Plan To Make 100k Profit With CPA

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I'm done bull****ting with CPA time to get rich.

"Some people will say damn I made alot of money on the internet, some will say well at least I tried, others will say i regret not trying it out for myself" - Shoemoney

Now is the time not tomorrow!
Learned so much on here and been waiting for the "aha" moment to come. Well that moment has not arrived, doubt it ever will.

I guess it's back to the good old "what's working" for me. So far have a few successes, gonna bank on those and move forward.

Here is my plan after 2 months of reading studying and testing. BTW side note I already make a full time living off my online business ventures. (non-cpa).

Here is the plan:

Will use these traffic sources in this order.

Expected 1k-5k profit level
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1. CPV trafficvance, leadimpact, directcpv, and Media Traffic.
If I focus on these 4 only should be lovely as I will master them.

Tracking tool Cpvlab will tell me exactly what Urls and keywords are converting.
drop dead ones and move on.

5k-25k profit level
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2. Once I find a profitable campaign I will scale it using the 4 networks above (cpv)
then move onto PPC Facebook, Adcenter, and possibly adwords.

25k-100k profit level
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At this point I should have all my ads that work well..

3. If the campaign is still rocking past step 2, then it's time for the BIG daddy. Media buys!
will start off with Direct Media buys then find best banners to use. Testing grounds here.

Once I have my "working banners" that convert well.
4. will move onto Adbrite, Pulse360(beast), Advertising.com (Aol), Adblade, Advertise.com.

At this point I should break 100k profit if all goes well.

Anyone have some input on this process? As it's an already proven process from the Rockstar Alliance however they use banners much sooner in this process.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Hey Carlos ,

    I wish you all the best .

    I have no doubt that you are going to make it sooner or later .
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  • Profile picture of the author George Phillip
    You are already halfway there, because you believe it is possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrktxprt
      I totally agree with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author genti555
    Amish Shah just released a 3000$ software that was capable of managing all the ads from within the software. I don't know if you have heard of it. maybe it would help a lot in the process.
    Good Luck
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by genti555 View Post

      Amish Shah just released a 3000$ software that was capable of managing all the ads from within the software. I don't know if you have heard of it. maybe it would help a lot in the process.
      Good Luck
      I heard many bad things about Amish especially about his magic bullet system. Ill stay away thanks though.
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  • Profile picture of the author swayman
    is that one year profit or monthly? Right now I'm at $20K/month level, I just reached $1K mark a day yesterday, I'm using PPC only, including Adwords.

    I'm thinking of scaling up using PPV. I've tried media traffic before but no luck, they sending me junk traffic. But I will give it another try.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by swayman View Post

      is that one year profit or monthly? Right now I'm at $20K/month level, I just reached $1K mark a day yesterday, I'm using PPC only, including Adwords.

      I'm thinking of scaling up using PPV. I've tried media traffic before but no luck, they sending me junk traffic. But I will give it another try.
      100k a Year is my plan, then will keep scaling, Ive met people doing 50k a day at affiliate summit west 2011, so I know it's possible! Good work on 20k Is that strictly Ppc to Cpa?

      Right now we do 12-16k a month profit from other online and offline businesses.
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      • Profile picture of the author quickies
        how much have you make money with these planning?
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by quickies View Post

          how much have you make money with these planning?
          I got this plan from a very wealthy person in the industry. Ive been working at it for 2 months with minimal results. But at least now i have the overall picture and tools needed to get the job done.

          Now it's a matter of working the plan. (already set up a bunch of new campaigns in 4 different Cpv networks) As soon as the campaigns are approved ill know what's working and what's not working as soon as today.
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  • Profile picture of the author swayman
    Yes that's 100% CPC to CPA.
    so my profit is only about 60%, my monthly cost is around 10K. Luckily I get get weekly payment so that I can maintain my cost per week, this is only from one offer, I'm thinking of promoting Financial/insurance cpa soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ed H
      Originally Posted by swayman View Post

      Yes that's 100% CPC to CPA.
      so my profit is only about 60%, my monthly cost is around 10K. Luckily I get get weekly payment so that I can maintain my cost per week, this is only from one offer, I'm thinking of promoting Financial/insurance cpa soon.
      Hey swayman,

      Any suggestions on Reports or good systems for learning Cpc/CPV to CPA? No that I have some decent adsense income working, I'm ready to try a new strategy.

      Thanks for any tips..
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by swayman View Post

      Yes that's 100% CPC to CPA.
      so my profit is only about 60%, my monthly cost is around 10K. Luckily I get get weekly payment so that I can maintain my cost per week, this is only from one offer, I'm thinking of promoting Financial/insurance cpa soon.
      That's great man, how much testing and tweaking did you do to find this 1 campaign? Also did you have experience or did you just somehow get lucky and find this campaign that worked so well?

      Do you care to share which tools you are using for tracking and testing etc.?
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      • Profile picture of the author swayman
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        That's great man, how much testing and tweaking did you do to find this 1 campaign? Also did you have experience or did you just somehow get lucky and find this campaign that worked so well?

        Do you care to share which tools you are using for tracking and testing etc.?
        I always test an offer using SEO first, if the conversion is good then I start using PPC.

        I've been in the CPA business for about 2-3 years now, have tested hundreds of offers, I'm happy to let you know that it wasn't a coincidence, it's just a hard work paid of.

        I don't use any fancy tools for tracking and testing, for tracking I only using the SID code utility provided by the network. For PPC using Adwords and 2nd tier network such as 7search, advertise.com.
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by swayman View Post

          I always test an offer using SEO first, if the conversion is good then I start using PPC.

