Do I really need a landing page?

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I Just setup my first CPA PPC Campaign and I've been doing quite a bit of research before starting. Such as finding a good offer that I think would convert rather easily (email submit), determining which PPC network I want to start with (Yahoo), and picking long tail keywords to start off with.

I'm curious however, I hear all this talk about creating landing page with i-framing and etc. Is this really neccessary when creating CPA ads or is direct linking (using a redirect) ok?

I say this because I know it's pretty easy to get Google slapped for various reasons which includes direct linking to offers so I see why people create LP's first. But what about the other PPC networks that allow direct linking, would a landing page be overkill for a simple email submit offer?
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  • Profile picture of the author adsquare
    Depending on the campaign you MAY need one. I always recommend LP's for search traffic. It never hurts to make the consumer MORE interested before they go to the campaigns LP.

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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliatebuddy
    and yes.. you can have their email address on your list before sending to CPA url.

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  • Profile picture of the author AdInventive
    It all depends on your traffic source and the offer that you're pushing.

    Does your offer require pre-selling? How well does the offer's own landing page do this?

    Also consider this, a landing page gives you an opportunity to capture the email address of interested visitors. Doing that enables you to re-market to them in the future which increases the life time value of that person. This increase in the life time value will also directly translate into how much more you can spend to acquire traffic.

    I would say, unless it's a simple email submit offer, you are almost always better off pre-selling a person before sending them off. ESPECIALLY if there's going to be a credit card required down the line.

    This also depends on your traffic sources. Keep in mind if you're doing any type of banner media buying that you are going to have a rough time having even 40% of the people that you send to your own landing page, click through to the offer itself. This can effect your bottom line needless to say.

    The only thing that you can do for certain is to test and measure both.
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Test it out and find out

      If the offers landing page is really good, then just use it.

      If you get a offer that is doing well for you, then make a landing page to test out.
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      • Profile picture of the author configthenet
        Yup so I'm testing with the Landing Page now and I'm currently trying some free methods. So far I generated more clicks today than previously all from free traffic alone. I think the payout on my offer is to low ($1.10) to continue the PPC route. The lowest I was getting per click is 10 cents but I was averaging 40 cents. Even if I was able to get 5 cents per click that would mean that I would need at least 1 out of 20 to sign up with their email to get only like 10 cents worth of profit.

        I've been following a few guides who mentioned getting to know your Affiliate Manager and this is starting to work quite well. I now have a complete list of the best converting campaigns currently. I'm going to try and focus on a niche rather than which campaign is converting the most, I think this may help out in the long run.

        Thanks for all your help so far guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author robp234
    I think you have gotten some pretty good advice so far. I personally don't use a landing page on cheap email or zip submit offers. On offers that are a bigger payout and require people to give out more information or a cc submit I will usually try to do some preselling and build a list with a landing page. That being said I always consider the quality of the offer's landing page and if it is good I will split test between the two and go with the one that makes me the most money. Good luck and I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yeah there are a lot of ways to run traffic.

    With email submits, its sometimes hard to build a good pre-sell because normally the margins are low anyway (since the payout is low + scrubbing) and when you build a layer between the traffic and the offer (ie landing page) generally your ctr will drop a tad because some people wont follow through the the offer.

    With that said, it is possible to do squeeze page campaigns with simple so you can build a list and then you are happy just to break even on the actual offer because now you have emails.


    For search and some other traffic you will need a landing page or web site in between your traffic and your offer. This will not only help pre-sell the traffic, but also help you achieve a better quality score and thus cheaper clicks.

    Wordpress or static html templates are a good place to start for building a site or lp.
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    • Profile picture of the author cableghost
      Is it fair to say that one will receive a lower Adwords QS direct linking an affiliate's page, instead of a unique LP?

      The issue I anticipate having in using a LP is reducing further the percentage that will actually see the affiliate page. However, it appears that most here believe that a good LP will increase the CTR of the affiliate offer?

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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Yes, you should be able to get a better quality score by building your own page as you can tailor it to your keywords.

    Yes, landing pages is a layer in between the traffic and the offer so almost always a certain percentage of people never make it to your offer. With that said, a good pre-sell page can increase your conversion rate on the offer page to more than make up for the lost traffic. That's the goal
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    • Profile picture of the author cableghost
      Thank you all.

      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      ...a good pre-sell page can increase your conversion rate on the offer page to more than make up for the lost traffic.
      As I suspect there are numerous methodologies behind the type of pre-sell page to generate, I wonder if there is some sort of guide to follow. Such as, if the pre-sell page is for some sort of Internet Marketing product, possibly a review of the product would work best, and for a financial-based product, possibly some basic facts, etc.

      As the general public become more keen on recognizing site's with BS, is there a better, more effective standard to follow in design of the pre-sell page? I know people are accustomed nowadays to see at least a two-column site, but also you do not want to provide any links whereby you could lose that prospect.

