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13 years ago

thats really good man.. It did motivated me.. I'm new to cpa marketing and still planning on how to start with my cpa campaign.. I just got accepted to clixgalore.. still no clue where to start.

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dark witness

13 years ago

thats great to hear.

So my question now is, what was the "right way" of setting things up? where you still using PPC or did you try a different traffic method? How did you set things up to get this result?

Great result.

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octavyo 13 years ago

Congratulations Noah,

I think it could be better if you give us your case study (not revealing the niche if you want).

I mean what exactly have you done to make those quick dollars. I think this will be very helpful for many warriors including myself.

I know and i`m currently doing big seo projects for my clients but i hate keyword research.......

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Mahmoud Selman

13 years ago

Congrats Noah and thank you for your motivation post, Yes its possible to make money with CPA if things done in the right way.

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jezbiz

13 years ago

so guys, what do you think is a good way to start with CPA marketing? I'm new to cpa marketing and stuck on where I should start.. thanks

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octavyo

13 years ago

One final question for you Noah

The $113 have been made using PPC or using SEO ?

I tried to avoid PPc since in my opinion it`s a money eater. Since i know SEo i`d like to focus on that but i think i just need to see somebody doing this succesfully before i will begin myself......

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by octavyo

One final question for you Noah

The $113 have been made using PPC or using SEO ?

I tried to avoid PPc since in my opinion it`s a money eater. Since i know SEo i`d like to focus on that but i think i just need to see somebody doing this succesfully before i will begin myself......

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Same here.. I guess I don't also have that much cash to spend on PPC.. I'm also looking for ways to drive free traffic to my offers

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sicnarf

13 years ago

Hope you don't mind some questions.

1. If you were using PPC, how much did you spend to earn the $113? Knowing your net profit would be much more interesting that knowing what you earned.

2. You mentioned doing things the "right way." What does that mean? What was the wrong way? Beginners can learn from both methods.

Thanks in advance.

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JasonWestwick 13 years ago

Congrats on your success Noah, great motivation to others on here to show them you can make money from CPA.

Now you have a consistent income look for ways to scale your campaign and take it to the next level.

As others have mentioned you stated you started doing things "the right way" could you elaborate on this. You don't necessarilly have to give away any traffic sources, landers, niche etc. but if it's beahvioural or structural changes you've made that could help others here then I'm sure many would love to hear it.

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Banned 13 years ago

Great post noah and congratulations!

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WeddingDances

13 years ago

congrats Noah, now just scale it! btw.. how much did you spend to make the $100?

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Davey T 13 years ago

Congratulations on your success! Please check your pm inbox. I hope you continue to grow and do well...
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Robert Michael

13 years ago

i hate threads where people post about "the right way" and then they never answer as to what that actually means.

this basically is a bragging thread more than a motivational thread from the looks of it so far

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Thank you everyone for the congrats.

For everyone asking how I did it, it was really simple. I used Pay Per Click - I just used the keyword research methods that I have learned here to find keywords that cost me very little. In fact, my average CPC was less than $0.08 and my average earnings per click was something like $0.29. So, no it's not all profit.

But it is profit - and now I have seed money to put back into it. In a few weeks, I see myself doing about $100 a day using this as a starting point.

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i hate threads where people post about "the right way" and then they never answer as to what that actually means.

this basically is a bragging thread more than a motivational thread from the looks of it so far

You know what? I hate forum members that expect to get something for free! I never said 'Read this thread and I'll teach you how I did it'. The title of the thread says 'Looking for motivation to continue? Here it is!'

I don't care that you don't have the discipline to learn how to do it the 'right way' without me telling you! I spent hours and hours learning the methods that I used. I learned everything from this forum.

If you want to learn methods to make money with CPA, go buy a WSO or use the search function to find thread with titles like 'This is how I did it' or 'Learn my method'. Not every thread needs to be a lesson for you about how to make money!

I've added my share of my own methods and skills to the forum. The point of this thread is to show people that even someone who is new to CPA can be successful at it. I don't have to impress anyone here. I know that before I joined PeerFly, I wanted to know that people could actually money with. That is the point of my thread.

If forum members (no one in particular

) want to complain about people not revealing their specific business strategies - go buy a WSO or find some thread meant to teach you.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

Thank you everyone for the congrats.

For everyone asking how I did it, it was really simple. I used Pay Per Click - I just used the keyword research methods that I have learned here to find keywords that cost me very little. In fact, my average CPC was less than $0.08 and my average earnings per click was something like $0.29. So, no it's not all profit.

But it is profit - and now I have seed money to put back into it. In a few weeks, I see myself doing about $100 a day using this as a starting point.

You know what? I hate forum members that expect to get something for free! I never said 'Read this thread and I'll teach you how I did it'. The title of the thread says 'Looking for motivation to continue? Here it is!'

I don't care that you don't have the discipline to learn how to do it the 'right way' without me telling you! I spent hours and hours learning the methods that I used. I learned everything from this forum.

If you want to learn methods to make money with CPA, go buy a WSO or use the search function to find thread with titles like 'This is how I did it' or 'Learn my method'. Not every thread needs to be a lesson for you about how to make money!

I've added my share of my own methods and skills to the forum. The point of this thread is to show people that even someone who is new to CPA can be successful at it. I don't have to impress anyone here. I know that before I joined PeerFly, I wanted to know that people could actually money with. That is the point of my thread.

If forum members (no one in particular

) want to complain about people not revealing their specific business strategies - go buy a WSO or find some thread meant to teach you.

-Noah Whitmore

lol. i didnt say i "dont have discipline" or anything near that.

just that your thread is a joke. you claim to offer motivation but you won't answer a couple of simple questions when people ask? but you sure did reply almost immediately when someone publicly says what everyone is privately thinking.

i think its hilarious. and i dont need to buy a WSO to make money. just wanted to point out that you create this thread to pretty much brag about your earnings, then when people ask you a couple of questions you are nowhere to be found. you act like you have some uber-secret technique or something.

hahaha

if you are as much of a "CPA God" as you seem to think you are, you would know how to implement those keywords to generate organic traffic and you would get the same results without a PPC campaign.

you dont always have to spend money to make money.

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

lol. i didnt say i "dont have discipline" or anything near that.

just that your thread is a joke. you claim to offer motivation but you won't answer a couple of simple questions when people ask? but you sure did reply almost immediately when someone publicly says what everyone is privately thinking.

i think its hilarious.

I'm not at all afraid to answer simple questions. I just don't have time to constantly monitor this thread and answer questions individually. I posted this thread very late last night before I went to sleep. Then, I haven't had time to check it until just recently, and I saw your post. Felt it needed a response.

My method:

1. Find a high converting offer
2. Find relevant keywords that have low CPC - I looked for CPC under 25 cents
3. Write an ad that grabs attention
4. Put in a low bid for your keywords - I put mine at about 15 cents for all keywords
5. Connect the ad to your offer
6. Watch the money come in

That's how I did it. I'm sorry that you feel the thread is a joke. Unfortunately I don't have time to deal with forum trolls Whos That Guru, so I've blocked you and we won't be able to have these fun little chats anymore. I wish you nothing but success.