          I've been in the CPA business for about 2-3 years now, have tested hundreds of offers, I'm happy to let you know that it wasn't a coincidence, it's just a hard work paid of.

          I don't use any fancy tools for tracking and testing, for tracking I only using the SID code utility provided by the network. For PPC using Adwords and 2nd tier network such as 7search, advertise.com.
          That's what I figured hard work did pay off and it wasn't just luck. Didn't think it was blind luck however though id ask anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by jargonbust View Post

      i much time did it take to bring traffic to site
      If you are using paid traffic it can literally be instant traffic (not like SEO) where you will wait sometimes months to see any sort of results.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkMOZ
    Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

    I'm done bull****ting with CPA time to get rich.
    That about sums it up. Certainly you've got determination and desire for it. Now all you need is to dedicate some time to bring your plan to life!
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    Good luck, Carlos!

    My experience with PPV is limited, but don't hesitate to PM me if you need help with PPC!


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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Good plan although personally I would stay far, far away from Media Traffic.

    Used to be great for me and I made good money using them and now the traffic just seems like a waste of time plus their claims of impressions never match up with my own tracking and are a couple hundred off for every thousand.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      Good plan although personally I would stay far, far away from Media Traffic.

      Used to be great for me and I made good money using them and now the traffic just seems like a waste of time plus their claims of impressions never match up with my own tracking and are a couple hundred off for every thousand.
      good to know, I will spend my final $100 I have with them to make sure for myself, I appreciate the heads up.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonydyt
    Good luck carlos,

    DM is your looking for some cool CPA gaming offers.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    good sharing and excellent planning. wish you all the best with your plan in future. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author mrckc
    Good Luck Carlos - Keep us posted
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    • Profile picture of the author Reid Stevens
      Hey Carlos,

      I know you will do it. I like your attitude, do not take no for an answer.

      Just wake up each day and take MASSIVE action everyday and you will be there in no time.

      Take Care
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  • Profile picture of the author masterofinternate
    Hey CarlosG,
    Nice planning. At least you're following a way to make profit but most of us are running without any planning. Don't forget to share the success with us.
    Wish you all the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ed H
      Hey Carlos,

      How much are you planning for Ad spend to start each campaign level with?

      Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by vans View Post

        Hey Carlos,

        How much are you planning for Ad spend to start each campaign level with?

        Looking forward to seeing your progress.
        About double the payout, so for example offer I am using now is $32.75 payout.
        I will spend $65 before shutting it down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ed H
    This a good way to think about it, thanks.

    I assume this is just for initial testing? If you see a positive ROI, do you have a similar formula on how to scale it?
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by vans View Post

      This a good way to think about it, thanks.

      I assume this is just for initial testing? If you see a positive ROI, do you have a similar formula on how to scale it?
      Once I see positive ROI, then I can scale it by adding more URLS and Keywords and more traffic sources as Steps shown in OP.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ed H
        Got it, thanks. Do you have a formula or rule of thumb you are using to decide what the max spend becomes on that campaign once ROI is proven? Or do you just saturate and max out the available traffic?
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by vans View Post

          Got it, thanks. Do you have a formula or rule of thumb you are using to decide what the max spend becomes on that campaign once ROI is proven? Or do you just saturate and max out the available traffic?
          If your making money at that point I will max out as many traffic sources as possible as stated in OP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

    I'm done bull****ting with CPA time to get rich.

    "Some people will say damn I made alot of money on the internet, some will say well at least I tried, others will say i regret not trying it out for myself" - Shoemoney

    Now is the time not tomorrow!
    Learned so much on here and been waiting for the "aha" moment to come. Well that moment has not arrived, doubt it ever will.

    I guess it's back to the good old "what's working" for me. So far have a few successes, gonna bank on those and move forward.

    Here is my plan after 2 months of reading studying and testing. BTW side note I already make a full time living off my online business ventures. (non-cpa).

    Here is the plan:

    Will use these traffic sources in this order.

    Expected 1k-5k profit level
    --------------------------
    1. CPV trafficvance, leadimpact, directcpv, and Media Traffic.
    If I focus on these 4 only should be lovely as I will master them.

    Tracking tool Cpvlab will tell me exactly what Urls and keywords are converting.
    drop dead ones and move on.

    5k-25k profit level
    -----------------
    2. Once I find a profitable campaign I will scale it using the 4 networks above (cpv)
    then move onto PPC Facebook, Adcenter, and possibly adwords.

    25k-100k profit level
    --------------------
    At this point I should have all my ads that work well..

    3. If the campaign is still rocking past step 2, then it's time for the BIG daddy. Media buys!
    will start off with Direct Media buys then find best banners to use. Testing grounds here.

    Once I have my "working banners" that convert well.
    4. will move onto Adbrite, Pulse360(beast), Advertising.com (Aol), Adblade, Advertise.com.

    At this point I should break 100k profit if all goes well.

    Anyone have some input on this process? As it's an already proven process from the Rockstar Alliance however they use banners much sooner in this process.



    100k is well within reach if you work hard.


    Think about it...100k a year is only $275 a day. This is pretty much converting under 10 higher paying offer per day which isn't terribly difficult if you are seeing thousands of visitors per day.

    If you are going the paid traffic route (which it seems you are) then getting the traffic isn't the hard part, but rather converting the traffic. BUT, if you do convert the traffic at a positive margin, then you can scale and hit some much more substantial numbers than the $275 net per day.


    My advice would be to make sure you are in it 100%, make sure you are ready to work hard, and don't look for shortcuts at first. Look for shortcuts after you find something that works!