      Additionally, I would gather you do not want to provide too many review posts, as not to confuse the viewer?
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  • Profile picture of the author configthenet
    I'm in the process of testing another campaign using Google this time, I'm running into issues creating a decent LP but I'll figure it out sooner rather than later
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    • Profile picture of the author Wayfatwhitey
      There are a lot of LP resources out there. I like to grab free banners from places like templatesbox.com then tweak them to fit my niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author cableghost
        Originally Posted by Wayfatwhitey View Post

        There are a lot of LP resources out there. I like to grab free banners from places like templatesbox.com then tweak them to fit my niche.
        I do appreciate the headers recommendation, but I am more curious as if there is an overall theme to employ for better results?

        Your response is exactly why I ask the questions in this forum. There is a lot of crap ("resources") on the search engines, though I seem to find specific, more appropriate answers here on the Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author dandingo
    I wouldn't create a landing page for a email submit because one its unnecessary and two Roi wouldn't be worth it. Creating a Landing page for free trial offers is much more sufficient.
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  • Profile picture of the author gbengaijotan
    from my own point of view, it depends. If you would be doing a lot of article marketing, then you are better of creating a landing page.

    A website like ezinearticles will not accept your article if you do not use a landing page really.
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    • Profile picture of the author configthenet
      Thanks for all of the suggestions so far, I'm currently working on a free trial offer but I always have trouble getting any traffic with adwords. Yahoo and Facebook I have no problem generating traffic with just few keywords, still can't figure that out yet.

      I only had about 40 keywords in Google at first but I just ramped it up to about 500 targeted keywords spread across 4 different adword groups this evening. Hopefully this will help me at least get some clicks to the LP, that should be the easy part right lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Phobos
        Originally Posted by configthenet View Post

        Thanks for all of the suggestions so far, I'm currently working on a free trial offer but I always have trouble getting any traffic with adwords. Yahoo and Facebook I have no problem generating traffic with just few keywords, still can't figure that out yet.

        I only had about 40 keywords in Google at first but I just ramped it up to about 500 targeted keywords spread across 4 different adword groups this evening. Hopefully this will help me at least get some clicks to the LP, that should be the easy part right lol.
        Bumping this thread for news... How's it going? Are you direct linking or using a LP?
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  • Profile picture of the author stilliryze
    yea,like many have said,it all depends on the campaign.lots of testing is your only answer
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by configthenet View Post

    I Just setup my first CPA PPC Campaign and I've been doing quite a bit of research before starting. Such as finding a good offer that I think would convert rather easily (email submit), determining which PPC network I want to start with (Yahoo), and picking long tail keywords to start off with.

    I'm curious however, I hear all this talk about creating landing page with i-framing and etc. Is this really neccessary when creating CPA ads or is direct linking (using a redirect) ok?

    I say this because I know it's pretty easy to get Google slapped for various reasons which includes direct linking to offers so I see why people create LP's first. But what about the other PPC networks that allow direct linking, would a landing page be overkill for a simple email submit offer?
    You never need to have it, however for some offers a landing page will convert better (think pre-sales), generally e-mail submits I wouldn't waste time on a landing page
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  • Profile picture of the author greenhouse
    I appreciate this is mouthful, but am just trying to give you enough info so we don't go back and forth.
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  • Profile picture of the author caspara
    I would suggest definitely having a landing page.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    At this moment I have 2 PPC campaigns running promoting CPA offers, both of them are doing very well using landing pages. Also, all the successful PPC campaigns I have (or had) promoting Clickbank products use landing pages.

    However, I think it depends on the offer. Some free offers my work if you direct link.


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  • Profile picture of the author JonMcNeil
    I would vote yes, capturing names and email addresses are a most.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    If you are doing PPC then use a good lp for QS

    But, if you are doing traffic that doesnt require a LP, test a LP against direct link. Especially for some of the higher paying offers, they already have great landing pages that have been tested and optimized. Ive had great success direct linking to high payout offers from free traffic sources in particular. Plus its cool because there is much less work involved!
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    you don't NEED anything, but yes they can help conversions in some cases
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  • Profile picture of the author configthenet
    Just a quick update, I noticed that for the campaign I was running that I was of course not getting as many direct hits when using a landing page. However I did notice that my conversions were a lot higher once they made it pass the landing page. I created a very simple free landing page at Weebly which seemed to do a pretty good job for being free.

    I got over whelmed with PPC honestly though which caused me to take a step back and analyze my business and goals. I'm now back to learning SEO tactics and focusing on my product before moving back to the CPA realm. I needed backlinks yesterday (like everyone else) so I'm currently writing down a plan on how to get the links I need. I'm seriously considering Senuke but I want to map exactly what my process is going to be before I take that leap.
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