it".

      Short statement to your ERP...

      ERP<CRM
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  • Profile picture of the author Flyingpig7
    Oh my golly thankyou for one of the funniest threads I've read today!
    Luke you gained my respect by not telling us what you earn that counts for a lot and I actually think it gives you great credibility. You are quite right ask a student what they think of their teacher and are your methods effective in building their a long term business. (Proof is in the pudding.....a British saying).

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  • Profile picture of the author candoit2
    I see lots of people wondering what Luke's students are saying and if they are making money with him.

    I can say I have not been making money yet after about 3 months, but I also think his coaching program is top notch.

    I can't get into details of the methods, but obviously there can be some challenges that vary from person to person based upon their ISP carrier, skills, and location.

    I can see inside the coaching area the kinds of questions and troubles others are having and see that it varies alot. There are so many variables.

    Personally I had so many difficulties. Actually basically everything recommended to me did not go smoothly. I would always have to have a session to resolve and find another way to work around an issue. The that wouldn't work either...(But would for others).

    I went like that for about 3 months before I had a week and a half of my time wasted by an outsourcer and got discouraged enough at last to take a break.(Not Luke's fault either, but discouraging)

    Even with all the fustration I have gone through there is no way I am removing myself from this coaching program.

    It's been a learning process and just seeing how a guy like Luke approaches the obstacles and preparing campaigns helps.

    If anything this thread has made me feel more ready to try again and not sweat the things that have been happening so much this time.

    Luke will teach you what you know, and let you learn at your own pace.

    Your ability to focus and how you respond to obstacles when things don't go smoothly(and things never go smoothly in CPA) is something you have to work on yourself.

    When I fisrt started i was pumped up and really excited about how much I could make. Then the obstacles gradually knocked the wind out of my sails.

    Now that I've taken a break I'll come back without being all hyped up, and not expecting such an easy time.

    I think if you come in ready to deal with whatever issues come up and have a realistic expectations of what it will take you should do well with luke's coaching.

    It will take some people longer than others but I believe you can make money with Luke's coaching.

    For what my opinion means...I have struggled and I have not made money, but I still love this coaching program and think Luke is a great coach.

    You'll have to try it and take him up on his guarantee. Personally I would rather keep the coaching and continue than ask for my money back. That is what I think of the coaching...

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  • Profile picture of the author hlln
    Luke..

    What ever.. I am not going to pump this thread to "you said / I said " condition...
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Ayres
      Originally Posted by hlln View Post

      Luke..

      What ever.. I am not going to pump this thread to "you said / I said " condition...
      I just hope you never want to work with any warriors in the future, because i think you have burned your bridges, I personally dont think many people would want to deal with you now after your outbursts on here.

      Good luck in the future because you will need it with an attitude like yours
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  • Profile picture of the author LeivaMatias
    I am one of luke samples students.

    I have learned an enormous amounts of techniques.

    Not only CPA marketing, business, personal growth etc.

    He is the ideal coach.

    I have bought many coaching programs, networked with many "gurus"... They really have nothing on Luke.

    All they gurus sell is a dream and hope, so you buy their product...

    Luke shows and teaches you exactly what he has done to create massive success using nothing but creativity and the simple rule of TESTING!

    I am one of his students who has gone through the adaptation my best day has been over $1,400 with CPA offers..

    It took me a matter of 3 weeks to implement and crack the secret code.

    By the way the secret code is simple: Follow the instructions and just ASK!

    -matias leiva
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by LeivaMatias View Post

      I am one of luke samples students.

      I have learned an enormous amounts of techniques.

      Not only CPA marketing, business, personal growth etc.

      He is the ideal coach.

      I have bought many coaching programs, networked with many "gurus"... They really have nothing on Luke.

      All they gurus sell is a dream and hope, so you buy their product...

      Luke shows and teaches you exactly what he has done to create massive success using nothing but creativity and the simple rule of TESTING!

      I am one of his students who has gone through the adaptation my best day has been over $1,400 with CPA offers..

      It took me a matter of 3 weeks to implement and crack the secret code.

      By the way the secret code is simple: Follow the instructions and just ASK!