-Noah Whitmore

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Robert Michael

13 years ago

i dont want to know the method you used.. i just posted that because im sure there are millions of other warriors who will stumble across this thread at some point, and THEY will be the ones asking. so why not post it now?

you act like if you reveal your "secret" (which isnt really a secret, everyone knows about PPC) then your money will stop coming in. its funny

but yea, same to you man. im not mad. im not even hating on you. im happy to see that you are making some $. just gets annoying to see everyone make a few dollars online and then start acting like they are "too good" to help beginners.

you can't say it doesn't happen. thats all i was saying. it seemed like this thread was more of a "look what i got" thread than a motivational/informative thread..

anyway, i too wish you the best of luck.

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SonicSync

13 years ago

Very nice Noah

I started with Peerfly this week also. I spent about $12 on PPV and after 1600 imp's I had only one conversion = $2. Not good. I realized that in the beginning I need to generate rev without spending any money. So after some brainstorming came up with an idea. In the last 24hrs, $6, no money spent. ratio 5 clicks = 3 conversions. NICE!

Time to scale.

ps. can I ask what/who did you use for your PPC..adwords etc?

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ankee1991

13 years ago

Which ppc platform did you use? Facebook? Adwords?

Congrats on the quick success

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webjedi 13 years ago

Hi, my name is WebJedi and I am a CPA junkie
I am up to 20 niche searches a day, I got it bad.

I wanted to thank Noah for his confessional, it really helps us who are in need :rolleyes:

I look on the SAME Peerfly screen on my account and there be NOTHING *sigh* I really am motivated to read your successes, albeit you are taking a slightly different route (PPC) than me (maybe that's why you are making some money) I have been running a month now and I think my clicks are just not very targeted, oh heck they are targeted but they may just be "tire kickers".

On a lot of offers I see like "the 10th of the month is lockout" I don't quite get that .. that they pay on the 10th and anything after that (even if a cookie is set for 45 days and the person comes back on the 25th) it will wait to payout on the 10th?

I have complete faith though, I KNOW it's going to work well for me, I currently have 9 sites up and running a mix of networks and 4 more sites being built.

I am still definitely under $100 invested total so I am just waiting for my traffic to pick up through my off page SEM.

Noah, I would like to know if you are using MS for this research .. maybe share your SEOT, PBR settings or something like that ...
I have bought a couple lemon domains because I get too excited if I see high SEOT, med PBR and low SEOUC..

Just want to get a better handle on the settings people are using to find such great niche keywords...

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bwmk2011

13 years ago

Ohh congrats!!
I would interested; can you guide me? I'm also new.

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vickybabe

13 years ago

Hey guys, i have also just joined Peerfly and am awaiting account approval. I just wanted to throw out some advice here because no one has mentioned it yet. Why not try media buying?? I see you guys are already spending money using ppc, so would it not make sense to buy banner space on another website that is already generating traffic? You can get a banner on a site for $50 - $100 if you are lucky.

Now for finding a website to advertise on we use a tool called Double Click Ad Planner By Google. It is free, but what you do here is set up a media plan and search for the exact website you are promoting. This will bring up a whole lot of websites that people use as well as the one you are promoting. Simply go through these websites and find about 20 that you are interested in. Make contact with the website owner and be sure to ask for a week free trial to test results before committing to a full month of paid advertising.

Use this technique with the right testing and tracking and you guys will be laughing all the way to the bank.

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chienb

13 years ago

as simple as it sounds, never thought about this. possible to provide more details?

Originally Posted by vickybabe

Hey guys, i have also just joined Peerfly and am awaiting account approval. I just wanted to throw out some advice here because no one has mentioned it yet. Why not try media buying?? I see you guys are already spending money using ppc, so would it not make sense to buy banner space on another website that is already generating traffic? You can get a banner on a site for $50 - $100 if you are lucky.

Now for finding a website to advertise on we use a tool called Double Click Ad Planner By Google. It is free, but what you do here is set up a media plan and search for the exact website you are promoting. This will bring up a whole lot of websites that people use as well as the one you are promoting. Simply go through these websites and find about 20 that you are interested in. Make contact with the website owner and be sure to ask for a week free trial to test results before committing to a full month of paid advertising.

Use this technique with the right testing and tracking and you guys will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Hope this post was helpful for you

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by vickybabe

Hey guys, i have also just joined Peerfly and am awaiting account approval. I just wanted to throw out some advice here because no one has mentioned it yet. Why not try media buying?? I see you guys are already spending money using ppc, so would it not make sense to buy banner space on another website that is already generating traffic? You can get a banner on a site for $50 - $100 if you are lucky.

Now for finding a website to advertise on we use a tool called Double Click Ad Planner By Google. It is free, but what you do here is set up a media plan and search for the exact website you are promoting. This will bring up a whole lot of websites that people use as well as the one you are promoting. Simply go through these websites and find about 20 that you are interested in. Make contact with the website owner and be sure to ask for a week free trial to test results before committing to a full month of paid advertising.

Use this technique with the right testing and tracking and you guys will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Hope this post was helpful for you

Google ad planner is no doubt a great tool for launching media buy campaigns, but we'd better first test offers through CPC to see whether they're converting or not. After that, we have more opportunity to find some killing offers via CPM/Banner placement.

Anyway, good start Noah, PeerFly is a great network to work with if you could consistently send over quality traffic.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by vickybabe

Hey guys, i have also just joined Peerfly and am awaiting account approval. I just wanted to throw out some advice here because no one has mentioned it yet. Why not try media buying?? I see you guys are already spending money using ppc, so would it not make sense to buy banner space on another website that is already generating traffic? You can get a banner on a site for $50 - $100 if you are lucky.

Now for finding a website to advertise on we use a tool called Double Click Ad Planner By Google. It is free, but what you do here is set up a media plan and search for the exact website you are promoting. This will bring up a whole lot of websites that people use as well as the one you are promoting. Simply go through these websites and find about 20 that you are interested in. Make contact with the website owner and be sure to ask for a week free trial to test results before committing to a full month of paid advertising.

Use this technique with the right testing and tracking and you guys will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Hope this post was helpful for you

Awesome! Thanks for the tip on where to find websites to advertise on. I was looking for other more ways aside from my own way of researching websites fitted for media buying.

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MartinBuckley

13 years ago

noah.whitmore,

I just got accepted to PeerFly yesterday and was excited about that, but now after reading your post I'm even more excited, so thanks for the encouragement and for sharing your results.

To your success,

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WFParadise

13 years ago

One simple question, it seems you used Google Adwords and just directlinked to some e-mail/zip submit offer, right ? or like you call it, "connect ad to the offer". Well, good luck not being banned soon. It's not allowed by Google.

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Originally Posted by WFParadise

One simple question, it seems you used Google Adwords and just directlinked to some e-mail/zip submit offer, right ? or like you call it, "connect ad to the offer". Well, good luck not being banned soon. It's not allowed by Google.

I think I'll give this thread an update soon with a little bit more info about my method, but I don't have time right now. But, I thought that I would address this.

I actually contacted Google about this. They told me that as long as the display URL on my ad matched the destination URL (after any redirections), you were fine. So, I don't see this being a problem. I even explained to them in an e-mail exactly what I was doing - I was connecting to a CA offer and I wanted to use a tracking URL, so I asked them what my display URL should be. I think that means I'm good.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

I think I'll give this thread an update soon with a little bit more info about my method, but I don't have time right now. But, I thought that I would address this.

I actually contacted Google about this. They told me that as long as the display URL on my ad matched the destination URL (after any redirections), you were fine. So, I don't see this being a problem. I even explained to them in an e-mail exactly what I was doing - I was connecting to a CA offer and I wanted to use a tracking URL, so I asked them what my display URL should be. I think that means I'm good.

