Since money is involved

Originally Posted by Luke Sample

Not sure why you are attacking me here, but I really don't appreciate it in the least. You made a LOT of assumptions and are not even close on what you assume we coach. Maybe you should speak to some of my students to get it straight?

"""Your method allows this. Other types of coaching do not. Sending free traffic to programs that pay per impression enables you to make this statement safely. Good for you that found a loophole to be able to make that statement."""

You are actually much more confused than I thought. I do not use any programs with cpa techniques that pay per impression. I'm not sure where you got that information, I think you are obviously confusing my sig file links with my CPA coaching. 2 separate things. No pay per impression used in my methods. Why did you assume that? That is CPM, not CPA?


"""Very untrue. There were a couple attempted programs that cost $77 to $200 per month and they were absolute garbage."""

Maybe you missed the (not always the case) in my response?



"""Again, you can say this because your sending "free" traffic to programs that are paying per impression."""

Actually again, you are completely incorrect and obviously know nothing about my coaching. We do lots of PPC, Media buys, list rental, and more with paid traffic with my coaching. It is not just about free traffic...not sure where you got that information but you are wrong.

And again, you talk about free traffic to pay per impression, you have obviously confused my social network marketing website with my CPA coaching or something. 2 different things. No pay per impression models used with my coaching, and it is not just free traffic. That's CPM, NOT CPA???



"""It's good that you're keeping part of your students earnings, for you. But how does that help the student? You've tried to spin it, but I just don't get how a student sharing revenue after already paying an up front fee is good for them? I would not see this as any sort of benefit to the student."""

It's simple, because without a revshare they would NEVER get access to this kind of information. Who in their right mind would give out a technique that is making well over $1500/day...in exact detail? The answer is nobody in their right mind...unless there is a revshare model. I'm talking specifics here too. Just giving the student general information on PPC and not actually handing them the keywords to bid on, etc. does not constitute showing them a method. In other words, in order for me to just hand over my campaigns to them...of course there is a revshare.

It is obvious if there is no revshare then the techniques are not that valuable or you are not giving the EXACT information on how to make that money. I don't know of any SPECIFIC information you could give to someone that wouldn't pose a saturation risk. If it doesn't, the information is too general.



"""The methods could be so good that instead of being a one trick pony and needed a NDA to be signed, the methods and techniques learned can apply to millions of keywords and thousands of offers."""

Ew, bad answer. Yeah, that's PPC. We teach PPC as well, but we actually give them access to profitable campaigns. If you don't think PPC campaigns can become saturated when you are handing out your profitable keywords, bid prices, and more, you obviously haven't done much PPC. This is why we can guarantee profits, because we actually just hand over profitable campaigns. Nobody else does this, which is probably why you are confused.

When we tell a student, use this offer, bid on these key terms in these search engines, with this landing page, and this ad text...that can without a doubt become saturated. I think the truth is that you are obviously not handing out profitable campaigns in that kind of detail...which is why you aren't worried about saturation. Just like every other cheap coaching or ebook that is out there. General information doesn't cause saturation. Exacting detail does and requires protection for both my students and myself.


""'"What happens when the single method doesn't work anymore? The student now has nothing to rely on. But if that student were taught the proper methods and techniques, they could move onto the next niche to survive and prosper."""

Again, you are assuming that there is only one technique I teach for some reason. We teach over 30. That's right...over 30. I'm not sure where you got your information but you are sadly mistaken. We not only teach them how to fish, but hand them a 12 piece basket of long John silvers planks to chew on while they fish. Then after they learn to fish, we teach them how to hunt, and then how to raise crops.

"""I can see why you'd say that. You don't rely on ppc as the method. You rely on some free traffic to programs that pay per impression."""

Again, you are completely incorrect. We DO use PPC and teach that extensively. More extensive than you could ever find in a typical PPC course in fact. We do not rely on pay per impression. That is considered CPM, NOT CPA. Strange how you wouldn't know that as a coach?

I'm not attacking any one method here, and you obviously jumped the gun and made assumptions that were ridiculously inaccurate. I have a problem with people who think PPC is the only and most profitable way, and was trying to make a point.

Don't get me wrong though, we spend WELL into the 5 figures daily on adwords alone. Google sends me christmas presents every year, I love PPC. PPC is a major player in what we do, and teach, but is by NO means the end-all solution. I wasn't attacking a method and calling it ineffective, we use that method and make many thousands with it. I teach it.

I'm sorry you took offense to my statements and made assumptions, and I think I deserve an apology for you making claims about my coaching that are grossly inaccurate on a public forum.

In my opinion, you have absolutely no room to be offended...why would you be with my earlier post? On the other hand, I think I have every right to be offended by what you just posted. Extremely unprofessional for you to post completely false statements about things you don't have a clue about.

I think it just boiled down to a communication issue that caused you to make completely inaccurate assumptions.

I'm sorry if I offended you...NOTHING was directed at you or your coaching unlike your post to me. I do feel as if I am owed a public apology though for your incorrect assumptions and statements.

I'm sorry you feel threatened, but you really shouldn't. If you'd like to learn more about my coaching before posting more incorrect statements, please send me a PM first before you publicly slam me. Sad really.

PS...because my response to this thread was basically "this is what I would look for in good coaching" your post should have been in the same light. You could have also said your opinion for what you would look for. Instead, you specifically made up things about my coaching and attacked me personally.