      -matias leiva
      Stories like this is an inspiration and if Luke achieves this for his students then its no wonder why he is successful. With stories like this, there is no need for advertisments as referral marketing is probably the most powerful form of marketing.

      Luke,

      Looking forward to working with you and ill be in touch this week. Making a move right now, so been busy.
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      • Profile picture of the author LeivaMatias
        Originally Posted by MaskedMarketer View Post

        Stories like this is an inspiration and if Luke achieves this for his students then its no wonder why he is successful. With stories like this, there is no need for advertisments as referral marketing is probably the most powerful form of marketing.

        Luke,

        Looking forward to working with you and ill be in touch this week. Making a move right now, so been busy.
        He is Def. The top person for coaching..

        I have no regrets, and have learned an amazing amount of quality effective techniques..

        NOT JUST HYPE like all other "gurus" sell.
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    • Profile picture of the author candoit2
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      Aaron and Matias thanks for chiming in guys!

      Matias is rocking the socks off the coaching program. He is consistently pulling in those 4 figure days. $1,400 days (that's profit by the way) are definitely nothing to shake a stick at!

      Aaron is getting there and had many technical challenges. In fact, probably my biggest challenge to date. <b> Many of these were actually neither of our faults and most of it was completely out of my hands. </b>

      I can't repair computers remotely nor fix ISP problems.

      Also, we probably started a technique that was a little too advanced with Aaron, as I think he would agree he is quite the newbie when it comes to most things. But hey, we would much rather error on the side of being too informative than not so much. We will definitely get him there...always do.
      Luke, you should read your emails. Even your students cannot get ahold of you for weeks on end.
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      • Profile picture of the author J Bold
        Originally Posted by AaronJones View Post

        Luke, you should read your emails. Even your students cannot get ahold of you for weeks on end.
        Looks like he got on here and posted on the forum December 8, and before that November 25. Must be very busy. In the November post he said he didn't have time to get on the forum these days, and said he gets lots of PMs. I assume you send him emails to his real address if you're a student? Guess he doesn't have time to respond to all the PMs he gets on here. I sent him a couple thinking he's on every day and then I checked out his profile and these days he's not. I am quite interested in his coaching as the reports on here from many, many posters are very good, and I like the kind of figures he is throwing out. Guess I'll just have to wait...
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  • Profile picture of the author LeivaMatias
    Luke,

    I believe many people are looking for a GET RICH overnight deal.

    What they do not understand is the principles and structure of a business.

    I personally go to fast sometimes, and I thank you Luke for clearing things up and making me realize " Whats the rush"...

    Building a business is building equity and long term establishment.

    If you want to get rich overnight a job will do that for you, but seriously people need to understand and study what BUSINESS is really about.

    There are an enormous amount of backend/frontend things that makes a business successful.

    Here are a few:

    1. Relationships ( Man This is the biggest most profitable one)

    2. Self-Discipline ( Are you willing to fail?)

    3. Structure ( The $1,000,000 Napkin...)

    I learn this million dollar napkin trick from several people, if you CAN NOT write your business structure on a napkin you should not be in business.

    4. Systems (Systems work, people fail)

    5. Mentor ( Someone to support you who has already done it)

    The reason I have succeed with Luke is because he has done it before and now has passed on his knowledge and support to us students.

    -have the best day of life
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      • Profile picture of the author FeelingFree
        Well ... looks like there's been enough gas thrown on a few fires here and I should probably just let it fizzle out. But, what the hell ...

        I have something to say to Kento57, if you're still around. Here's my story: I have previously been very successful in an online venture. I had big (big!) money days. Problem was, much to my dismay, although I spent tons of time with the people who I brought into this particular program -- providing personal coaching to each one -- my success was not duplicatable. Much to my surprise, and a little to my horror. Particularly because this was the kind of program that provided all the tools, training, etc. so everything I did to help my team was above and beyond what was actually provided by the program itself.

        I eventually arrived at the point where I could not continue in that particular venture because I couldn't live with the nonsensical, illogical, no rhyme-or-reason levels of success. Everyone did the same thing. Some made a killing, others not. My passion for this venture continually declined as a result. Although the 20% success rate my people had is in IM reality probably not that bad. Wasn't good enough for me though.