    Best of luck, hope to see you in the winners circle!
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      My advice would be to make sure you are in it 100%, make sure you are ready to work hard, and don't look for shortcuts at first. Look for shortcuts after you find something that works!
      I already work super hard and make about $550 a day profit, and I don't give up so it will be done, it's just a matter of time. In my OP I stated that I was waiting for that AHA moment (shortcut).. Well I don't expect it anymore, just gotta put the work in and do it. Thanks Kenster for motivation to keep going.
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      • Profile picture of the author swayman
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        I already work super hard and make about $550 a day profit, and I don't give up so it will be done, it's just a matter of time. In my OP I stated that I was waiting for that AHA moment (shortcut).. Well I don't expect it anymore, just gotta put the work in and do it. Thanks Kenster for motivation to keep going.
        Yea I feel you man, on second thought, I hate to feel that it was in fact just a coincidence, I also trying to find that AHA moment that I could repeat on other verticals, that's why I want to try another niche to see if I can make the same profit/success.
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by swayman View Post

          Yea I feel you man, on second thought, I hate to feel that it was in fact just a coincidence, I also trying to find that AHA moment that I could repeat on other verticals, that's why I want to try another niche to see if I can make the same profit/success.
          Yes just like Kenster said, don't do shortcuts until you have successes then look for shortcuts. One such shortcut can be going into different verticals with same concepts and replicate or as others like to say, rinse, repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheprofitzone
    gud luck..as for me, i have more to learn
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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    Thanks that is huge project you want it to come per month or do you want it to come every year or do you want to come for your first year...

    But it is good you are taking advice from us and planing and doing...

    In the internet marketing world planing is very important to do....

    Thanks for sharing that it inspire a lot..
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    This is how it starts:

    had a small success with an email/zip submit offer awhile back, brought it back to life with good keywords and urls only in 1 day it's ok again.



    just need to find a better higher payout market that converts soon. which I am already testing as well.

    Also this is PPV which i think is much faster and easier to get started with. again, once I find a good converting offer I will scale it with PPC and media buys. oh well not much but it's a start.
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    BTW I did not show the losing keywords and urls which there were many as well (just so any newbies don't think it's all cake walk.)
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    • Profile picture of the author ex9to5guy
      Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

      BTW I did not show the losing keywords and urls which there were many as well (just so any newbies don't think it's all cake walk.)

      lol i was going to say, with that success you could start coaching and charge 50grand per person haha...good luck, looks like you are well on your way

      are u directlinking? ive tried email subs with ppv but didnt have much success
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by futuremills View Post

        are u directlinking? ive tried email subs with ppv but didnt have much success
        For the email submit I have a squeeze page, that basically says "welcome ABC.com customer here is a chance to get XXXX" make it's seem like it's part of the actual site they landed on.

        They submit the email, then it's redirected to the offer.

        Im sure not making as much money as I should here but the Ppv network does not allow direct linking to this particular campaign because of a exit pop up on the offer page..

        I am being paid to build a list of targeted prospects for future email offers, which currently has 20 email follow up sequence.
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  • Profile picture of the author redoak98012
    Good Luck with your plan, I look forward to hearing bout your success
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    • Profile picture of the author flyguy017
      Hello Carlos,
      Good going and keep up the work. What method do you find most valuable for learning PPV and where.

      What monitoring software was your screen shot taken from for tracking?

      Todd
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by flyguy017 View Post

        Hello Carlos,
        Good going and keep up the work. What method do you find most valuable for learning PPV and where.

        What monitoring software was your screen shot taken from for tracking?

        Todd
        Todd for PPV look for a Wso from Mike Morgan it's a good crash course on Ppv, also look for Stephon Phon (on google) this guy actually walks you step by step on a video format on how to create campaigns (made for new people I guess).

        EDIT: You also need a url scraper - I use affportal.com and you also need to test for yourself what will work and what will not work, no one can tell you this, you must test for yourself.

        The tracking software is CPVlab I was using prosper202 before did not work well for me.

        This Cpvlab is awsome, Now I know exactly what's making money or not and it has MANY cool features. If you search on google it's easy to find. A bit expensive but well worth the price if your serious about Ppv. Before it took me 15-20 minutes to set up on prosper202 now takes 5 minutes in Cpvlab.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fred1
    Thanks for sharing, Carlos! Good success with your plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author myvps
    nice plan,keep your work and Keep us poste.
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  • Profile picture of the author LymeJosh
    This is a solid mentality. It's very to the point but takes building up, but also be creative with things. Realize all of the different traffic sources you can find, they are endless in each niche. Realize keywords, and specific url's to bid on for your campaigns. If you thought creatively and efficiently, and not just trying to grind "ahh" moments out of your head, then you'll start to realize how micro-niches can be the extreme power in profits / low competition / low bidding.
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  • Profile picture of the author ArchDuke
    Just do it man! Goodluck! Remember, don't stop thinking outside the box and IMAGINATION is key. Keep your hopes up! If you get disappointed, that means you should have tried harder!
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  • Profile picture of the author azwar
    Good plan Carlos! I'm new in CPA and thanks for inspiring me.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    yeah its a good plan. at least you don't want to earn a 100K in just 7 days or just by struggling a bit. right? so i think its time to start your 1st campaigning and make the desired profit. i believe that it is totally possible if you work hard a bit and struggle in the right way.
    so wish you all the best for your 1st plan!
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by marketwarrior06 View Post

      yeah its a good plan. at least you don't want to earn a 100K in just 7 days or just by struggling a bit. right? so i think its time to start your 1st campaigning and make the desired profit. i believe that it is totally possible if you work hard a bit and struggle in the right way.
      so wish you all the best for your 1st plan!
      No I don't plan to make this profit in 7 days. I will make this profit this year. Already found my market after careful research and now it's time to get it started. (btw) I already have 5 failed campaigns this will be my 6th try. However with my experience and research im sure this new market I'm working on is not overly saturated and will be easy to tap into using paid and free traffic sources.
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      • Profile picture of the author swayman
        Carlos, what is your number 1 choice of PPV? I never really had any success using MT.
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by swayman View Post