-Noah

That's good to know. Thanks for share and great idea about "I just called Google for the answer" Shear genius - most people would sit there and wonder and ask on the forum for the answer and then get an answer that is wrong and lead them down the wrong road. LOL

So in the display url field you add the CPA offer URL and in the http field you can put in a cloaked tracking link. I use Prosper202. Free and awesome.

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WFParadise

13 years ago

You must be God if Google have found the time to speak with you, while you only started to make money for them

Problem here is actually so - it broke their rules not by display/destionation URL. They do not allow directlinking to e-mail submits at all. Problem with offer. But they for sure can not bring it to attention for sometime, after they do - account nuked.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by WFParadise

You must be God if Google have found the time to speak with you, while you only started to make money for them

Problem here is actually so - it broke their rules not by display/destionation URL. They do not allow directlinking to e-mail submits at all. Problem with offer. But they for sure can not bring it to attention for sometime, after they do - account nuked.

Hah, no - not God, just Noah. I'm not sure what to tell you. My ads did get turned down twice before it went through. The first time I think it was because I had an exit popup on my screen. The second time it got turned down, I just sent a message to them through the help section. I just clicked on the question mark on the little pop up box when my ad got turned down. Then, I found a contact form.

I explained that I was trying to link to an affiliate program and I wasn't sure why my ad kept getting turned down. I got a response in like a day.

Here are their guidelines when it comes to advertising affiliate links...
What should I know as an affiliate advertiser? - AdWords Help

-Noah

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WFParadise

13 years ago

You got very lucky. They probably thought you ARE direct advertiser. And just didn't looked at the ad, congrats

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

Hah, no - not God, just Noah. I'm not sure what to tell you. My ads did get turned down twice before it went through. The first time I think it was because I had an exit popup on my screen. The second time it got turned down, I just sent a message to them through the help section. I just clicked on the question mark on the little pop up box when my ad got turned down. Then, I found a contact form.

I explained that I was trying to link to an affiliate program and I wasn't sure why my ad kept getting turned down. I got a response in like a day.

Here are their guidelines when it comes to advertising affiliate links...
What should I know as an affiliate advertiser? - AdWords Help

-Noah

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Leonardo Silva 12 years ago

Hello.

So, any update for us Noah? Are you still running these kind of campaigns?

If yes, what kind of offers do you suggest to go with?

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Renavon

13 years ago

Congratulations mate, see how much you can grow it to

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docil 13 years ago

Wow, way to go... congratulations. I think I would try your strategy on my next project.
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andynathan

13 years ago

Peerfly allows direct linking to affiliate offers from CPC? Maybe I am getting this mixed up with another network, but it had to go through another website first?

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WFParadise

13 years ago

Peerfly allow, Google - no. Unless you are actual advertiser and your services/goods are compliant with them. They do allow directlinking if direct advertiser is absent or so, in that case they simply forgot about e-mail submit or so.

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Dennisknows

12 years ago

Originally Posted by WFParadise

Peerfly allow, Google - no. Unless you are actual advertiser and your services/goods are compliant with them. They do allow directlinking if direct advertiser is absent or so, in that case they simply forgot about e-mail submit or so.

What about if you put the offer in a Iframe? Technically it's not direct linking.. LOL.. Would they let that slide?

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13 years ago

Congratulations on your success!

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13 years ago

Congratulations on your success and I hope it continues.

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mtmjohn

13 years ago

Cool story, very inspiring. Keep up the great work Noah

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13 years ago

Good work, do you care to share the offer or strategy you used??

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13 years ago

Thanks for the motivation!!!
Hope it helps newbies....

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nbw

13 years ago

I'm amazed Google haven't banned your account as they don't allow any affiliate marketing.

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tayuyaa 13 years ago

Originally Posted by nbw

I'm amazed Google haven't banned your account as they don't allow any affiliate marketing.

Well that is not true at all even though it's not really easy to promote affiliate offers on adwords, you should read this and further:

What should I know as an affiliate advertiser? - AdWords Help
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cooler1

13 years ago

Congrats on your success. It took me months to earn my first $100 with Peerfly although I was using free traffic.

Were you promoting email/zips submits or were you promoting paid offers?

It sounds like you were direct linking to the offer and not using a landing page. Is that correct? If you did it the right way, would it effect the conversion rate a lot as Google have a lot of rules about the amount of content needed on site, etc.. for AdWords.

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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Ok then, if Google might be an issue, what about using Facebook Ads? Better ads anyway as you can laser target demographics. I dislike Google

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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Hey Noah

Congratulations! I and everyone else stands behind you. Thank you for making this post and unlike post #14 from somebody I won't waste my time naming here who doesn't have a clue, we do have a clue as to why you made this post and it is very much appreciated.

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13 years ago

***UPDATE 9/1/11***
Hey everyone, I've just added a video update to help everyone understand my method a bit more. I have received a TON of PM's and Skype requests from people asking me how I did this, so I thought a video would be a good way to explain it.

Check the bottom of the first post for the video!

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13 years ago

thats great to hear. Congrats.
noah.whitmore, Thanks for your sharing.

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JBroyer44

13 years ago

thanks for the vid Noah, great info. I just got accepted to peerfly today and your post has got me excited.

I have a $100 adwords credit coming so I want to set something up see if I can test an offer.

I still think I want to do PPC > landing page/opt in> follow up email >offer

as I would like to build a targeted list if I can.

I found a couple offers that may work on some of my higher traffic sites so i put up a couple banners and we will see what happens.!

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by JBroyer44

thanks for the vid Noah, great info. I just got accepted to peerfly today and your post has got me excited.

I have a $100 adwords credit coming so I want to set something up see if I can test an offer.

I still think I want to do PPC > landing page/opt in> follow up email >offer

as I would like to build a targeted list if I can.

I found a couple offers that may work on some of my higher traffic sites so i put up a couple banners and we will see what happens.!

I know that a lot people use a method like this, but I am quite sure that your response rate will be lower than you might expect. When people click on an ad, they probably kind of do it on a whim, and they expect to see the ad right away - a landing page might turn them off.

But, tons of people use PPC to build up a list and they're very successful at it, so I'm sure that it will work. However, I would personally suggest that you use a method like mine and just about double your money in a week or so, then start building a list. Just my two cents. Keep me posted on how it turns out.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

But, tons of people use PPC to build up a list and they're very successful at it, so I'm sure that it will work. However, I would personally suggest that you use a method like mine and just about double your money in a week or so, then start building a list. Just my two cents. Keep me posted on how it turns out.

-Noah

Ya Noah I think that may be the way to go then if I waste a little money losing people through the opt in process on my landing page I am losing reinvested earnings. NOT THAT I WANT TO LOSE ANY MONEY!

I'm going to go with your method here starting tonight or tomorrow an see what happens. Already found some keywords for an offer on peerfly that fits your criteria pretty nicely.

I'll let you know how it goes.

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bross 13 years ago

Not so familiar with peerfly and CPA so if someone can my answer my question, it would be great. Is it possible to earn with free traffic? e.g. with facebook fan pages (came first to my mind)

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  Interesting, always kept away from google because of their strict guidelines.
  
  " Make sure that your website complies with our landing page quality guidelines, which discourage redirect URLs, bridge pages, and mirror pages."
  
  Isn't direct linking an email submit a bridge page?
  
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bizsolutions 12 years ago

Hi Noah,

Thanks for the video. I am encouraged!

Are you still making money with CPA?

