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13 years ago

First of all, stop trying several campaigns on many platforms. Decide on what type of traffic you are going to work with and then stick with it for a while. Also, choose a vertical and don't try to promote many different things. You need to understand how a specific platform works as well as the behavior of a specific public.

I know that many people say that diversification is important, and I agree 100%, but focus is more important for people who are just starting, so don't try too many things at once.

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Kenster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

First of all, stop trying several campaigns on many platforms. Decide on what type of traffic you are going to work with and then stick with it for a while. Also, choose a vertical and don't try to promote many different things. You need to understand how a specific platform works as well as the behavior of a specific public.

I know that many people say that diversification is important, and I agree 100%, but focus is more important for people who are just starting, so don't try too many things at once.

William

Yep, Diversification as a strategy should be pursued AFTER you know what you're doing. The point of diversification is to minimize risk and secure a stable income. If you dont have any risk or income yet, then diversification is pointless.

I think a lot of newbs try and use the concept of diversification as an excuse to jump from method to method.

But to the OP, yes make sure you are focusing so you can sstart learning and earning with one traffic source. Then move on to dominate the world! Best of luck

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KevScarb

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

First of all, stop trying several campaigns on many platforms. Decide on what type of traffic you are going to work with and then stick with it for a while. Also, choose a vertical and don't try to promote many different things. You need to understand how a specific platform works as well as the behavior of a specific public.

I know that many people say that diversification is important, and I agree 100%, but focus is more important for people who are just starting, so don't try too many things at once.

William

Great advice, I hope people listen to you William. You need a benchmark, something that you can compare to, a place to start and build from. It is the only way to make sense of the numbers. This is something most who start out get wrong, they try everything and end up mastering nothing, then think nothing works.

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johnkn

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

First of all, stop trying several campaigns on many platforms. Decide on what type of traffic you are going to work with and then stick with it for a while. Also, choose a vertical and don't try to promote many different things. You need to understand how a specific platform works as well as the behavior of a specific public.

I know that many people say that diversification is important, and I agree 100%, but focus is more important for people who are just starting, so don't try too many things at once.

William

Ok, this one was for me.

I have been trying several things on different platforms just to fail miserably.

I think that now it's time for me to focus on one particular campaign and don't start another one before getting profitable with it. I hope I can keep myself under control and do it!

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odwyer1980

13 years ago

I'd suggest the same.

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uzair21

13 years ago

Actually I don't run all the campaigns at simultaneously. I spend $30-$40 on a campaign to determine if it is profitable. So far, I have flushed $500+ down the toilet. That is not even including the tools and ebooks. I take it slow, but there is something I am not getting yet.

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Kenster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by uzair21

Actually I don't run all the campaigns at simultaneously. I spend $30-$40 on a campaign to determine if it is profitable. So far, I have flushed $500+ down the toilet. That is not even including the tools and ebooks. I take it slow, but there is something I am not getting yet.

Welcome to the learning curve! It can be painful, particularly if you are starting with paid traffic

Things click and you will learn though. Just make sure to test small until you find a glimmer of hope, then start working that campaign and see if its worth putting more time and energy into.

Be methodical about super specific with your tracking and testing. I feel your pain man...i've been there

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uzair21

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Welcome to the learning curve! It can be painful, particularly if you are starting with paid traffic

Things click and you will learn though. Just make sure to test small until you find a gimmer of hope, then start working that campaign and see if its worth putting more time and energy into.

Be methodical about super specific with your tracking and testing. I feel your pain man...i've been there

UltimateIM looks interesting.
Question: How much investment do I need to get started? I am ready to learn as long as I know if I am losing/making money within 2-3 days of spending it. That is apart from the course fee ofcourse.

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gcastagno

13 years ago

Please don't take this the wrong way, but.....

Wow, with a title like this to a thread, you really are asking for the money vultures to come out and tell you that their methods are the best investment and if you plough your funds into their instructional manual, you can't go wrong

This is the Marketing game and you really can't afford to be a jack of all trades but master of none otherwise you will soon be watching those funds of yours dwindle.

In these few posts alone, there is already golden information that a lot of newbies do not follow, and I completely agree with what kenster says:

Things click and you will learn though. Just make sure to test small until you find a gimmer of hope, then start working that campaign and see if its worth putting more time and energy into.

Apply this as this will stop you losing too much in the begining.

As for how much investment.. I would hardly any. Read up around the plethora of information online and DON'T GET DRAWN INTO ANY GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES just yet. Learn, find your footing and then start off applying the basics.

You will soon be adding to these new skills and building from there.

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uzair21

13 years ago

Originally Posted by gcastagno

Please don't take this the wrong way, but.....

Wow, with a title like this to a thread, you really are asking for the money vultures to come out and tell you that their methods are the best investment and if you plough your funds into their instructional manual, you can't go wrong

Haha. Yes, of course.
I have been trying some PPC and PPV techniques hardly without breaking-even. I am running in loses

. I know it is actually necessary for learning, what I don't understand is how much 'spending' is enough to determine if a product/offer is profitable. Like this PPV campaign I am running right now, I made $11 after spending $30 xD.
It is good to have you guys around here to guide newbies like me.

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Kenster

13 years ago

Originally Posted by uzair21

UltimateIM looks interesting.
Question: How much investment do I need to get started? I am ready to learn as long as I know if I am losing/making money within 2-3 days of spending it. That is apart from the course fee ofcourse.

PM sent.

Originally Posted by gcastagno

Please don't take this the wrong way, but.....

Wow, with a title like this to a thread, you really are asking for the money vultures to come out and tell you that their methods are the best investment and if you plough your funds into their instructional manual, you can't go wrong

This is the Marketing game and you really can't afford to be a jack of all trades but master of none otherwise you will soon be watching those funds of yours dwindle.