          Carlos, what is your number 1 choice of PPV? I never really had any success using MT.
          Start with Leadimpact it's the choice of many as a starting point.
          Quick tip always use POP Under not Pop Over on MT platform. (is what I have heard).
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    Quick update: I have had about 4 failed campaigns in ppv but now that I am tracking it clearly I am not wasting time. I have had 1 good ROI campaign which I cannot scale yet because I think it's the wrong market and it's only a email submit. I am still working on finding a good market..

    Next market on my list is either Dating or Penny Auctions (which has a $90.00 payout)

    I have also worked on my other domains that get organic search traffic and have been doing decent returns with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author ravnic
      Remember it is not always the payout. if there is no buzz for the subject then you are not going to get people to respond to your marketing. check out trends. I love using google insights as a starting point.
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by ravnic View Post

        Remember it is not always the payout. if there is no buzz for the subject then you are not going to get people to respond to your marketing. check out trends. I love using google insights as a starting point.
        Sell what people are buying!
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    • Profile picture of the author suedormo
      dude if you make it, write a ebook about it and sell it on clickbank you will make more money
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by suedormo View Post

        dude if you make it, write a ebook about it and sell it on clickbank you will make more money
        Please be joking about this, I will make more money on my ebook on clickbank? highly doubtful.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    Solid plan Carlos! Please keep up the good work and keep us updated if you can

    All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    I found it! Setting up:

    CPV > Squeeze page > Offer as we speak
    also at the same time going to build out an entire timed massive back linking campaign (seo) after this will follow my plan.. This market is huge with over 500k people searching a month. & a proven 2 billion dollar a year industry. not sure how soon I will update this thread again, for now gonna be busy! thanks everyone for the support.
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  • Profile picture of the author John David
    Hi Carlos ,

    Any updates on your campaigns .

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by John David View Post


      Any updates on your campaigns .
      I had a few losing campaigns in CPV, about 9 or so losers and 1 small time winner. the winner is making about $10 a day. I paused all my campaigns at this time except the small winner.

      Been slacking on this plan because I had to fire/hire a new worker at my other business. been training the new person. *busy

      Also started working with a coach. Now been focused on PPC (facebook). I can see this working, it just takes so much persistence.

      I have not been able to make PPV profitable at this time except my small winner, However It I think it's a great list building tool. (if you have time to nurture your list, which I don't)

      So basically my update is that I have stopped using PPV for now and jumped into facebook almost breaking even there at least. once I break even all I have to do is optimize my campaigns for profit!

      BTW the small winner is a direct linking email submit offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author John2012
    Azoogleads network does not allow directcpv traffic, your account will be banned
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by John2012 View Post

      Azoogleads network does not allow directcpv traffic, your account will be banned
      I am not promoting azoogle with PPV and I verify with AM before promoting anything with PPV.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bobp35
    Hi: I am new to cpa submit offers. Can anyone tell me "What are your preferred verticals?" means?
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by Bobp35 View Post

      Hi: I am new to cpa submit offers. Can anyone tell me "What are your preferred verticals?" means?
      A vertical simply is another word for Market, so the question means what is your preferred market? in which you can say, Dating, Gaming, Etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
    That is a good target to aim at ,what is your current achievement in terms of financials.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by BILLSBILLION View Post

      That is a good target to aim at ,what is your current achievement in terms of financials.
      In terms of CPA only currently doing about $100-$400 a month (without Ppc) with Ppc this goal is attainable.

      Overall financials is in the high 6 figures yearly.
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  • Profile picture of the author HappyHourInfo
    Dude CarlosG, you are the man. Just discovered and went through this thread and you are really giving us the almost daily inside scoop. It is interesting though that you were not able to capitalize on your subscriber lists. I would send them the offer again and others gradually. But I may have overlooked/misunderstood what was said.

    Will try the Pop Under method with MT. I was always told Pop Over but I believe their traffic is adapting and probably have an impulse to X out Pop Overs.

    Thanks alot for the updates and I wish you well.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by whosetheman View Post

      Dude CarlosG, you are the man. Just discovered and went through this thread and you are really giving us the almost daily inside scoop. It is interesting though that you were not able to capitalize on your subscriber lists. I would send them the offer again and others gradually. But I may have overlooked/misunderstood what was said.

      Will try the Pop Under method with MT. I was always told Pop Over but I believe their traffic is adapting and probably have an impulse to X out Pop Overs.

      Thanks alot for the updates and I wish you well.
      I build a small list rather quickly, I also had a email sequence with 10 or so emails that went back to the offer & to other pages with ads.

      However I was not tracking all of this (which keywords etc.) I got bored of it because I didn't know much except that I was losing money so I paused it and got a coach.

      I will give PPV another try, but for now I will continue with facebook it's a BEAST..

      And I think your right about people adapting to the pop up. In CPV lab you can set what's called an engage rate that times how long the window is actually open before they close it. if it's less than 3 seconds CPV lab will not even count it (which gives you real numbers) on who actually looked at your page.
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      • Profile picture of the author PabloVTB
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        I build a small list rather quickly, I also had a email sequence with 10 or so emails that went back to the offer & to other pages with ads.