I've been trying to learn what I can before jumping in. Have you had any problem being accepted by CPA programs?

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13 years ago

Great thread Noah. Thanks for sharing your experiences with folks who are new to the CPA game like me. Appreciated!

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kecoaorgasme 12 years ago

This is really motivating video...good for newbie !!
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Adnan Firdous

13 years ago

I am amazed that you didn't launch it as a WSO!!!

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Adnan Firdous

I am amazed that you didn't launch it as a WSO!!!

Thanks a lot.

You're welcome. Ya' know, a lot of people are saying that this should have been a WSO. But, to be honest, this is not a tried and true method that has consistently produced results for me, so I would not be comfortable charging people for it.

There are WAAAY too many people that figure out some method that produces some quick results and they throw it up in a WSO - that's why most WSO's really suck. In fact, there are WSO's about which WSO's are the best. Yep, there are WSO's that help you wade through the piling crap of other WSO's.

So, while I certainly appreciate the sentiment in everyone saying that this information is valuable enough to be sold, I assure that you all that I am not the type of person that's going to charge other people for information that I have only recently discovered and has worked *once* for me. I'll let other people put out their barely helpful WSO's to take advantage of WF members while I give away that kind of information for free.

Sorry about that little rant, it's not geared towards anyone who has mentioned that this should have been sold as a WSO. I have just been frustrated recently at so many bad WSO offers. I think that WSO's should be higher quality than this information - most of them aren't. We're just gettin used to bad WSO's.

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ZerosToHero 13 years ago

Be careful using adwords. Once the Big G finds out your using adwords for CPA offers they'll slap you hard you won't know what hit you. At least this is the case for 98% of the people that try and do this.
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- mikekjr26 13 years ago
  
  Hey noah, I just wanted to say congrats, I have also just started using peerfly and have been very happy with their CPA program. I could not get google to approve anything not even landing pages. So thanks for the inspiration. I believe people looking for someone to say click here here and here and you will make money is not fair. As internet marketers we all have research and trial and error that we go through to find "the one" that works for us. Thanks for sharing your experience with me and good luck in the future. TAKE IT UP A NOTCH. lol
  
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

You're welcome. Ya' know, a lot of people are saying that this should have been a WSO. But, to be honest, this is not a tried and true method that has consistently produced results for me, so I would not be comfortable charging people for it.

There are WAAAY too many people that figure out some method that produces some quick results and they throw it up in a WSO - that's why most WSO's really suck. In fact, there are WSO's about which WSO's are the best. Yep, there are WSO's that help you wade through the piling crap of other WSO's.

So, while I certainly appreciate the sentiment in everyone saying that this information is valuable enough to be sold, I assure that you all that I am not the type of person that's going to charge other people for information that I have only recently discovered and has worked *once* for me. I'll let other people put out their barely helpful WSO's to take advantage of WF members while I give away that kind of information for free.

Sorry about that little rant, it's not geared towards anyone who has mentioned that this should have been sold as a WSO. I have just been frustrated recently at so many bad WSO offers. I think that WSO's should be higher quality than this information - most of them aren't. We're just gettin used to bad WSO's.

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david15923

13 years ago

Thank you for this video!! It is really motivating. Is there any ways of doing this without google adwords? How much traffic did you get? Thanks!! (:

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WeddingDances

13 years ago

good info Noah, I'm having problems getting some of my ads approved with Adwords, but I'm going to keep trying

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13 years ago

Congratulations! Now, as with other method's, take what your already doing, and scale. Turn that $100 into $10,000!

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13 years ago

Thanks for the boost... I have been trying many things but have not succeeded yet... But I know I will with time...

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13 years ago

Great thread for motivation. But I can't recommend this method for a long time with Adwords.

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JasonWestwick 13 years ago

Awesome post Noah,

Many thanks for your generosity, it's post like this that make the warrior forum worthwhile.

For many who are looking to test the waters with paid advertising, or even test the response rate of copy, this is a solid method.

Once again, many thanks.

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Shappie

13 years ago

Thanks for posting Noah! It has indeed motivated me very much.

Just a quick question. How did you get your keyword quality score high enough so that they would actually work? Assuming you kept the keywords at $0.15 that is. Thanks!

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13 years ago

Some people have had some questions in this thread and I haven't had the time to answer all of them, so I thought I would take a moment to do that.

Originally Posted by sicnarf

Hope you don't mind some questions.

1. If you were using PPC, how much did you spend to earn the $113? Knowing your net profit would be much more interesting that knowing what you earned.

2. You mentioned doing things the "right way." What does that mean? What was the wrong way? Beginners can learn from both methods.

1. I personally spent nothing with this particular method. But, it cost a little less than $50 to earn that $113 - pretty good return if you ask me.

2. Check out the video that I posted in the original post.

Originally Posted by SonicSync

Noah, I would like to know if you are using MS for this research .. maybe share your SEOT, PBR settings or something like that ...
I have bought a couple lemon domains because I get too excited if I see high SEOT, med PBR and low SEOUC..

Just want to get a better handle on the settings people are using to find such great niche keywords...

The only thing that I did was used Google's keyword suggestions tool to find keywords that looked like they would be related to my offer. I wasn't concerned with any of the specific settings that you're asking about. I just found keywords that I thought would make people interested in my offer.

I actually go through a little bit of my kw research process in the video update. Honestly, I'm not even sure what some of those acronyms are.

Originally Posted by andynathan

Peerfly allows direct linking to affiliate offers from CPC? Maybe I am getting this mixed up with another network, but it had to go through another website first?

Apparently they do. Because that's what I did. I contacted Google and explained my offer to them so they knew that I was using a CPA offer and my ad got approved.

Here's more info on AdWords for affiliates...
What should I know as an affiliate advertiser? - AdWords Help

Originally Posted by cooler1

Were you promoting email/zips submits or were you promoting paid offers?

It sounds like you were direct linking to the offer and not using a landing page. Is that correct? If you did it the right way, would it effect the conversion rate a lot as Google have a lot of rules about the amount of content needed on site, etc.. for AdWords.

I was using email/zip submit offers. Figured that would be the fastest money. I was redirecting straight to the offer page. I didn't use a landing page of my own. I don't think that AdWords has a specific amount of content that you need on a page that you link to. Tons of people have their ads link to squeeze pages that barely have any words on them at all.

Originally Posted by david15923

Thank you for this video!! It is really motivating. Is there any ways of doing this without google adwords? How much traffic did you get? Thanks!! (:

There are tons of ways to do thins without AdWords. People promote CPA offers with article marketing, good old SEO and a million other ways. Tons of information around the forum about this stuff.

As for traffic, since I was just using AdWords, I'll measure in clicks. I got about 500 clicks to earn that much.

Originally Posted by JamesAggie

Be careful using adwords. Once the Big G finds out your using adwords for CPA offers they'll slap you hard you won't know what hit you. At least this is the case for 98% of the people that try and do this.

This has been addressed several times in this thread. Therefore, I don't think that you know what you're talking about because Google quite obviously allows the promotion of CPA offers. Here is a page where they talk about AdWords for affiliates.

What should I know as an affiliate advertiser? - AdWords Help

I don't mean to go off on you, but there are too many people who act like they know what they're talking about when they quite obviously do not. I'm sure that you have not spoken with 98% of the people that have tried to use CPA in AdWords, and I know that your assertion that Google doesn't allow CPA offers is wrong! Everyone needs to stop saying that Google doesn't allow CPA in AdWords. I have communicated with Google about this and they do!