        So, the point is: it doesn't matter how much money the 'teacher' makes, it's how the students flourish that matters. That concept has been nicely articulated by many people in this thread. However, I thought I'd throw a little personal experience into the mix in case that actually landed with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author teenmoney
    Originally Posted by webwiz View Post

    One of the main reasons a lot of people are not successful making a living online is they focus on what other people are making instead of figuring out how to make money themselves. This question is an example of that. Why do you care what other people are making? Their money is not going to pay your bills.

    Also, once you make a decent amount of money the fewer people that know the better. So when I see anyone, especially on a public forum, spouting off about how much they make I tend to think two things. They probably don't make that much and if they did why would they tell the world? It doesn't add up.

    I tend to trust someone more like Luke who keeps that information to himself. He gave the perfect answer in that there is no benefit to answering that question. What other people make is not important. At least it shouldn't be. Focus on how much you make instead of what others make and your business will be headed in a much better direction.
    Yes I agree. I don't know why people really care. You know people make 10's of thousands of dollars every month and even every week.

    You don't need to know the exact amount he makes per month.

    If you need proof of big earnings go to s.eriously.com

    Its great if you need inspiration we all do. Just dont pressure the dude.

    I also have a question for Luke.

    Is your coaching just PPC or do you do other types of affiliate marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author proldani
    You mean CPA. Luke does not cover PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author datingloot.com
    Some make nil and some make over $100K/month. As I see the only positive reason for asking is to find out what's possible. Yes, $100K+/month is possible. Who makes that? Less than 1% of affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author ElliotK
    hey all. new to this forum, so don't know what I'm jumping into with this thread. anyway, I recently got approved at HydraNetworks. Anyone using this successfully? Any tips?
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    • Profile picture of the author sprezzatura
      That's cool that you guys are making money so quickly. I've been in cpa for about 6 months now, lost a lot of money and learned the hard way through trial and testing.

      Today, I'm doing over $400/day. I spend about $200/day in adwords.

      Spending 200/day actually is a little scary for me so I made a whole bunch of tools to constantly monitor and track everything. I have it set up so that if my ROI drops below a certain point, like it does during some times of the day, it pauses my google adwords campaign and sends me an IM through yahoo - I used to have it do sms but it was annoying to have it beep every few hrs. If you guys know any programming you should look into implementing something similar.

      Also, I have a script that rotates cpa offers automatically then starts showing the offer that converts best based on the current traffic.
      For example, if people come from google bidding 'date girls in NY', my page will display offer 1 and if they bid 'date single girls tonight' it will show offer 2, both of which are determined based on 100 clicks or so.

      Good luck to those that took the initiative.

      If anyone needs help expanding their cpa income, PM me, I'll do what I can to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author desmondchui
    just wonder one day i can achieve the success.
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  • Profile picture of the author allb450
    Seems like a big range in what people are making.
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  • Profile picture of the author jatt
    I would say that I'm bad at CPA. But people said that we must choose the best CPA that suits our website or blog. That's the key.But still i never get a dencet income from CPA
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  • Profile picture of the author webguru
    Luke I sent PM to you about coaching, but no reply?
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  • Profile picture of the author takis49
    guys, on a long term basis, in my experience.. its more interesting to work on social network, or surveys.. and their referral systems!!
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Right now I make over $100 online. Oh yeah!
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  • Profile picture of the author theceo
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    I think porn pays the best.....if you want to go that route. I've heard like $35-$55 per sign up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    Hello Everybody,

    I have been following this thread pretty carefully, I have a list of loyal plasterers not a massive list say of about 500 what cpa could I use? I am very new to this so simple answers would be good....

    also anybody need a student I will split profits..... I actually will!!

    Cheers

    Danny
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    • Profile picture of the author Alvin
      Can anyone recommend a couple of good ebooks on PPC for CPA? Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      Hello Everybody,

      I have been following this thread pretty carefully, I have a list of loyal plasterers not a massive list say of about 500 what cpa could I use? I am very new to this so simple answers would be good....

      also anybody need a student I will split profits..... I actually will!!