        However I was not tracking all of this (which keywords etc.) I got bored of it because I didn't know much except that I was losing money so I paused it and got a coach.

        I will give PPV another try, but for now I will continue with facebook it's a BEAST..

        And I think your right about people adapting to the pop up. In CPV lab you can set what's called an engage rate that times how long the window is actually open before they close it. if it's less than 3 seconds CPV lab will not even count it (which gives you real numbers) on who actually looked at your page.
        I did not know about CPV Lab. Thanks for the data.
        And congratulations for achieving results.
        Keep us posted
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    I wish you to be there, because half of these forum is dreaming of these amount of money
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  • Profile picture of the author cicicpa
    Good luck, Carlos ! It's a good plan, wish to hear your latest progres
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    Update, this month has been crazy already. Facebook is a beast however they are very tough on their rules!<p>
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    This stuff actually works, just so you know this is not all profit but it just proves to me that it works! I will not stop. Today I am also going to upload about 5 campaigns to facebook and 1 to Lead Impact.
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    Should continue to post to this thread since I get email notifications, but very busy nowadays to keep up with tracking and traffic sources etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG


    as you can see these are real checks
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    • Profile picture of the author Dgross
      Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post


      as you can see these are real checks
      I too am looking forward to watching you exceed your goals :-)

      I haven't done too much with FB yet... too afraid to lose money right now :-(

      Are you collecting emails or just linking to the offer?
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by Dgross View Post

        I too am looking forward to watching you exceed your goals :-)

        I haven't done too much with FB yet... too afraid to lose money right now :-(

        Are you collecting emails or just linking to the offer?
        This one is a direct link offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post



      as you can see these are real checks
      Am I the only one that can see a flaw on this cheque lol

      I would have thought the name would be beside Pay and the amount beside To the order of, must just be me :confused::confused::confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

        Am I the only one that can see a flaw on this cheque lol

        I would have thought the name would be beside Pay and the amount beside To the order of, must just be me :confused::confused::confused:
        It's just you LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author iamphob
    Hi Carlos ,Very good plan.

    I wish for you to reach your goal very soon.

    iamphob
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by iamphob View Post

      Hi Carlos ,Very good plan.

      I wish for you to reach your goal very soon.

      iamphob
      Thanks, It will be done it's just a matter of time & I'm not in a hurry because the process is really what matters, once you master the process the sky is the limit.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        Thanks, It will be done it's just a matter of time & I'm not in a hurry because the process is really what matters, once you master the process the sky is the limit.

        Yep, the thing about making money online is that a lot of times, your growth is exponential and explosive. Maybe you hove making $20/day or whatever you are making and then BAM, you find something that works well, you scale your campaign, you duplicate the crap out of it, or whatever and you jump right up to $500/day. Then hover there and find something else that takes off and BAM, right up to $1,000 per day.

        Unlike many offline businesses, income doesn't slowly trend up nearly as much...which is good and bad.

        Also remember that you can jump down just as fast and explosive as you jumped up!
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          Also remember that you can jump down just as fast and explosive as you jumped up!
          Very true man, I had a campaign doing $50+ a day profit then facebook decided to shut it down without warning! luckily I have many other sources of income online and offline. Even my other online businesses that have been around for years tend to fall off some months then come back all of a sudden.
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          • Profile picture of the author ViperSilver
            Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

            Very true man, I had a campaign doing $50+ a day profit then facebook decided to shut it down without warning! luckily I have many other sources of income online and offline. Even my other online businesses that have been around for years tend to fall off some months then come back all of a sudden.
            wow thats disappointing, sorry to hear mate
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
            Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

            Very true man, I had a campaign doing $50+ a day profit then facebook decided to shut it down without warning! luckily I have many other sources of income online and offline. Even my other online businesses that have been around for years tend to fall off some months then come back all of a sudden.
            Hey Carlos ,

            It is really irritating to hear like that . I am really sorry .

            BTW, did you contact them for clarification .
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            • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
              Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

              Hey Carlos ,

              It is really irritating to hear like that . I am really sorry .

              BTW, did you contact them for clarification .
              Yes it was the specific offer, FB did not want anyone promoting that offer anymore so It was shut down without warning.
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  • Profile picture of the author poccolector
    hey carlos,great thread...
    so as I understand you are now using facebook ppc?
    Can you tell me how much do you pay for each click,and how much do you get for a lead? Do you send them to your presales page or directly to the offer?
    Are you working only with peerfly or with others too?
    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by poccolector View Post

      hey carlos,great thread...
      so as I understand you are now using facebook ppc?
      Can you tell me how much do you pay for each click,and how much do you get for a lead? Do you send them to your presales page or directly to the offer?
      Are you working only with peerfly or with others too?
      Thanks!
      I have tested many traffic sources, facebook is pretty good. also I am using lead impact ppv which has been good too. Im going to start scaling soon as I have found good offers that convert well.

      You must test for yourself, but I start with $.70 CPC normally they only charge me max $.40 cpc avg. I do direct link to offer & I'm using Neverblue and Peerfly however I have accounts to 14 CPA networks just in case one of them dries up. The payouts are normally $3.00 - $4.25
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      • Profile picture of the author poccolector
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        I have tested many traffic sources, facebook is pretty good. also I am using lead impact ppv which has been good too. Im going to start scaling soon as I have found good offers that convert well.

        You must test for yourself, but I start with $.70 CPC normally they only charge me max $.40 cpc avg. I do direct link to offer & I'm using Neverblue and Peerfly however I have accounts to 14 CPA networks just in case one of them dries up. The payouts are normally $3.00 - $4.25
        What is your CR ?
        These offers must be good..

