Clickbank, fat burning furnace and diet solution program broke?

Profile picture of the author rebiller by rebiller Posted: 03/04/2010
Today, I launched a campaign on search for generic weight loss keywords paying a good chunk and was 2 > position wise. 10/10 etc. (UK)

I was rotating through Fat burning furnace, truth about ads, diet solution program. So I launched it, let it run and it was getting a few clicks.

I fell asleep, woke up and boom $1200 spent, so i thought yay lets see the leads, and when I logged into CB i saw $0 :/ so I thought wtf, clicked my links and my user was being added to the hops fine.

So I tried to order my self to see what was up, and when I did I got errors.

With using a CC, other CCs I own and I also tried a VCC. My friends also got this same message:
Your order was not approved. Please try another card. (0)
With paypal:
Your order was not approved. Please try another card. (0)
and paypal also forced me to use CC instead of bank which it normally does.

Is this kind of think normal for clickbank? I know if this was a traditional CPA network my $1200 would have been reimbursed.

I sent about 1500 clicks, and got 0 sales. I was direct linking to their offer, as this is how I was suggested to push it and how I've seen others to push it.

What kind of EPCs, ECPMS and conversion rates have you seen and have you come accross this problem? If so, often?
#broke #burning #clickbank #diet #fat #furnace #program #solution

  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Midas3 Consulting
    You know what I've had a few customers moan to our helpdesk about that error.

    It's really damm annoying.

    IF we had 3-5 people contact our helpdesk about it, god only knows how many just left in annoyance.

    Problem is, I can't replicate the error at all.
  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Midas3 Consulting
    FBF converts reasonably well, it's big on content. You can expect on content far less than 15 sales from 1500 clicks however. On search 1:100 is probably about right but ultimately it could vary hugely depending on what keywords you're using.

    There is , btw, no problem with direct linking these kind of products, every big content guy I know direct links FBF and TAA and Isabella's program. Sometimes so called review sites only serve to screw the conversions, it completely depends on what keywords you used and how you got them there initially.

    I would say however in your case CB had some nasty payment error.

    I was almost tempted to ring them about it myself after getting the 4th complaint on our helpdesk.
  • Profile picture of the author rebiller
    rebiller
    Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post
    You know what I've had a few customers moan to our helpdesk about that error.

    It's really damm annoying.

    IF we had 3-5 people contact our helpdesk about it, god only knows how many just left in annoyance.

    Problem is, I can't replicate the error at all.
    I'm considering doing a replication of these pages, where on the payment page it triggers my pixels and then redirects to the offer.

    The reason I didn't use a presales page, is because those landers are already seriously long and very winded.

    I was testing accross a bunch of keywords, however no leads is no leads.

    I would have prefered to do a media buy, however clickbank are ****ty enough to not have pixel options

    If there are this many people getting errors, maybe I should open up my own platform to compete with some real processing :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author ben565
    ben565
    why did you not set a daily limit? then you wouldn't have burned through $1200
  • Profile picture of the author rebiller
    rebiller
    Originally Posted by ben565 View Post
    why did you not set a daily limit? then you wouldn't have burned through $1200
    There was, it hit it.
  • Profile picture of the author Flaura78
    Flaura78
    Originally Posted by rebiller View Post
    There was, it hit it.
    It looks like this is your Cash Burning Furnace! I might be a scaredy cat but I always test offers on free traffic before burning my money on Google. I am really sorry about what happened there. Remember: just because other people are doing well with the offer, it doesn't mean it will work the same with your keywords too... They might know something you don't. Some people have been on PPC since it started! I am not trying to compete with them...
  • Profile picture of the author rebiller
    rebiller
    My entire company is built around paid traffic, and google is the smallest % of it. I'm not very good with search, but because of complaints DSP and FBF have generated by publishers, google have stopped new advertisers from advertising on the content network it seems. So search is my only option, and day two of running resulted in $1k spend with just $60 in :rolleyes: fun, fun, fun.

    I personally see a lot of potential in these video presell products, but I also see where a lot of improvements can be made. So I've got my team to recreate a similar product with some endorsements and our own processing system.

    Thanks for the input anyway everyone.
  • Profile picture of the author mikkosant
    mikkosant
    I don't mean to jump on the clickbank tracking sucks theme, but this week has been unusually odd for one of my sites. It regularly makes sales, then the last week or two has only made 1 sale, yet more order form submits and more traffic to my site due to a higher serp.

    Is 1200 a regular daily budget for you? I hope this order form submit nonsense get worked out very soon. I'm thinking about just creating the my own product and go directly through paypal. Surely the sales will be increased, but then again, that's a ton of work.

    I hope this get figured out and thanks for bringing it up.
  • Profile picture of the author Flaura78
    Flaura78
    Originally Posted by rebiller View Post
    My entire company is built around paid traffic, and google is the smallest % of it. I'm not very good with search, but because of complaints DSP and FBF have generated by publishers, google have stopped new advertisers from advertising on the content network it seems. So search is my only option, and day two of running resulted in $1k spend with just $60 in :rolleyes: fun, fun, fun.

    I personally see a lot of potential in these video presell products, but I also see where a lot of improvements can be made. So I've got my team to recreate a similar product with some endorsements and our own processing system.

    Thanks for the input anyway everyone.
    OK, there it is... If you were to manage to get PLR products while you are creating your own produts, there are real good ones with complete sales letters, video squeeze pages. You can also try building your own list while generating traffic by pre-qualifying leads.
    How about that?
  • Profile picture of the author Nanville
    Nanville
    I'm new here and I don't know if I'm doing the right thing posting here.

    I'm thinking of promoting The Diet Solution Program but I noticed that the owners of the website are promoting 2 products: Fat Burning Furnace and Final Phase Fat Loss with their Clickbank IDs! Anybody notice this?
  • Profile picture of the author jmaresca2005
    jmaresca2005
    contact your AM right away. there could be an issue with the advertisers merchant account.
  • Profile picture of the author Internet_Corporation
    Internet_Corporation
    Originally Posted by rebiller View Post
    I fell asleep, woke up and boom $1200 spent, so i thought yay lets see the leads, and when I logged into CB i saw $0 :/ so I thought wtf, clicked my links and my user was being added to the hops fine.
    You should have set your daily spend limit to a more comfortable amount. Although I no longer use Adwords, a $50 a day starting point to me was alawys safe. Then once its working increase the spend.
  • Profile picture of the author tolxeaquarius
    tolxeaquarius
    I find clickbank a little bit difficult to sell anyway, but I am good with other Affi (Affiliate) programs
  • Profile picture of the author angelcho
    angelcho
    I don't know what's happened to you, but ClickBank for me is working very well. Maybe the problem is in your tracking system. You have to check it.
  • Profile picture of the author gabibeowulf
    gabibeowulf
    I don't know why you would spend that much money on direct linking to an offer...

    You should:

    x) Always monitor your budget and set proper limits

    x) Get the lead first and the sale second. If you had built a list instead of direct linking you wouldn't be in this situation right now. All you had to do was email them the second day and say that the error is now fixed and they could order.

    You should build some trust before asking for money ... Just sayin'
  • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
    speedylikesKJ
    Sorry to hear that , I guess you should have checked at product first ...

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