Here's a copy of the message that I sent the AdWords team after my ad was disapproved for the second time...

I'm actually having trouble with approval, but there were was no way to get to an e-mail form for that specific problem. I am having difficulty getting my ad approved to go to my link. It is a CPA offer that lands on a page with the URL '******.com' but I would like to use a tracking URL as the landing URL for the ad. I have read through the policies and as I understand, the display URL must show where the user will land after redirects. I'm confused why my ad has been disapproved several times. I would like to continue with AdWords, please help my with this issue. Thank you.

See everyone? I told the Google AdWords team that I was promoting a CPA offer (I even highlighted that part of my message for everyone). The reply that they sent back said a few things about display URL vs destination URL but nothing about the fact that I was using a CPA offer!

Big problem here on the WF is that people just spout out stuff that they have heard as if it were fact.

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13 years ago

So I am experimenting with your method Noah, and I have to say finding the keywords that you can get placement on for $.15 a click is tough. I think it is all about the offer of course.

I am trying to stick to the peerfly offers that are above %13 CR or so, but they are all gift card type offers that are tough to find the low hanging fruit keywords for where a .15 bid with get you the impressions and clicks.

I set up the campaign late last night so probably won't get any info until tomorrow. I am going to keep researching the offers as I think I jsut need to dig really deep to find the gem keywords to bid similar to what you found.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by JBroyer44

So I am experimenting with your method Noah, and I have to say finding the keywords that you can get placement on for $.15 a click is tough. I think it is all about the offer of course.

I am trying to stick to the peerfly offers that are above %13 CR or so, but they are all gift card type offers that are tough to find the low hanging fruit keywords for where a .15 bid with get you the impressions and clicks.

I set up the campaign late last night so probably won't get any info until tomorrow. I am going to keep researching the offers as I think I jsut need to dig really deep to find the gem keywords to bid similar to what you found.

-Jay

Just try to find kw that are somehow related to your offer. An offer for a giftcard to a restaurant could be interesting to someone searching for anything related to food.

As long as you set a low bid for the keywords, you will be able to decide if they work well without spending much money.

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gicts 13 years ago

May I ask if your profits have been holding steady?
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  May I ask if your profits have been holding steady?
  
  Yes you may...
  
  I actually put this particular campaign on hold because I didn't have the money to continue until I cashed out my PeerFly account. I actually e-mailed my affiliate manager and explained this, asking if I could cash out via PayPal. I just got a reply saying that they started the cash out process.
  
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by noah.whitmore

Just try to find kw that are somehow related to your offer. An offer for a giftcard to a restaurant could be interesting to someone searching for anything related to food.

As long as you set a low bid for the keywords, you will be able to decide if they work well without spending much money.

-Noah

ok so found a good offer converting around 12% (should i be shooting for higher?) checked the keywords and BAM! There were a ton of high value keywords from $.17-$.42 all relating to the offer and the add. So i loaded them up wrote a compelling clickable add that included the keywords for relevancy and DOH! disapproved.

So I think I am going to do 2 things:

Make a content rich landing page linking out to the offer and a quick engaging youtube video with a very thorough keyword rich description.

Not sure what you did to get your ads approved but I followed the guidelines and your video and nothing. This is not to say I am not doing something completely wrong here

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JBroyer44

13 years ago

Yup just got the email, they did not like the landing page for the offer....which has nothing to do with the uRLs matching as I used the top level url from the offer page.

Looks like you snuck by Noah or you are using an offer that has a much more engaging landing page. ie (actual text) not just a picture with and email submit.....maybe thats your secret lol!

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13 years ago

Congratulations Noah! Good luck on pushing your campaigns to the next level

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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Nice job Noah and thanks for sharing all this for FREE and for the excellent video that explains the truth on directs to offers from ADWORDS!

Its refreshing to listen to someone with the real FACTS and not hearsay on direct linking and the how to do it correctly. My campaigns are via a FB landing page AND email follow up with higher p/o offers but will give this direct stuff a whirl.

I have $200 of credits with G and some great kywd research tools to find off the radar kywds (hidden market)

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by JunkYour925

Nice job Noah and thanks for sharing all this for FREE and for the excellent video that explains the truth on directs to offers from ADWORDS!

Its refreshing to listen to someone with the real FACTS and not hearsay on direct linking and the how to do it correctly. My campaigns are via a FB landing page AND email follow up with higher p/o offers but will give this direct stuff a whirl.

Your using a facebook landing page? interesting? Sending paid and social traffic to an email submit, must have a good size list going?

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Originally Posted by JBroyer44

Your using a facebook landing page? interesting? Sending paid and social traffic to an email submit, must have a good size list going?

I'm getting paid to build my list. :p The "Funded Proposal"...
Then I make even more money on the backend.

The paid ad is usually to a free "thing" (niche ebook) - to get it they have to like and/or connect. Hey if I am paying for that visitor they ain't picking up my free gift and leaving w/o me knowing at least who they are and get a like.

They then get an opportunity to fill out a simple email/zip submit which gets more than my ad cost back.

The ads get likes too which goes viral/social like the page. It snowballs.

Sometimes the "free thing" (bait) can be a more complicated CPA offer (think "Free Trial") - higher cpa payout that does better on the back end, promoted via email autoresponder.
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- penpoint 13 years ago
  
  Noah, congrats on the successes. But, I'm a bit confused and I'd appreciate it if you could clear something up for me. I followed your link to read Google's "What You Need to Know..." post (thanks) and the first line in the article states "We (Google) currently don't accept ads for data entry affiliate programs".
  
  Now, in the video you said you looked specifically for an offer that was an email or zip submit. Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but wouldn't that be considered a "data entry affiliate" program? Or perhaps I'm not understanding the vernacular.
  
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13 years ago

Thanks Noah,

It is really very helpful post..It encouraging all the newbie to start making money with CPA..

Only one question: how to be accepted to the CPA network? sometime they not accepting some countries..

Thanks any way for passing this great informations..

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13 years ago

Guys, Whenever I press on the short or the long link I don't get the actual page of the offer, because I'm not from the united states.

Someone recommended to use proxy in order to see the actual link for the offer but I'm still unable to see it

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by ahmedfathy01110

Guys, Whenever I press on the short or the long link I don't get the actual page of the offer, because I'm not from the united states.

Someone recommended to use proxy in order to see the actual link for the offer but I'm still unable to see it

Can you help ?

Copy and paste the View Landing Page link into the proxy.
http://www.lukepeerfly.com/proxy-view-landing-pages

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13 years ago

Hello Noah,

I followed all what you said regarding the displayed link and the Destination URL

but I got disapproved as well

I doesn't know the reason

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13 years ago

I think this is seriously the best post on CPA I've seen in a long time. I absolutely love your video. thanks so much for this priceless information.
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JunkYour925 13 years ago

One ad got disapproved for using Trademark in it.

Did I just get a bad reviewer or is there a workaround like being more generic in the ad text? Thanks
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13 years ago

just figured it out

muahahahahahaha

yes this is a great thread - very "edumacational". It should be pinned to the top of this section.

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Originally Posted by JunkYour925

just figured it out

muahahahahahaha

yes this is a great thread - very "edumacational". It should be pinned to the top of this section.

what are you using for the display url if you are direct linking? I used the top level domain of the offer page and no go.
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  what are you using for the display url if you are direct linking? I used the top level domain of the offer page and no go.
  
  yes just the main domain name xxx.com as the visitor sees it in the URL bar of their browser once all the dust settles.
  
