This Is How To Stay Away From Email Submit Scrubs

by Ruck
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What's a Scrub? Basically in the email submit sector of the industry (actually all over the industry in whole) there is what is called a "scrub". Basically, some advertisers will apply a scrub to not accept a certain level or percentage of traffic. Now from my experience as a publisher and network owner, I've seen 3 types of scrub:

Global Scrubs - Applied to affect the entire offer across every channel of distribution of traffic the offer is receiving.

Network Scrub - Applied from the Advertiser explicitly to a certain network running the offer

Subid Scrub - A subid is a specific number every affiliate of a network is assigned. Some advertisers have the ability to scrub by exact affiliates.

Now the typical cliche to STAY OFF THE SCRUB would be to deliver HIGH QUALITY traffic, but unfortunately no matter what you do as a publisher in your promotion methods to try and deliver this type of traffic, you could in fact still face a scrub. That's because Email Submits are owned by various companies and these companies dont always run their offers and scrubs the same ways. I'm not going into who's who, and who does what around this industry but I will give you some tips here on how to stay on that email submit profitably for a period of longevity.

Tip #1 - Never Use These Two Words:

"Free" and "Official" - Sure it make you look like a legitimate authoritative figure in your ads and the word "free" will probably get you a ton of clicks but to be honest, most advertisers run a registration path on the backend of their offers that either require more information or users to complete other offers to receive the gift they are receiving. Stay away from both of those words on every level of your promotions. From landing pages to ad copy.

Tip #2 - Instead of a scrub, taking a lower rate

This will be between you and your affiliate manager. You AM is the negotiator for you. You find a hot offer with a considerable ROI but are facing a scrub from the advertiser because the quality is making them profitable, then negotiate a lower rate and see if that helps.

Tip #3 - Dont Use Deception - This is simple. Dont say anything that the offers itself doesnt promise. Dont offer something in return for filling out the offer. This will get you nailed quicker than anything. That lead is almost 99% of the time..worthless to the advertiser.

GETTING THE MOST OF YOUR TRAFFIC:

The three simple tips above will help you maintain a higher quality lead validation but sometimes even that isnt enough. Like I said, you have to be creative in this space. Getting the most out of YOUR traffic BEFORE the offer is going to be a deciding factor in the longevity of your campaign as well. Here are a couple of tips regarding that as well:

Capture the data yourself first - First things first. If you run search engine traffic, you are going to have to have a real site with content regarding the offer you want to run. However, you can run traffic to any page you want. Building a small email capture page is ideal. Capture the data yourself first so if you do face a scrub or lower rate, you still have your future mailings to rely on a bigger lifetime value of your leads.

PrePoppable Email Submits - This is pretty simple but a little hard to find. Ask your AM if you can get a pre-poppable version of the offer you are running. Almost always, you are going to run at a lower rate though. The value of a user typing in their email address into an offer is so much greater than a user giving you their info first, then having the form on the offer pre-populated with their email address and hitting submit. However, at a lower rate running a pre-pop you can do some amazing things. You capture the data yourself and you save time for the user not having to type their address twice.

Nothing ground breaking here. Nothing new. Just in a format easily readable so you can get more out of your email submit campaigns. In the end, like always, you are at the mercy of the advertiser. You need to know who your working with and how well they manage campaigns like these. For us, we've identified and cut the advertisers and networks who provide email submits with global scrubs. Those offers are highly brokered everywhere and work the same. You fire up one day at 30% conversion rates only to find in 24-48 hours you are at maybe 5-10%. Stay far away from those.

Second, if you run an offer on network A and face a scrub but split test the offer on Network B and stay steady on conversion rates for a week or longer, most likely network A is facing a network scrub. Not dogging anyone here but the negotiations level regarding these offers at that network is ****. Work with someone who will do the right thing and perform these negotiations versus saying "oh well, it's just an email submit".
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew NY
    Great post man. This answers a lot of questions for most people. Thanks for putting in the time to make this.

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  • Profile picture of the author Omid
    Great post. These points are valuable to any affiliate from a newbies to super affiliates!

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    Amazing tips, mate!

    Thanks for sharing!


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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Hey Ruck,

    Very valuable tips .

    Thanks for sharing .
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Great to see you on here Ruck!

    I think the the most important thing I have seen particularly from newbies as it relates to email submits is Tip #1. Particularly using the word FREE is very common on newbie landers and sales funnels and is very prone to scrubbing!

    Nice tips mate!
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  • Profile picture of the author Faizudin
    Nice Share . So 'free' and 'official' make more easy for email/zip submit scrubs. Lot of newbie use that words. After read this, they can improve ther ads quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    The idea about a lower commission makes a TON of sense. I wouldn't have thought about that, but Im sure it lowers scrub rate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire View Post

      The idea about a lower commission makes a TON of sense. I wouldn't have thought about that, but Im sure it lowers scrub rate.

      People look at payout rate WAY too much, particularly for these email submits and lower payout offers. Because there is so much scrubbing and other restrictions with these offers, payout is actually not one of the most important factors in determining which offer to choose.

      Think about this...would you rather have an email submit offer that pays $1 and you get credit for every single lead you generate or would you rather have the same exact offer on a different network that pays out $50 per lead but scrubs 99% of your leads?
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  • Profile picture of the author StoneWilson
    Nice share! Just learning something about email submit offer. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Good information. I've never even heard of a scub before. Will definitely have to be careful not to run into these types of problems in the near future.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ruck
      Never heard of a scrub? It applies to all email submits UNLESS the advertiser/network whom owns the offer path on the backend has monetized properly and has their metrics in line to live with whatever profitable margin they are making. Otherwise, they have to adjust their metrics and 99% of the time it's not a design or offer path change, it's the big ole scrubby.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Ruck brings it as normally.. good tips Ruck..

    Just to add my 0.02 - using the word "free" with e-mail submits can often get you kicked off them
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    Brilliant post man keep it up
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  • Profile picture of the author dark witness
    thanks for the info. I had heard about it but never fully understood it.

    thanks for the tips
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  • Profile picture of the author Aviator Joe
    Solid solid post

    newbies, listen to Ruck
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    I don't want no scrubs...

    this is why it is important to test the same offer with 2 different networks. I've noticed unannounced caps on submits in the past too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

      I don't want no scrubs...

      this is why it is important to test the same offer with 2 different networks. I've noticed unannounced caps on submits in the past too.
      Cross network split testing is most important on high traffic campaigns and on these simple submits. For high traffic campaigns, a slight change in payout or conversion rate can yield a large difference in bottom line. For simple submits, there is so much garbage going on behind the scenes that payout isn't even the most important variable at all.

      Originally Posted by tayuyaa View Post

      The worst part is that advertisers themselves put free on their landing page...So what is going to change if we put free on our ads?
      Yeah but when the affiliate does, that dilutes the traffic just a little more and its therefore probably tougher on the back end for the merchant. And as others pointed out, the main problem here is the liability which falls on all parties involved, so they normally just disallow the word FREE altogether. It makes sense
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Excellent post, Ruck.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author tayuyaa
    Originally Posted by Ruck View Post

    Tip #1 - Never Use These Two Words:

    "Free" and "Official" - Sure it make you look like a legitimate authoritative figure in your ads and the word "free" will probably get you a ton of clicks but to be honest, most advertisers run a registration path on the backend of their offers that either require more information or users to complete other offers to receive the gift they are receiving. Stay away from both of those words on every level of your promotions. From landing pages to ad copy.
    The worst part is that advertisers themselves put free on their landing page...So what is going to change if we put free on our ads?
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