        Can you explain me how do you arrange $.70 CPC and they charge you max $.40 cpc avg ??

        I tried to set up some fb advertising to see how it works,but I dont understand how can you change the cost?
        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by poccolector View Post

          What is your CR ?
          These offers must be good..

          Can you explain me how do you arrange $.70 CPC and they charge you max $.40 cpc avg ??

          I tried to set up some fb advertising to see how it works,but I dont understand how can you change the cost?
          Thanks
          CR = conversion Rate.

          The Max CPC Bid Is $.70 however FB only chargers the highest bid next to yours. For example if Bidder #2 highest bid is $.39 CPC then FB will charge me $.40 As the highest bidder, it's a bidding platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author danz G
    facebook ads is better place to advertise.
    I have just Launch champaign for my cpa offer with facebook ads.
    hope it get big Results
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  • Profile picture of the author Baspi
    Good luck with you plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author wishfulsuccess
    hi carlos, it's really comforting seeing that people actually have success with this method! I'm actually a newbie... What are the things that someone learning the first ropes in CPA must take note of? Such as finding offers that are most likely to offer profits...


    From what i see, it seems like a very, very saturated market now....
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by wishfulsuccess View Post

      hi carlos, it's really comforting seeing that people actually have success with this method! I'm actually a newbie... What are the things that someone learning the first ropes in CPA must take note of? Such as finding offers that are most likely to offer profits...


      From what i see, it seems like a very, very saturated market now....
      It's saturated however there is a very large number of consumers over 6 million on facebook demographic I'm targeting. the offer has to be fun such as gaming or mobile or others etc. you have to think about the end user on facebook. the user in not in buying mode they in chat mode or relaxing mode.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    At the moment I am only with MB and FB dont allow direct linking to the offer. Is it better to use Peerfly or any other network with FB in your opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      At the moment I am only with MB and FB dont allow direct linking to the offer. Is it better to use Peerfly or any other network with FB in your opinion.
      I am actually using Neverblue for this offer screenshot shown of that account above. it's a direct link I FB has not had any issues with direct link. Also FB does not say you cannot direct link who told you this?
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      • Profile picture of the author the_icon
        Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

        I am actually using Neverblue for this offer screenshot shown of that account above. it's a direct link I FB has not had any issues with direct link. Also FB does not say you cannot direct link who told you this?
        I think its because I am linking to an offer that is country specific and it always gets rejected. I hear a lot of people say that they get rejected for direct linking to demographic targeted ads but maybe have something to do with who reviews them from FB ad team and what country they are from.
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

          I think its because I am linking to an offer that is country specific and it always gets rejected. I hear a lot of people say that they get rejected for direct linking to demographic targeted ads but maybe have something to do with who reviews them from FB ad team and what country they are from.
          As posted earlier I had a good campaign get shut down earlier this week. I found out that by simply emailing FB in the email they send out of disapproval they explain why they did not allow it. Don't guess on this part. Ask them!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    I have not done any CPV yet but am thinking about getting into it. Is facebook better though?
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by Mike McAleer View Post

      I have not done any CPV yet but am thinking about getting into it. Is facebook better though?
      it's a different animal altogether, I can say facebook traffic is higher quality. Simply can't compare these traffic sources side by side.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    I had 3 campaigns where this happened. Emailed them after the 1st and 2nd got rejected. No reply. 3 different offers. All targeted to the US. That was it. So if someone checks the target URL from outwith the US then they dont get what the ad relates to so they reject it.
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  • Profile picture of the author CNP3
    best of luck Carlos.. the hard work DOES pay off... it took me blowing about $20,000+ and 7 years before I saw any profit!

    Keep going man.. I am also looking more into CPA stuff now, as I realize that once I figure it out, that where a HUGE chunk of the market lies.

    Cya!
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by CNP3 View Post

      best of luck Carlos.. the hard work DOES pay off... it took me blowing about $20,000+ and 7 years before I saw any profit!

      Keep going man.. I am also looking more into CPA stuff now, as I realize that once I figure it out, that where a HUGE chunk of the market lies.

      Cya!
      Thanks for the support, I will keep going.
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  • Profile picture of the author John David
    Hey Carlos,How long doest it take you to reach $50 Per day with FAcebook .Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by John David View Post

      Hey Carlos,How long doest it take you to reach $50 Per day with FAcebook .Thanks
      Seriously I cannot answer this because I don't know your skill,s or experience, but It took me about 10 days of testing different things before I got to that point. Also I must say FB did stop that campaign, right now im stuck again waiting for some approvals again.
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  • Profile picture of the author martworld
    You didn't tell the exact method to earn really big from CPA.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by martworld View Post

      You didn't tell the exact method to earn really big from CPA.
      I gave you my exact plan in the OP
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonWestwick
    Hey Carlos, just want to wish you the best of luck, seems like you have your head screwed on and have worked out a solid plan to reach your desired income. So long as the motivation is there and you stick with it I see no reason why you wont reach and exceed that goal.

    Keep us updated on your progress.

    Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    Quick Update:
    I was super frustrated with the fact of losing a money maker and I went back to PPV
    while doing very little with Facebook.

    After a week or so I decided to go back to Facebook, I'm glad I did!

    Finally Found Another Money Maker From Facebook Ads again!
    Breaking about 95-110% ROI Per Day Profit. Now just have to optimize it for better ROI.

    I think I'm getting A lot less impressions than I should be, so I will test this as well with new campaigns in the same target market.