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Originally Posted by prawnballs

Was the approach to be more generic or something else?

Just had to generic it up a bit (no Trademark names in it) and it was immediately approved. ;-)

I was able to do so and still give viewers a good idea of what it is about
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Praveen Kumar

13 years ago

Thanks for this post , exactly it reveals a method of pissing PPC.

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leadgenninja

13 years ago

Peerfly is definitely one my favorite networks to work with.

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TonyR02

13 years ago

Congratulations Noah, I hope you can continue to do well in your endeavors!

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explo

13 years ago

Figured it out , ad is up and running

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ragul96

13 years ago

Thanks a lot for your video. It was a great motivation for me.

I did exactly what you did but i am not getting any impression or click after 5 hours or so.

Am I Doing something wrong? You input is greatly appreciated!

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projectrobot

13 years ago

Great Stuff Noah

.. My adwords ad is approved as well.. Just follow google rule and you will get approved. Will see how things work for me

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ahmedfathy01110

13 years ago

Can anyone explain to my how to get apporoved using direct linking ?

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AdBank

13 years ago

Nice work Noah! Keep pushing forward!

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David Kosiba

13 years ago

Congratulations

I don't even remember how I made my first money lol. I think it was with CPAlead.

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Bleedheat

13 years ago

"Display URL: Google will only show one ad per display URL for each search query. This means that if another affiliate ad for the same site outperforms you, that ad will show instead of yours. Learn more about our affiliate URL policy."

I just grab this from your link. Im not exactly sure if I understand this correctly but maybe this has something to do with your success?

If someone searches your keywords and your ad pops up. That either means your the only one with those keywords in that offer, or your paying more then the next person. They wont show the same URL? And your display ad show the final redirect. I might be completely off track here. lol i just started learning about this last week.

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picasso1011

13 years ago

Rinse and repeat 100000000 times.
way better than adsense..congrats

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jakubsas

13 years ago

HI noah.whitmore! I asked adwords support to allow me use CPA network link as the destination URL for tracking, and that's that they answered:
Hello Jevgenij,

Thank you for your email.I understand that you are concerned about the
status of your ad in the account with customer ID '418-5656'. This ad
is currently disapproved as the site 'www gadgetcenter us com' is in
violation of our policy on Information Harvesting, this site promotes a
business model which is not acceptable per our policies.

In response to multiple complaints received from users and publishers
about this category of ads, our policies no longer allow data collection
sites that collect users' personal information with minimal or no
information upfront.

To learn about the type of information covered by this policy, visit
What kind of personal and financial information is covered by AdWords policy? - AdWords Help.

The ad also violates our policy on Inaccurate Display URL as the display
URL of the ad is 'gadgetcenter us com' and the destination URL of the
ad 'www adworkmedia com/go php?camp=251&pub=9&id=12&sid=ipt'. This is
in violation of our policy on inaccurate display URLs.

As your adwords account is not currently not suspended you can still
advertise other sites through your account. Please make sure you do not
advertise the site 'www gadgetcenter us com' through your adwords account
as it may lead to the suspension of your adwords account.

If you want to advertise the site 'https //www adworkmedia com/' please
make sure your landing page
(www adworkmedia com/go php?camp=251&pub=9&id=12&sid=ipt) works in all
countries. As per our policy we require that the landing pages of the ads
promoted through your adwords account should be accessible globally.

Please write to me if you have any further questions and I will be glad to
help you.

Sincerely,

Paulose
The Google AdWords Team

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ICCGAMES

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jakubsas

HI noah.whitmore! I asked adwords support to allow me use CPA network link as the destination URL for tracking, and that's that they answered:
Hello Jevgenij,

Thank you for your email.I understand that you are concerned about the
status of your ad in the account with customer ID '418-5656'. This ad
is currently disapproved as the site 'www gadgetcenter us com' is in
violation of our policy on Information Harvesting, this site promotes a
business model which is not acceptable per our policies.

In response to multiple complaints received from users and publishers
about this category of ads, our policies no longer allow data collection
sites that collect users' personal information with minimal or no
information upfront.

To learn about the type of information covered by this policy, visit
What kind of personal and financial information is covered by AdWords policy? - AdWords Help.

The ad also violates our policy on Inaccurate Display URL as the display
URL of the ad is 'gadgetcenter us com' and the destination URL of the
ad 'www adworkmedia com/go php?camp=251&pub=9&id=12&sid=ipt'. This is
in violation of our policy on inaccurate display URLs.

As your adwords account is not currently not suspended you can still
advertise other sites through your account. Please make sure you do not
advertise the site 'www gadgetcenter us com' through your adwords account
as it may lead to the suspension of your adwords account.

If you want to advertise the site 'https //www adworkmedia com/' please
make sure your landing page
(www adworkmedia com/go php?camp=251&pub=9&id=12&sid=ipt) works in all
countries. As per our policy we require that the landing pages of the ads
promoted through your adwords account should be accessible globally.

Please write to me if you have any further questions and I will be glad to
help you.

Sincerely,

Paulose
The Google AdWords Team

you guys are motivating Google to ban more CPA marketers. Don't metion the word "CPA" and you'll be fine.

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OT2131

13 years ago

I finally got an ad approved after being "under Review" for 3 days. I chose a survey offer that did not ask for the email address right away..I think this was the key to having my ad approved.
Anyway I will post my results soon.

-Ben

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JSKING

12 years ago

Originally Posted by OT2131

I finally got an ad approved after being "under Review" for 3 days. I chose a survey offer that did not ask for the email address right away..I think this was the key to having my ad approved.
Anyway I will post my results soon.

-Ben

I will wait to see

GL !

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skrode

13 years ago

Is there any way to check if specific CPA landing page is banned?

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FaisalReza

13 years ago

Congratulation Noah for your achieve.. that was awesome. and you inspired me to be like you

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Ltespd

13 years ago

Noah...thanks a lot! Your steps really work. I watched the video twice. Followed the steps, and am making my 1st money on Peerfly. 1st day $14 dollars invested with Microsoft Adcenter PPC. My Peerfly toatal is $27. Not as as good as you...but its real profit. I need to keep testing and perfect this.
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JunkYour925

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ltespd

Noah...thanks a lot! Your steps really work. I watched the video twice. Followed the steps, and am making my 1st money on Peerfly. 1st day $14 dollars invested with Microsoft Adcenter PPC. My Peerfly toatal is $27. Not as as good as you...but its real profit. I need to keep testing and perfect this.
Thanks again.

just ok? are you kidding me that's excellent!. You just doubled your money! Where else are you going to get a 100% return on your $?

Tweak and scale. MS adcenter is easier to work with than Google. I hate Google with their lame "Quality Score". Kills the concept if "flipping" b/c they expect your ad to perfectly correlate to the keywords.

If that campaign keeps working then consider moving to PPV or CPM and watch the profits skyrocket.

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sofa8485

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ltespd

Noah...thanks a lot! Your steps really work. I watched the video twice. Followed the steps, and am making my 1st money on Peerfly. 1st day $14 dollars invested with Microsoft Adcenter PPC. My Peerfly toatal is $27. Not as as good as you...but its real profit. I need to keep testing and perfect this.
Thanks again.

I signed up with adcenter and their system is complicated! :confused: Since you seem to be using it, can you help me out a bit?