In these few posts alone, there is already golden information that a lot of newbies do not follow, and I completely agree with what kenster says:
Apply this as this will stop you losing too much in the begining.

As for how much investment.. I would hardly any. Read up around the plethora of information online and DON'T GET DRAWN INTO ANY GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES just yet. Learn, find your footing and then start off applying the basics.

You will soon be adding to these new skills and building from there.

If you do buy into a course (many are helpful though not necessary) make sure to stick with it. People all the time jump around when in truth, most courses, if you stick it out and work your butt off and know that you will have to work above and beyond any course out there, work. They simply do, its a matter of making them work and sticking with it long enough.

I just spoke to somebody the other day who listed every single course he bought and every piece of software he bought or currently has a subcription to. In truth, this guy probably had 5x the number of tools and resources I use and has yet to make a profit any month in his IM career. Tools and courses mean zilch if you don't put them to work and work them into a concrete strategy you have.

There is plenty of free tools and resources out there, you can build your business without ever spending a penny...its amazing and true. If you do venture down the tool, course, or product path...do yourself a favor and stick with it.

Best of luck!

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bulkreo

13 years ago

you can invest at some website that is reliable, like you can buy some program and in return can get money..

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Herbert S Richter

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by uzair21

Haha. Yes, of course.
I have been trying some PPC and PPV techniques hardly without breaking-even. I am running in loses

. I know it is actually necessary for learning, what I don't understand is how much 'spending' is enough to determine if a product/offer is profitable. Like this PPV campaign I am running right now, I made $11 after spending $30 xD.
It is good to have you guys around here to guide newbies like me.

Hello, uzair21

Am new fairly new here and not really allowed to send PM's.

I've had some success via POF and Maxbounty on some Bizz Opp Offers.

Would love to discuss this more with you. Contact me directly on joe@boxoffice-hq.info

We need to talk.

Thanks!

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mark587905

13 years ago

Learn CPV/PPV, done correctly you will earn big bucks. See my signature for help on this.

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livingdreams

13 years ago

This worked for me - Investing my time to help others. Giving freely with no expectations - called Giving from the Heart. This is how I continue to be blessed.

Do it with a joyful and open heart. And don’t expect anything in return. But don’t be surprised if the “storehouses of heaven” open up and you receive abundant blessings in return, because you decided to give a gift of the heart.

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deus ex

13 years ago

CPV/PPV is best --- FOCUS is essential to all cpa earnings. If you need coaching, you need to just use the free forums. You can ask me for help, I'd be happy to give free advice.

A question; what verticals are you focusing on? Are you focusing on collecting emails?

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uzair21

13 years ago

Originally Posted by deus ex

CPV/PPV is best --- FOCUS is essential to all cpa earnings. If you need coaching, you need to just use the free forums. You can ask me for help, I'd be happy to give free advice.

A question; what verticals are you focusing on? Are you focusing on collecting emails?

I am not collecting Emails as yet. I am linking directly to the sale/email submit pages but the ROI is in negative.

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Firstrate

13 years ago

I'm a big PPV guy so will always recommend PPV above anything else but I think the key thing for you is to just pick one thing and STICK AT IT.

Many people move from offer to offer, traffic source to traffic source, method to method chasing the next big thing.

It's a much better idea to pick one thing and focus hard at it because at the end of they day - they all work. Someone is already making money with it

It really comes down to personal preference and what you enjoy.

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ChrisBa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by uzair21

Ok, so here is the deal. I have had a bit of success with earning online. Earn some money with AdSense, provide some services etc. But nothing big. I want to get rich, though I know it will take time.
I am a bit new to affiliate marketing. I have run a few facebook, adwords, mediatraffic campaigns now and then with little or no success. I might be doing something wrong but don't know what.
I have tried to promote CPA offers, clickbank products, webhosting(I know, very competitive) and the likes.
I just want to learn something that gives me a positive ROI. I don't mind if it takes me $1000 dollars to learn it, or a month or year. Just something that works.

Honestly - pick 1 traffic source, and learn it inside out. Jumping around between several different ones will make it very difficult to succeed.

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excuzemee

13 years ago

I can tell you EXACTLY where to spend your money and time.

Fnd something you are interesting, something you think you like, spend some time and a little money learning about THAT.

You must realize, that learning something means you are going to fail at it, so try to limit your losses, and learn form your mistakes. Then stick with it until you master it. Then move on to the next, then the next... and so on.

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Jilted

13 years ago

I say stick with what you know and your good at. Over time, learn little by little something else. That's what I do and how I roll ...

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Shaan

13 years ago

Hey
Thought i'd get used to writing on the Forum. My personal opinion is that i've always struggled to make money online, but being resilient i found an interesting take on the situation. Many marketers believe that by selling a product on a website it will sell. I think the golden rule here is building your list. Building your list, i know can sound boring and frustrating but when you think about it, does actually make sense. If you have a list that you've built you can then re-direct them to a squeeze page and gradually build up a list of people you can market too.

Doing it this way means you can generate a sustainable income. The other important point is it can take time to build a business. Another problem is once you've got your squeeze page, you wont be able to find it online, that's because the search engines don't recognise them. You have to drive traffic to a squeeze page to get the results. Of course you need to make sure you over deliver and give your customer something of value, something that's well thought through. It's interesting to note that by offering free stuff of quality at this stage that you are likely to strike rapport amongst your customers and thus they are more likely to buy through your squeeze page. Remember that traffic doesn't have to always cost money. I think though it's important to establish yourself in one Niche first, get a feel for it and just see what happens. Hope you find this useful.

Thank you for reading!!!

Kind Regards

Shaan

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