      Cheers

      Danny

      hey danny,

      what are some things that plasterers are interested in? do they have common hobbies? based on your response that'll give me an idea of what offers to promote to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ElliotK
    The Arbitrage Conspiracy Report by Aymen specifically covers this information. After he spent years and many hundreds of thousands of dollars, I believe he has put togther the best system, software, and tools to learn about becoming a power PPC player through the CPA networks. So, lots of info on CPA and PPC is forthcoming. Start by signing up to list at [Blog.Make100kADay.com] for newsletters on this topic. You can also download first Report there. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Iamnotherenow
    I'm up to $700 per day
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by Iamnotherenow View Post

      I'm up to $700 per day
      How much is white and how much is blackhat? Using PPC? PPV? Banners?
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  • Profile picture of the author kimdion
    If you are trying to get started and don't have a clue don't feel bad you are not alone.

    Writing articles
    Creating a Blog (blog network)
    Classified Ads

    when you buy an affiliate product use you affiliate link to get the discount and make sure that you get a refund if it does not work for you.

    It will take time to make money online with any product unless you do ppc and have a good converting product.

    I am doing articles..I have heard one guy is making $5,000 a month just writing one article a month.

    Pay Per Click can be expensive and when promoting others products you have to make sure their pages is converting.

    Hope this helps....

    When I do make some money I am going to give away all the secrets for free!

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    • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
      Originally Posted by kimdion View Post

      when you buy an affiliate product use you affiliate link to get the discount and make sure that you get a refund if it does not work for you.

      Kim Dion
      I don't think that's very ethical :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author J Bold
      Originally Posted by kimdion View Post


      I am doing articles..I have heard one guy is making $5,000 a month just writing one article a month.

      Kim Dion
      Yes, and I've heard Donald Trump is a billionaire. Not really helpful unless you know exactly how he does it and if it's something you can tap into as well.

      You didn't make money yet? And what you're promoting is to make $11,000 in an hour? So why aren't you?

      As to Raven's unethical comment, I think it's only unethical if you just don't want to try out what you buy, and don't put forth effort. But, if the product is BS which is absolutely possible in this business, it's ethical in my opinion to get your money back.
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      • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
        Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

        Yes, and I've heard Donald Trump is a billionaire. Not really helpful unless you know exactly how he does it and if it's something you can tap into as well.

        You didn't make money yet? And what you're promoting is to make $11,000 in an hour? So why aren't you?

        As to Raven's unethical comment, I think it's only unethical if you just don't want to try out what you buy, and don't put forth effort. But, if the product is BS which is absolutely possible in this business, it's ethical in my opinion to get your money back.
        The name's LOUIS, yeah!

        And NO it's not ethical to buy through your own affiliate link! If you want a review copy you ask for it not go behind the vendors back.

        OK?
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        • Profile picture of the author J Bold
          Originally Posted by Louis Raven View Post

          The name's LOUIS, yeah!

          And NO it's not ethical to buy through your own affiliate link! If you want a review copy you ask for it not go behind the vendors back.

          OK?
          Ok. I thought she was just talking about refunds in general, not buying through your own affiliate link and then getting a refund. Didn't catch that. That would be unethical.

          However, if you buy through your own affiliate link and don't ask for a refund, why is this unethical? When I was a sales person, I was expressly allowed to buy my product from myself and get commission on it. I don't see why that's unethical, it happens all the time in the real business world. So why is it so bad with affiliate products? I have seen affiliate programs mention this as a grave sin but I didn't get it as related to how it works with other kinds of business. I guess if you just sign up and that is your only sale, but if an affiliate product would let you buy after you make 10 sales, don't see why it'd be unethical. You're still giving the same amount of money to the vendor.
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          • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
            Hey guys,

            I have read this thread and it appears to me that almost everyone was easily approved into CPA networks.. I tried Hydra and ClickBooth.. and they have rejected me.. for no specific reason.. I have yet to recieve replies from other networks..

            How do you get your application approved? lol.. I am thoroughly confused because once I get approved I am sure I will find a way to get PPC traffic to convert..

