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CPA shaving, is it even worth it?

by davison
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I keep hearing about "shaving" on CPA offers, the zip submits seem like a winner at $1.20 a piece and it should be easy enough to convert but the shaving worries me. Does anyone consistently make money on these? I'm sure some do, but hoping to find out if A LOT of you do. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author kirch
    Yes ,Most Networks and Advertisers Shave email/zip submit offers like HELL.You can make a ton of Money with email/zip submits if you can do precise targeting and use a cheap traffic source
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    • Profile picture of the author davison
      Now, my next question is: I've heard TONS of people talking about how CPA networks shave our conversions; how do we all know that this is happening and do they shave just zip and e-mail submits and if so do they shave the offers that pay out $15 for a one-page submit or any other offer for that matter? I guess my real question is what makes anyone think shaving takes place, is there any real proof?
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      • Profile picture of the author axel40
        I do not know what "shaving" here means. Will anyone explain?
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        • Profile picture of the author davison
          It means the network isn't giving you credit for all the conversions you actually make.
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  • Profile picture of the author kat3322g
    Big networks should be better. So just go.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yep, shaving happens so you build it into your campaigns. If you are doing free traffic methods, then you cant lose money with shaving, but it still is a pain in the butt.

    If you are doing paid traffic, this is when you have to really be careful. Its hard to convert low payout offers when taking into account shaving, and if you are new especially I wouldnt promote these types of offers at first with paid traffic.

    There is money to be made with simple submits just like there are with every kind of offer. Just be smart and track, and split test to find the best offer with least shaving.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by davison View Post

    I keep hearing about "shaving" on CPA offers, the zip submits seem like a winner at $1.20 a piece and it should be easy enough to convert but the shaving worries me. Does anyone consistently make money on these? I'm sure some do, but hoping to find out if A LOT of you do. Thanks.
    Why not do proper pay-per-lead?

    I get paid 50 times what you get paid on simple form-submits. I've tried zip submits but at these low margins its just too much hassle. Do PPL instead, much more money in it!
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    • Profile picture of the author nzjav05
      Or instead of sending your initial traffic to zip/email offers.

      Send them to your own email opt-in. This way you can have targeted email lists for diff niches at your disposal.

      In the long run these lists should provide more income if used right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Last post is a great point. If you are breaking even with the email submit but building a list....you are not breaking even, you are setting yourself up for the future
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Guys ... when you do PPL EVERY merchant shaves off valid leads. It increases their profit margins and unless you are a high-volume affiliate you dont really have any negotiating power ... UNLESS you do a direct deal with them. Complaining to the network does help if many affiliates do it but apart from that ... not much you can do about a merchant taking out the ol' razor blade.
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