    Quick stats: My CTR is .2% which means I get 2 clicks for every thousand impressions. A conversion rate of 6%. The best part about this is that the offer pays out different amount for different age groups. Which means that 1 conversion for an older person makes $9.25, while a younger person makes $4.50.

    This overall payout has a nice flow and seems to work great for ROI.

    My next test is to lower my CPC Bid and check if impressions drop, also I will target my campaign by 1 year of age so for example 35 year old will be 1 ad group, 36 year old would be another ad group.
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    • Profile picture of the author zotium
      Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

      Quick Update:
      I was super frustrated with the fact of losing a money maker and I went back to PPV
      while doing very little with Facebook.

      After a week or so I decided to go back to Facebook, I'm glad I did!

      Finally Found Another Money Maker From Facebook Ads again!
      Breaking about 95-110% ROI Per Day Profit. Now just have to optimize it for better ROI.

      I think I'm getting A lot less impressions than I should be, so I will test this as well with new campaigns in the same target market.

      Quick stats: My CTR is .2% which means I get 2 clicks for every thousand impressions. A conversion rate of 6%. The best part about this is that the offer pays out different amount for different age groups. Which means that 1 conversion for an older person makes $9.25, while a younger person makes $4.50.

      This overall payout has a nice flow and seems to work great for ROI.

      My next test is to lower my CPC Bid and check if impressions drop, also I will target my campaign by 1 year of age so for example 35 year old will be 1 ad group, 36 year old would be another ad group.
      Hi Carlos, are you running the offer direct from advertiser or with a network? Which network pays with tiering by age group?
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by zotium View Post

        Hi Carlos, are you running the offer direct from advertiser or with a network? Which network pays with tiering by age group?
        Network.
        I don;t know about your question on age group sorry
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by zotium View Post

        Hi Carlos, are you running the offer direct from advertiser or with a network? Which network pays with tiering by age group?
        Ok i understand your question now, some offers payout different by age group in the Dating market.
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    • Profile picture of the author InternetWriter
      Originally Posted by andrewmartin9 View Post

      Always test an offer for SEO in the first place, if the conversion is good, then I can start using PPC. I've been in the business of the CPA for about 2-3 years, have tested hundreds of offers, I am happy to know that it was no coincidence, is just one of gainful employment.
      while that works for some, more money in just diving into it.
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      • Profile picture of the author John David
        Hey Carlos ,
        I have been studying Facebook and PPV for the past few months. Now, I am ready to pull the trigger.
        Should I start with facebook or PPV?
        Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
          Originally Posted by John David View Post

          Hey Carlos ,
          I have been studying Facebook and PPV for the past few months. Now, I am ready to pull the trigger.
          Should I start with facebook or PPV?
          Thanks.
          PPV with urls not keywords
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          • Profile picture of the author John David
            Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

            PPV with urls not keywords
            Thank you Carlos.
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  • Profile picture of the author charliedg
    One thing I've learned from doing IM full time for 3 years now is that things are constantly changing, with CPA specifically sometimes you'll get a profitable campaign and then when it's running good the offer will get pulled. Theres a lot of money to be made in CPA but you have to extremely flexible because offers come and go extremely fast! But your plan sounds great...start rolling it out and then adjust with the flow
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by charliedg View Post

      One thing I've learned from doing IM full time for 3 years now is that things are constantly changing, with CPA specifically sometimes you'll get a profitable campaign and then when it's running good the offer will get pulled. Theres a lot of money to be made in CPA but you have to extremely flexible because offers come and go extremely fast! But your plan sounds great...start rolling it out and then adjust with the flow

      If you aren't resilient in your business you can make a lot of money but it won't last. Things change fast and things are VERY dynamic online. This is good and bad.

      Its bad because it means you always need to be on your toes and always educating yourself on current trends in the industry.

      Its bad because change means opportunity. The more things change, the more pockets of opportunity open up. These opportunities are cash waiting to be had!
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by charliedg View Post

      One thing I've learned from doing IM full time for 3 years now is that things are constantly changing, with CPA specifically sometimes you'll get a profitable campaign and then when it's running good the offer will get pulled. Theres a lot of money to be made in CPA but you have to extremely flexible because offers come and go extremely fast! But your plan sounds great...start rolling it out and then adjust with the flow
      It changes too often for my taste, but I guess that's why it's so lucrative.
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  • Profile picture of the author dark witness
    interesting plan, make sure you keep us up to date with how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author kan3
    Great knowledge here for noobs like me. I just wish I knew a way to make that much profit. Anyone here who can guide?


    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
    Gotta update you guys, I got very discouraged these last 45 days.. I had something working then the offer got shut down. I got it back working then FB shut the campaign down.

    Had a PPV campaign going then my email server shut me down for spam complaints (finally got it back up did not want to lose my 25k subscribers). It's been 1 big mess after another. However I learned so much over this time frame!! YOU CANNOT JUST EXPECT TO JUMP FROM MARKET TO MARKET AND EXPECT TO MAKE MONEY. I finally am getting this through my THICK skull.

    Very fortunate to have a few extra dollars and time to invest into this to learn the ropes, it's very frustrating to get something to work just to have it shut down overnight!
    I took a good vacation from all of this to reflect on some things.

    Here is what I learned:
    1. Focus on 1 market don't jump around.
    2. Focus on 1 traffic source until you master it then move on.
    3. Never focus on the offer itself but the market in general
    4. Don't give up

    Right now my CPA market is Dating, and an Adult related market. I will focus on these 2 until i make it work!
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    • Profile picture of the author affmanager
      Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

      Gotta update you guys, I got very discouraged these last 45 days.. I had something working then the offer got shut down. I got it back working then FB shut the campaign down.

