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Email submit how?

by arsde
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Hello I did an email submit and I used PPC. I sent them to a pretty targeted website there they would submit they email and the page wasen't hard to understand. Well I got 35 clicks and no conversion yet :confused:

Are they slow in updating email submits or can it convert so bad? I got the clicks today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexter007
    Maybe the submit offers sounded scam to your visitors. Maybe your CPA advertiser is slow to display your leads. Or more chances is that the visitors are taken to a second page after email submit and they do not fill up that page.

    Bad to see 0 conversions. Time to change your offer, or your way of PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrCruzin
    Email Submits are hard offers to work with.

    First you have to deal with scrubbing which takes place and sucks.

    Second only 35 clicks is not a good gauge to see how well an offer does. Though this will depend on where the traffic is coming from.

    I would say send about 200 clicks to an offer and then you will be able to tell if you have a winner. If you are doing PPC try to use day parting as the time of day will make a difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author arsde
      Well stands on their terms of use that pixels can't be place. Sounds fishy...
      Stands they only need to submit their email and the landing page looks good. It also stands on the add exactly what it is so it's strange...

      Either they are scrubing like hell or they are slow on showing... 54 that seen it now. I will talk to my affiliate manager and if there aren't any solution I will just move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danx
    If you find any network that doesn't scrub 90% of leads please let us know. I've had nothing but bad luck with e-mail submits.
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    • Profile picture of the author ILUVCA$H
      Danx,

      I have never seen a scrub that high on an Email Submit - I think that like others have said that you need to do a bigger test but if you send 200 clicks you should see at least one conversion. If not move on Affiliate Marketing is about testing and what works for one offer might be different then what converts for another. Keep at it!

      If you need some good email submits we have some that are converting very well right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by arsde View Post

    Hello I did an email submit and I used PPC. I sent them to a pretty targeted website there they would submit they email and the page wasen't hard to understand. Well I got 35 clicks and no conversion yet :confused:

    Are they slow in updating email submits or can it convert so bad? I got the clicks today.
    This is not near enough info to give any advise, also 35 clicks isn't that much - you need a large sample of data
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    This is too small of a sample size (35 clicks) to know definitively whether this is going to be successful or not. What sort of keywords were you using? Were they targeted, and was your Ad Text relevant enough?

    I'd advise against using PPC for email submits because of the low payouts involved, you'd really have to fine tune a PPC campaign for it to be profitable with email submits. Unless you're paying 10 cents or less per click, I'd stay away from using email submits.
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  • Profile picture of the author studentwarrior
    I have the same experience as of today. Yesterday I started my email submit campaign and with in less than an hour I got a traffic of 126 to be exact and almost 200 today but there is no conversion. Is there a problem with my affiliate network or they are just slow to show the lead?
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  • Profile picture of the author CPAmojo
    99% of all CPA Networks are instant tracking, so if the leads aren't showing up it is either that no one signed up, the network is shaving, or the advertisers are scrubbing.

    Email submits are very hard to market only when you are using paid traffic. The EPC might be lower than the PPC or PPV, but they work wonders when promoting with banners on your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Flaura78
      Originally Posted by CPAmojo View Post

      99% of all CPA Networks are instant tracking, so if the leads aren't showing up it is either that no one signed up, the network is shaving, or the advertisers are scrubbing.

      Email submits are very hard to market only when you are using paid traffic. The EPC might be lower than the PPC or PPV, but they work wonders when promoting with banners on your site.
      I agree. I never use and never would paid traffic for email submits. Anyways, I test it on free traffic first. And if it did worth to put it on PPV or PPC (I mean the EPC was higher than the bid/conversion) I would but research shows it never does.
      I would advise you to test offers on free traffic before you start a paid campaign to avoid losing money.
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  • Profile picture of the author studentwarrior
    that means after 200+ clicks that my campaign made and no conversion I should stop it and find another offer to promote? I check again my account at CJ and still no conversion... man this is very frustrating.

    Any other advice from you guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author Flaura78
    Arsde, if it is really an email submit and hasn't converted in 200 clicks, either your keywords are too broad, or your headline too flashy or if you are confident that you did everything well, start a new campaign. At least you won't lose more money. But testing is the key. Email submits should convert at at least 10% or it's not worth to pay for traffic in my opinion. Test it on free traffic if you can.... first.
    Good luck.
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