Tabby

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OT2131

13 years ago

I am trying to test this out but I keep getting disapproved because of "landing page and site policy guidelines"....I have my display url as "offer.websitename.c0m" and my destination as " offer.websitename.c0m/mypeerflyaffiliateid" ..... any help here on how to get approved?

thanks!
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SonicSync

13 years ago

Originally Posted by OT2131

I am trying to test this out but I keep getting disapproved because of "landing page and site policy guidelines"....I have my display url as "offer.websitename.c0m" and my destination as " offer.websitename.c0m/mypeerflyaffiliateid" ..... any help here on how to get approved?

thanks!
-Ben

Stop it right away.

Or you'll adwords account banned.

If it gives you guidelines message, never submit that offer again.
Try the next one.

If an offer doesnt match their guidelines it doesnt matter what the destination url or the offer url is. It is against their policy and continuing to mess with it will raise suspicions.

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OT2131 13 years ago

Thanks for that info....i tried a different type of offer and now it is "under review'...hopefully this one will work
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techotalk

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jezbiz

thats really good man.. It did motivated me.. I'm new to cpa marketing and still planning on how to start with my cpa campaign.. I just got accepted to clixgalore.. still no clue where to start.

Originally Posted by SonicSync

Stop it right away.

Or you'll adwords account banned.

If it gives you guidelines message, never submit that offer again.
Try the next one.

If an offer doesnt match their guidelines it doesnt matter what the destination url or the offer url is. It is against their policy and continuing to mess with it will raise suspicions.

SonicSync is right as i said already that some time it wont work and it may lead to you banned adsense account if you want to take risk then go ahead

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sofa8485

13 years ago

I totally vouche for this. I followed the exact same plan and earned over $50 in 3 days

Thank you!

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eldudebros 12 years ago

Originally Posted by sofa8485

I totally vouche for this. I followed the exact same plan and earned over $50 in 3 days Thank you!

I am so jealous right now.

Registered for peerfly and waiting to be approved. What PPC are you using?

Google adwords or microsoft?

I heard that 7search PPC is great too, did anyone use that?
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tidest

13 years ago

this involves investment irght?

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Jack Bronson

13 years ago

Great post and follow ups, thanks Noah

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sofa8485

13 years ago

Originally Posted by prawnballs

Noah, so for the Display URL in Adwords are you putting the domain name of the offer provider? And then for the Destination URL the final URL on that same domain that people land on after redirection (ie: not the URLs PeerFly gives you)?

Edit - still got disapproved due to Landing page and site policy guidelines

Having the same problem! It worked in the beginning...not anymore. It tells me " The name of the policy is: Bridge page" not sure how to fix it anyone?

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EdBryant

13 years ago

Nice story. Thanks for sharing.

Buying traffic to CPA offers is nice hustle. Good Work!

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SonicSync

13 years ago

Originally Posted by prawnballs

Noah, so for the Display URL in Adwords are you putting the domain name of the offer provider? And then for the Destination URL the final URL on that same domain that people land on after redirection (ie: not the URLs PeerFly gives you)?

Edit - still got disapproved due to Landing page and site policy guidelines

Display URL is the URL that is the final URL people land on. Destination URL is where you put the PeerFly code. Once your link is loaded, PeerFly URL fires and it redirects to the offer URL which is the URL/Domain that you entered in the Display URL field.

Example:

Your PeerFly code is www*peerfly*com/ offer
You put that in the Destination URL
When you load your PeerFly code it redirects to www*offer*com/whateveroffer

You place www*offer*com in the Display URL

Also, check the landing URL, the final URL, if it is www*offer*com/freecomputer/

You need to enter the whole thing, not just the domain www*offer*com. Basically where ever the forward slash ends, you need to enter everything before that.

Most of the email/zip submits are not welcomed by adwords. So they might work for a few days and will get capped. It's better to promote per SALE offers on adwords.

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Everyone seems to still be interested enough in this, so I've added an update to the original post.

I know that someone people are talking about getting banned and having ad disapproved - but we still need to adhere to AdWords guidelines. There are a lot of CPA offers that just have crappy landing pages - don't use those!

SonicSync, thank you for the display vs destination URL explanation. Also, keep in mind that if the offer tries to redirect people to a different page as they leave, Google might consider that final URL as the destination URL. So, it's better to stay away from offers that have that annoying little 'WAIT - Click 'Stay On This Page' and I have a special offer' type offers. They get disapproved fast.

-Noah

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dimager2003

13 years ago

One thing - do you bid on phrase match or broad match on google?

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Originally Posted by dimager2003

One thing - do you bid on phrase match or broad match on google?

I just use whatever AdWords defaults to. Broad matches have worked so far.

-Noah
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razzmo

13 years ago

Hi!

First of all congrats on your success with google adwords, I am checking this thread everyday for updates.

I am at peerfly too , and checked basically nearly all of the zip/email submit offers, but I could not find a good one yet lol

All offers are only one big image + a huge submit or click here button + an input field for the mail/zip.

Probably I should have contacted my affiliate manager.

So thank you for this awsome post with the tips!

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noah.whitmore

13 years ago

Originally Posted by razzmo

Hi!

First of all congrats on your success with google adwords, I am checking this thread everyday for updates.

I am at peerfly too , and checked basically nearly all of the zip/email submit offers, but I could not find a good one yet lol

All offers are only one big image + a huge submit or click here button + an input field for the mail/zip.

Probably I should have contacted my affiliate manager.

So thank you for this awsome post with the tips!

Totally get in touch with Luke at Peerfly if you have questions. Ya know, you might just want to try submitting an ad that's connected to an offer page that has no popups. That's one of the biggest guidleines that Google uses (from my experience). Text and such is good to have on a landing page, but 0 popups is even better.

-Noah

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sofa8485 13 years ago

Hi Noah,

When are you usually online on Skype?
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dimager2003

13 years ago

That's why you get that traffic, you use broad matches. Alright - figured that out thanks to you

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Noirmaybe

13 years ago

Hey I don't know if you got a chance to read my post or not but this method has been working for me somewhat so far. I just need to get past breaking even. Any Ideas?

Also about how many keywords total are you using for your ads? I'm using around 1.5k -2k but I was told that may be to many. What do you think?

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eniggma

12 years ago

Hey man just saw your thread. Very encouraging, I plan on making my first media buy and fully researched PPC campaign this friday. I plan on spending all this week til then educating myself on all the ins and outs and I feel very confident that I will at least lower my chances of failure. This thread helped alot on that. Thanks!

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Skalje

12 years ago

Thanks, man. Lol, I just applied to Peerfly and got this message:

Currently, 1,597 applications are ahead of you in the queue. We generally go through 75-100 applications a day. You will receive an e-mail regarding our decision after we review your application. Please do not contact us and try to expedite the review process because that will only slow things down.

So I guess I'll be waiting a few weeks...

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12 years ago

Lol! the advice was very useful guys thanks~!

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moneymakerhyip

12 years ago

Yes, u need to wait but they will approve u soon..

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Banned 12 years ago

dosent google ban that kind of things?

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yako

12 years ago

Hey Noah,

First of all thanks for the info you are sharing!

I have a question regarding the kind of CPA offers you are promoting.