      Had a PPV campaign going then my email server shut me down for spam complaints (finally got it back up did not want to lose my 25k subscribers). It's been 1 big mess after another. However I learned so much over this time frame!! YOU CANNOT JUST EXPECT TO JUMP FROM MARKET TO MARKET AND EXPECT TO MAKE MONEY. I finally am getting this through my THICK skull.

      Very fortunate to have a few extra dollars and time to invest into this to learn the ropes, it's very frustrating to get something to work just to have it shut down overnight!
      I took a good vacation from all of this to reflect on some things.

      Here is what I learned:
      1. Focus on 1 market don't jump around.
      2. Focus on 1 traffic source until you master it then move on.
      3. Never focus on the offer itself but the market in general
      4. Don't give up

      Right now my CPA market is Dating, and an Adult related market. I will focus on these 2 until i make it work!
      Carlos,

      You started off in your OP mentioning the Rockstar Alliance. One thing I really liked in a fantastic presentation they did on the Rockstar Power Suite is the idea of monetization pathways. The example they gave, and a good one I know because I was recently in this business, is auto insurance leads. The idea is that you can't really make money in a sustainable manner until you add cross-sells and up-sells to your path. So, if you are getting a $12 payout on an auto insurance lead, you'll fail because you'll never be able to significantly lower your costs. Apparently, RPS can facilitate getting insurance payouts to the tune of over $100. Supposedly, THAT is how you become profitable -- focus on increasing your backend monetization, not reducing your CPC.

      Have you thought about this concept as it pertains to your new focus -- the Dating market? And if so, have you learned any more about the Rockstar Power Suite? I know it's $997 which is fine with me. But the KEY is figuring out how to "pile on" related offers so that your payouts go way up, enabling you to compete with ANYONE over the longer term. Oh, obviously this strategy rules out direct linking because you need multiple landing pages in order to have a "path".

      Please let me know your thoughts.

      You are one persistent dude. Keep it up. VERY valuable contributions you have given here for months now.

      J
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      • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
        Originally Posted by affmanager View Post

        Carlos,

        You started off in your OP mentioning the Rockstar Alliance. One thing I really liked in a fantastic presentation they did on the Rockstar Power Suite is the idea of monetization pathways. The example they gave, and a good one I know because I was recently in this business, is auto insurance leads. The idea is that you can't really make money in a sustainable manner until you add cross-sells and up-sells to your path. So, if you are getting a $12 payout on an auto insurance lead, you'll fail because you'll never be able to significantly lower your costs. Apparently, RPS can facilitate getting insurance payouts to the tune of over $100. Supposedly, THAT is how you become profitable -- focus on increasing your backend monetization, not reducing your CPC.

        Have you thought about this concept as it pertains to your new focus -- the Dating market? And if so, have you learned any more about the Rockstar Power Suite? I know it's $997 which is fine with me. But the KEY is figuring out how to "pile on" related offers so that your payouts go way up, enabling you to compete with ANYONE over the longer term. Oh, obviously this strategy rules out direct linking because you need multiple landing pages in order to have a "path".

        Please let me know your thoughts.

        You are one persistent dude. Keep it up. VERY valuable contributions you have given here for months now.

        J
        Very good points, no I have not added on any upsells or cross sells, as I have not been capturing leads for the dating market, and I can't see a good fit to cross-sell here. I have not been very focused on CPA too much as I stated I took a long break from it because I had so many issues arise since starting, as stated in previous post.

        Anyway I did invest in that program and I was there live in Vegas for the live presentations.
        I do not like the software at all and never used it.. They are very good presenters and showed much potential in this game and your point is right on about finding a market then up-selling and cross-selling as they proved in the presentation.

        Maybe in a few weeks I will test a new market and test this out, for now I must focus on 1 market and 1 market only.
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          Originally Posted by CarlosG View Post

          Very good points, no I have not added on any upsells or cross sells, as I have not been capturing leads for the dating market, and I can't see a good fit to cross-sell here. I have not been very focused on CPA too much as I stated I took a long break from it because I had so many issues arise since starting, as stated in previous post.

          Anyway I did invest in that program and I was there live in Vegas for the live presentations.
          I do not like the software at all and never used it.. They are very good presenters and showed much potential in this game and your point is right on about finding a market then up-selling and cross-selling as they proved in the presentation.

          Maybe in a few weeks I will test a new market and test this out, for now I must focus on 1 market and 1 market only.

          Just offer them more dating offers and sell them some dating products.

          Easy peasy!
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          • Profile picture of the author ivansoon
            CarlosG,

            You all mention making money online is apply CPA and promote at PPV ?

            Your reply is much appreciate

            Thanks you
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        Originally Posted by affmanager View Post


        The idea is that you can't really make money in a sustainable manner until you add cross-sells and up-sells to your path.
        Hey J,

        That is really a brilliant idea . I really liked it .
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  • Profile picture of the author kan3
    CarlosG are you providing any coaching services? I'm new into this and would like a expert to be my mentor.

    Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author CarlosG
      Originally Posted by kan3 View Post

      CarlosG are you providing any coaching services? I'm new into this and would like a expert to be my mentor.

      Thank you.
      sorry I am not, I recommend you look at Williamrs for coaching
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    Very awesome plan! Make sure you be careful with facebook ads I have been spent tons of money using fb ads and they hardly convert but i like the split testing idea. I wish you all the best and success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby.T
    Good luck with your goals.

    I have just broken 60k since June last year. Still aiming to find consistency.

    Mastering Pay Per Impression right now, scaling up on a daily basis, pulling nearly 200 profit a day, want to hit consistant $300+, then I will be happy.
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