            Any help would be appreciated..
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  • Profile picture of the author Olgi
    Hello Fellow Warriors,

    As many of you, I also do affiliate marketing and I believe I have been successful so far. I normally generate $100-$200 per day and the highest ever was $250 in a day.

    I work in three different affiliate networks and I always rotate the offers in order to see which are paying much more and which convert better.

    To all those who would love to make money via Affiliate Marketing, I believe its the right path to success. Personally I have been reading a lot and I realize that you cannot make as much as other experienced members but of course testing and failing is part of your success

    This is my first post by the way in this forum

    Have a nice time

    Olgi
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Mike75
    If your earning $1200 per month net from CPA networks that's very good, not anything to retire on, but certainly more than the average affiliate/publisher. Most affiliates don't do anything. You can make a lot from CPA, it's quite simple, drive traffic to the offers that convert. Working on the inside of a mid sized CPA network for 6 months as an AM, gave me a front row view of how these networks work. The BIG money online is made in traffic monetization, you'd be shocked at the kind of money being thrown around in these allocations.
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  • Profile picture of the author jn.rounak
    i use to earn alot when i was working with many companies but one of my main site got hacked and after then i never picked up, but use to earn 40,50$ daily
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    • Profile picture of the author J Bold
      Originally Posted by jn.rounak View Post

      i use to earn alot when i was working with many companies but one of my main site got hacked and after then i never picked up, but use to earn 40,50$ daily
      $40, $50 is good is good if you don't spend much time on it. But that's not a lot. I'm not saying I'm making a lot. I'm making less than that, but I still don't consider that a lot. Good start, though, if you were just starting.
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      • Profile picture of the author kento57
        Would you ask your doctor what he makes per year? Would you ask your lawyer? Doubtful.
        Bad analogy.
        Would you ask your doctor how many surgeries he has performed for your specific condition? Would you ask your lawyer how many cases he has won for someone in your situation? Those would relevant questions. Likewise I would want to know how much someone is making, if they claim to be able to coach me on how to make money.

        It's a personal topic and if you don't believe in the person you're seeking out for coaching or training, then don't use them.
        Good advice. For me, I certainly have no trust for Luke. Others feel differently.

        Luke you gained my respect by not telling us what you earn that counts for a lot and I actually think it gives you great credibility.
        Had the opposite effect on me. Not disclosing your ability to do what you claim to teach completely destroys your credibility.

        So, the point is: it doesn't matter how much money the 'teacher' makes, it's how the students flourish that matters.
        Sorry, in the field of teaching people how to make money, I don't buy that logic, which is why I would never consider his coaching.

        Luke, you should read your emails. Even your students cannot get ahold of you for weeks on end.
        To busy counting his money...from coaching.
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        • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
          Originally Posted by kento57 View Post

          Bad analogy.
          Would you ask your doctor how many surgeries he has performed for your specific condition? Would you ask your lawyer how many cases he has won for someone in your situation? Those would relevant questions. Likewise I would want to know how much someone is making, if they claim to be able to coach me on how to make money.

          Good advice. For me, I certainly have no trust for Luke. Others feel differently.

          Had the opposite effect on me. Not disclosing your ability to do what you claim to teach completely destroys your credibility.

          Sorry, in the field of teaching people how to make money, I don't buy that logic, which is why I would never consider his coaching.

          To busy counting his money...from coaching.
          Kento dude,

          Have you ever made money online? Even offline?

          Do us all a favor... Show us a photo of your ITR and we will know that you are real... Heck even then it might be difficult for us because your name, your photo, your residence, nothing is clearly visible.

          People here are not bothered reading these stupid silly posts of yours. You are attacking Luke in the first place, and then in the second place all you are doing is ATTACKING Luke. Get a life, make some money. I bet you'll have bbetter things to do then. And yes, don't you get back by attacking or insulting me... because you will fail miserably, for I won't even need to reply.

          I know for a fact that many of Luke's students are making some real money. I have spoken to many of them personally and they all had good things to say about Luke. Yes some methods might be BH, but Luke focuses on getting his students to make money quickly, and WH does take time.

          As far as what he makes himself is concerned, just by looking at the revshare that the students are paying him up I know he has done high six figures in the last few months... So 1 thing is almost certain... he's a millionaire.