Yesterday I tried to apply this method using Microsoft AdCenter and a typical CPA offer from Peerfly but was contacted by the support team linking to a site with the TOS which state:

"Here are some things that will potentially get you on our radar of low-quality sites:

- Sites with limited content whose main purpose is to show ads to visitors.
- Sites that collect personally identifiable information (PII) for the purpose of selling or giving it away.
- Sites that feature business models designed to take advantage of site visitors, such as get-rich-quick schemes, pyramid schemes, and miracle cures or products.
- Affiliate marketing sites that do not identify themselves as affiliates of retailers by using distinct display URLs, or whose landing pages merely redirect to the retailers’ sites.
- Sites with poor consumer interaction or whose visitors report consistently irrelevant or misleading ads.
"

I can't think of any CPA offer which does not violate one or more of these restrictions. I was wondering if you could share an example of an offer you would use or had used it the past. Just an example, not the ones you are using, so you can help me understand a little bit better the business model you are using and the offers that can be promoted.

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PPC-Coach

12 years ago

Hate to burst the bubble here, but direct linking to email submits from Adwords will get you banned. If you haven't been banned yet, don't worry, it's coming. It doesn't mean they hate affiliates, they just don't like affiliates that provide no extra value.

You can direct link to SOME affiliate offers, but it's got to be something Google is ok with. Usually offers ON their own affiliate network tend to get approved for direct linking a lot more then any email submit ever would.

If you don't believe me, go ahead and direct link to any email submit offer using adwords. Find out for yourself.

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RedShifted

12 years ago

Good going man good for you I'd scale that up like everyone else said.

I absolutely plan on diving into PPC for CPA but right now it seems to complicated for the level I'm at. I have no idea how to even start with keyword research. For now I just wanna get a ton of youtube vids up and fliers then maybe if I get some capital I'll throw it into this idea (but only if I feel like I know what I'm doing I hate any form of gambling and this honestly sounds risky especially for newbs).

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12 years ago

but some time this also not work atleast in my guess we are not able to make it a single cent

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Ltespd

12 years ago

This method doesn't work anymore. Both Adwords and Adcenter will shut you down. It's just a matter of time. I know from 1st hand experience.

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12 years ago

Thanks Noah ~ Checking the video out ~

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12 years ago

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pintu777

12 years ago

Awesome. I never tried CPA previously and don't know anything about the Adword policy. Thanks for your tip for having campaign through Adwords and selecting CPA offers.

Pragnesh

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Charles Jones

12 years ago

Part of the reason that many of these "CPA" offers get rejected by Google is that they are CRAP. Too many email submits for a "free this or that"....but it ISN'T FREE....you have to complete 2 platinum offers and 3 gold ones....all that BS.

LOOK at the ad you are promoting and pick a good one...something you REALLY would think is white hat. That is how to get approved at Google.

I mean would YOU do one of those stupid ads and have to do all those offers to get it???? Bet that answer is NO. There are a number of TRUE freebie email submit ads out there...you just have to look for them. I know...I run a FREEBIE site with a bunch on there. Guess what....I can make the same $$$ with a good TRUE freebie as I could with that "Get a free sample of snuggle" BS ad with all the hoops.

You have to stop and look at the ad you are wanting to promote. I like Peerfly, but they had the lowest number of true free ads out of the networks I have memberships with. Just sayin', in case they are listening.....GET MORE GOOD OFFERS AND SEPARATE all the BS ones into a different category.

Hope you all do well with this method....remember, don't just run PPC on Google...Bing and all the others are out there too....and they are not the heavy handed BIG G.

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12 years ago

lMy question here is the op said he got 100 dollars in 3 days, and yes the peerfly screens confirm that

but I think this is very misleading
apparently by the followup posts, he was doing campaign with Google adwords to generate the traffic

how much did those clicks cost? coming from Google? They surely were not free were they? So why do you claim to be making 30 bucks per day, THATS GROSS REVENUE, NOT NET PROFIT.

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espresso

12 years ago

erm
I always though google didnt allow affiliate marketing
I even asked a member of google this (in person) and he said NO

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12 years ago

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12 years ago

Congratulations, continue to work hard!

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12 years ago

I guess Noah disappeared

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JSKING

12 years ago

Nice, Nice

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ahmedfathy01110

12 years ago

That thread was my true motivation to enter CPA world. I believe this method is no loger working

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RussCashU

12 years ago

I love it! Its always great to see someone succeed and help other members out. A class for sure! Great post

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Mr Lim

12 years ago

I wonder why everyone says you will get banned for submit CPA offer.

I've landed an email submit page via Google Search. Seem nothing wrong there...
And there's an affilate address.

And this is what I've searched on Google.
"Win an iPad"

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crazybeing

12 years ago

Congrats on your success ... hopefully i can make some money through cpa offers "now that i've started working on them"

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lukedidit

12 years ago

So OP landed adsense onto a peerfly URL?

I though direct affliate linking was not allowed and instead you needed your own landing page???

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vj3660

12 years ago

I'm not recommending it.Google doesn't like it at all.Why don't you guys make your own product and promote .

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bushidosurfer

12 years ago

What Noah did is surely something most thought would get your banned. Well, at least I did until I saw his results which is cool.

I see a fair number of folks "replicating" his process. Just curious, anyone else making similar money from this method so far?

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david15923

12 years ago

Originally Posted by bushidosurfer

What Noah did is surely something most thought would get your banned. Well, at least I did until I saw his results which is cool.

I see a fair number of folks "replicating" his process. Just curious, anyone else making similar money from this method so far?

Adwords isn't accepting Direct Linking now...

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Phantasm

12 years ago

This was a great thread. Is anyone else having success with direct linking still?

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CBGCash

12 years ago

This is great Noah, I'm on my quest to $100 a day as well.

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icegin

12 years ago

Thanks for sharing your success here. I'm new to CPA marketing myself and am still working on making that first dollar with CPA

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CBGCash

12 years ago

I've made a resolution to start on my CPA career thanks to inspirational posts like this one. I was following other monetizing methods like article marketing that that did not work out too well for me.

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lukedidit

12 years ago

For anyone who is interested I recently ran a try out campaign (my first using PPC / CPA) by having 7 search for the traffic and peerfly for the offer.

I made a profit, a very small one, but a profit all the same. Not bad for a first try, just need to scale it now

http://www.prointernetincome.com/upd...earch-results/

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mobilemob 12 years ago

Yeah PeerFly is pretty cool.
Good my first few bucks from them as well. Not profitable yet, but great motivator.
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JamesMcCaferty

12 years ago

There is no way you can direct link on Adwords.

Edit: I wonder how effective his method would be today, and I would love to see his current balance.

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BigGameHunter

12 years ago

Congrats Noah. I think Noah learned something even greater that his CPA efforts from posting this thread. As much as you try to help others, with all the best intentions most just want to whine and complain.

Sounds like a bunch of losers around the poker table calling the winner a donkey. And when he tried to share with everyone what he did, you tell him it can't be done for one reason or another. Losers love to wallow in pity together.

New Lesson: "You Can't Teach Anyone Who Knows Everything Anything".

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Dennisknows

12 years ago

Good stuff my man.. Sorry to hear about how people are coming at you. It can be stressful trying to make a few bucks then see a newbie come along and make a hundred bucks. Lol..

I'm kinda new myself. Just started focusing on Peerfly because that's where I'm making the most money right now. Plus they're great. On network I know where the affiliate managers are so active in affiliate marketing.

Wish you the best man..

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Rakgan

12 years ago

Its really fast earnings from PeerFly, I Think your site has high traffic, If you have that, no problem for the earnings, Adsense is the King in Affiliate that gives more CPC than other competitors. PeerFly I never checked going to check soon. Thanks of the great Thread.

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