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Unread 18th February 2010, 12:21 AM   #1
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Default Is CPA Networks Cheating ?

Hello all warriors,

I am new to CPA business and I need a quick help.

I have been marketing CPA from 2 networks for the past 3 months now and I have not really made any money. I drove traffics and make sure everything is ok.

Just 2 days ago out of curiousity, I sent one of my CPA affiliate links to my wife's email to buy through that link which is Trial Offer for anti-aging product.

Yesterday I logged in to my CPA account to verify if I get credit for that transaction. To my surprise, it was never recorded in my account. So, I got no credit for that transaction.

So, I start calling my CPA account manager. I called him like 5 times only to be directed to answering machine. So, I sent email and he replied later with "I don't know" type of thing.

Now, to all guru CPA warriors out there, how do you guys track your sales? How do you make sure the CPA networks are not cheating you? I will really appreciate you guys reply. I have spent a lot of money in marketing with nothing to show for it.

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Unread 18th February 2010, 12:24 AM   #2
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what CPA network are you with?

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Unread 18th February 2010, 12:40 AM   #3
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yMultimedia is the one I'm talking about here.
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Unread 18th February 2010, 12:48 AM   #4
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Default Re: Is CPA Networks Cheating ?

Never heard of it. most everyone has success
with Neverblue.

Do some research for ant reviews on the network
you are talking about.

Look for customers that are talking about the network
you want to work with.

Bigger companies usually have good managers. You make
money, they do .

Hope this helps you out.
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Unread 18th February 2010, 12:54 AM   #5
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Never heard of it. most everyone has success
with Neverblue.

Do some research for ant reviews on the network
you are talking about.

Look for customers that are talking about the network
you want to work with.

Bigger companies usually have good managers. You make
money, they do .

Hope this helps you out.
I believe Amish Shah owns that Affiliate Network as it says a DigiSpace company and Digispace shows hexatrack. Anyways I myself never used that network before I use Neverblue its awesome!

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Default Re: Is CPA Networks Cheating ?

shaving is part of the business...like it or not.
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Unread 18th February 2010, 01:05 AM   #7
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Yes,

Amish Shah owns it. I was automatically signed into it when I bought his "Magic Bullet System" product.

I think I will go and try neverblue.

Thanks a lot.
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Default Re: Is CPA Networks Cheating ?

Hey Solomon as we discussed earlier today we are checking with the advertiser to see what is going on with this. But our network has no intentions of cheating any of our affiliates at all. Hope to hear something back about this as soon as possible and I will let you know what is going on.
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Hey Jessie,

Nice to see you here. Honestly, I just find this warrior forum today through google when I typed in a keyword for "cpa tracking". I didn't know you are going to meet me here.

I am not trying to destroy your network, but you have to put me in your shoes. I have spent close to $500 driving traffics to offers from your network. For example, I applied also for another offer about 6 days ago to test too and no credit. I have the email showing this from the offer. The offer is "New Car for Mom".

If these happened like that, how many customers do I know have applied for my promoting offers that I did not get credit for them?

But I know you can fix these issues and I'm waiting patiently.

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great!! tip never use adwords or at least the search network in google... you will get burned right now... seriously

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Unread 21st February 2010, 01:24 PM   #11
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I can't stand when they shave. It happens all the time with most networks, unfortunately.

MaxBounty and NeverBlue are probably the best bet.......Market Leverage and Amped as well....oh and CPAEmpire aka Affiliate(dot)com are reliable as well

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Unread 21st February 2010, 02:35 PM   #12
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Again, it's not the networks who "shave" - it comes from the advertisers. Any legitimate network does not have time to go through accounts a remove leads manually. Track your campaigns with t202.

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Unread 21st February 2010, 03:03 PM   #13
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Again, it's not the networks who "shave" - it comes from the advertisers. Any legitimate network does not have time to go through accounts a remove leads manually. Track your campaigns with t202.

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Jared, with all due respect, that really is the networks resposibility, not the affiliates. If I have to worry about advertisers and keeping up with them, I might as well start my own private network, it doesn't cost so much money. In fact I'm looking to do that now.

I understand your position, but you need to filter out advertisers who shave. It is us, the affiliates, that are spending our hard earned money, and I'm sure you know it is hard earned, to drive traffic to you.

Again, if networks don't care enough to drop advertisers that shave, well then what do I need a network for, like I said, I can start my own.

I'm not trying to get into an argument, I'm just trying to express an affiliate's opinion.

Hope you understand.

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Frank,

Trust me, any network who finds an advertiser shaving, will drop them - as it is costing the network time and money to leave them on. Another thing to remember is that many many networks run their own buys with the campaigns as well.

But to say networks are "cheating" by picking a lead here and there to "shave" is a little silly.

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Oh and by the way, and this is NOT directed towards Jared specifically, but there is no difference between shaving and theft in my opinion.

If I spent $3 on a click that leads to a conversion and I don't get credited, you can call it shaving all you want, in my book, its theft.

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Frank,

Trust me, any network who finds an advertiser shaving, will drop them - as it is costing the network time and money to leave them on. Another thing to remember is that many many networks run their own buys with the campaigns as well.

But to say networks are "cheating" by picking a lead here and there to "shave" is a little silly.

Take care
While I am sure that is the case with your network, I've had experiences where I have complained to a networks AM, been told that I was right and that they were pulling the campaigns immediately, and a day later, they're still there.

You have to admit there are some shady networks out there.

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I am driving traffic to one of ymultimedia offers. First day I made $50, then I made like $5 with the same ad expenses. Well, that seems a little suspicious but I don't blame ymultimedia for that. I think they are a good CPA network to be an affiliate.
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Well, there are a few things you need to consider.

First, the platform. If they are running on HitPath, there is an automatic shaving/scrub level. It stinks. That's how they make money. DirectTrack is probably the best. LinkTrust is good but is going through some pretty heavy growing pains since their recent upgrade with all their compliance tools. Hasoffers is on the money - big time.

Now, as to the custom platforms. I can't say it enough. Neverblue, Peerfly, MarketLeverage, Azoogle, QWIK, EWA, Globalizer, Affiliate.com, and COPEAC. They are always on top of the game and are honest in this business when it comes to leads. They will track your leads and work to make sure that you are getting what you are sending them. Neverblue, Peerfly, and Azoogle have all built their portals from the ground up so NEVER worry about shaving there.

If you are trying to find out if someone is stealing you $$$$, you need to get someone who understands fraud compliance from the inside and out. Ever think of subscribing to a service like FraudSolver (www.fraudsolver.com).

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I'm just thinking that advertising the CPA network using PPC is a risky business. Lot of day with profit but many days come with loss. Because more spending than earning

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Thank you all for your answers. I really appreciate it.

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