          Would I follow BH methods? Maybe. Maybe not.

          I have been accused at stages when I did something completely WH and I have gotten away with VERY Dark things in the past.

          If someone sued Luke, it doesn't matter at all.

          What does matter is this- He's won the court case. And besides he followed marketing 101 back then too... Sell what people are buying. That's what he did... Very smart.

          And did you see the numbers in there? Over $1M in revenue.. Pretty cool, and should go on to tell you something about Luke's money making abilities.

          Yes, its a good thing to build a big WH business... I do have that. I have seen 4 figure days, just that they are not consistent. And I am sure Luke can take me up to that level of income on a daily basis, so I am putting my trust in this coaching & as soon as it is available I will enrol.

          I don't want images of cash flying all over the place to believe that he really makes money or can help me make money. Look at his business practices and you will know why people love him here ...

          1. He focuses on OLD students first and not the new ones.

          2. He just ensures everyone's success whose on his list of students.

          3. EARNINGS are guaranteed... This is where you say something that has got to do with money and mouth.

          4. He doesn't have any hype on his site... whatsoever.

          5. Proof of earnings of students is evident. In fact I got so close to one of the students that I am starting a project with him (Not CPA, but something else).

          6. He is not disclosing his income. I have had problems in the past when I disclosed my actual income, and this is for a reason that I choose not to talk about my earnings anymore. And I know from experience any one making good amount of money online will want to show it off...

          -Lakshay

          P.S. I am just waiting for a call from someone and all I am doing is waiting so I thought it would be a good exercise for my fingers to type in here. Otherwise, I wouldn't have voiced my opinions. But now that I have done that I need to tell you that I am not yet a student of Luke, but I am ready to sign up ASAP. He wil be opening up the gates for the last batch of students ever so you might not have a chance in hell to enrol. I do not want to see those checks and screenshots... I really don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alvin
    Anyone joined this stepbystepprofit.com? What's your review of it?
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  • Profile picture of the author kento57
    Have you ever made money online? Even offline?

    Do us all a favor... Show us a photo of your ITR and we will know that you are real... Heck even then it might be difficult for us because your name, your photo, your residence, nothing is clearly visible.
    Sorry, I'm not the one claiming to be an expert and offering to train others, so my abilities aren't the question.
    I know for a fact that many of Luke's students are making some real money. I have spoken to many of them personally and they all had good things to say about Luke.
    And many are completly disappointed and totally frustrated with his training and trying to get in touch with him. There's quite a revealing discussion on BHW with his students.
    As far as what he makes himself is concerned, just by looking at the revshare that the students are paying him up I know he has done high six figures in the last few months... So 1 thing is almost certain... he's a millionaire.
    Wow, you're quite the investigative accountant.
    Sell what people are buying. That's what he did... Very smart.
    And what he is doing now. Selling coaching with little evidence of his own ability.
    1. He focuses on OLD students first and not the new ones.
    And that justifies post after post on this forum of people begging him to contact them after they've paid and can't reach him...to the point that mods just delete the whole thread? Someone so rich and successful that he can't take care of or hire basic admin to respond to emails/pms?
    2. He just ensures everyone's success whose on his list of students.
    Again there is plenty of disappointment in his clients. His NDA has intimidated many from being more vocal.
    3. EARNINGS are guaranteed...
    A guarantee is only as good as the person backing it up. There are reports of many that have requested a refund and have not received it.
    "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach".
    Luke has found a hugely profitable niche in CPA coaching. The evidence that he can actually make money himself in CPA is not to be found. Instead we have all kinds of excuses as to why he won't or can't provide the evidence, so in this case, I'd have to agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author thaiminh76
    If you want to get to the big time profits ASAP you may want to look into working with a coach. I'll tell you that 10-20k+ a month with CPA is definitely feasible. You really need to think outside the box w/ CPA. You can make a TON with ppc and CPA but you'll need the capital and the knowledg of ppc.

    I'm not doing cpa at the moment but when I get back into it my numbers will be somewhere between 10-20k/month if not more...and yes that is profit.really?
    can i do that because i am a new bie?
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