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My First Real Sucess, Now I just need a Little Guidence

by Noirmaybe
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Hello !

I'm a 19 year old (I'll be 20 next month =) and I have been working on and off trying the IM thing for about a year with zero success. Absolutely none. I was about to give up. Then I came across a thread here by Noah Whitmore explaining how he earned about 100$ in just 3 days.

So I followed his method, with a 100$ adwords voucher and after some tinkering, I managed to finally make some money! After I set it up to the best of my ability, I managed to make about 2.80 within hours of setting it up Saturday Night. Since then I have made 3 more ads and as of now I'm at $5.50! All of this is exciting for me because this is the most I've ever made doing IM and the first time I've really made anything. Another thing that makes this awesome is that this is 100% all profit since I'm only using the 100$ adwords voucher.

The problem is, now that I'm looking at the billing it's totaling to about $4.10 spent so far on clicks. So if I where using my own money this means I would be breaking even.


I'm runing 3 diffrent ads. 3 diffrent niches. All have the same daily budget of $15 and a max cpc of $0.25. I have about 1000-2000 targeted keywords for each offer I'm promoting and each has a pay out of about $1.40

Any ideas on how I can push pass this and really start earning big time like some of you guys ? Haha
#guidence #help and advice #real #sucess
  • Profile picture of the author mills
    Congrats on having the guts to try things out. Many people a lot older than you buy lots of guides but never actually DO anything.

    CPC advertising is just one of many areas of IM - and nobody is good at all of them, so if you find an area you particularly like and it works for you then stick with it :-)

    You have to watch your numbers closely with CPC, and keep testing and improving your conversion rates. Then when you're confident of your numbers, scale it up.

    If you're spending $4.10, and making $5.50, that's a profit!

    To put it another way. If somebody was selling $5 bills and you could buy as many as you wanted for $4... how many would you buy... :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
      Originally Posted by mills View Post

      Congrats on having the guts to try things out. Many people a lot older than you buy lots of guides but never actually DO anything.

      CPC advertising is just one of many areas of IM - and nobody is good at all of them, so if you find an area you particularly like and it works for you then stick with it :-)

      You have to watch your numbers closely with CPC, and keep testing and improving your conversion rates. Then when you're confident of your numbers, scale it up.

      If you're spending $4.10, and making $5.50, that's a profit!

      To put it another way. If somebody was selling $5 bills and you could buy as many as you wanted for $4... how many would you buy... :-)

      So then I'm doing everything right and shouldn't change anything?
      I just need to promote more offers and experiment in the meantime ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Aviator Joe
    I'd suggest you focus on one offer from one niche, split test the hell out of it and make it profitable.
    Now you're running 3 ads and 3 different offers?

    Split test headlines/adcopies on one offer first.

    Are you tracking the performance of your ads somehow?
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    • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
      Originally Posted by Aviator Joe View Post

      I'd suggest you focus on one offer from one niche, split test the hell out of it and make it profitable.
      Now you're running 3 ads and 3 different offers?

      Split test headlines/adcopies on one offer first.

      Are you tracking the performance of your ads somehow?
      With the first offer, I started off with 2 headlines/adcopies, After I got received 2 leads with it (Within 2hours of me setting it up). 13 hours later I didn't receive anymore leads, I set up about 10 variations of it, added more keywords and removed keywords that were a bit random or seemed like they just didn't belong.

      Then I added another that is like in the same niche just a sub cat of it and received the 1 lead from that one. I did the same, added more headlines/adcopies and worked on the keywords for a bit.

      Recycled the same thing for the latest one I added which was a completely different niche. Same result. Just one lead.

      I've been tracking all the keywords and everything with Adwords. And when I seen which keywords triggered clicks, I just made more headlines/adcopies that reflected that keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author Okenyon
    Yes use tracking so you know what keywords etc are converting the best for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremyShawaf
    Yeah, was gonna say.....that’s a hell of a lot of keywords, maybe use less keyword so you can target your niche and or offer’s customers much more, like if you were to do a Free so and so......I would definitely use the word free in most of the keywords, because it let’s you get more targeted traffic, and youll spend less on clicks and hopefully make a good CR so that you can bring home the gold. This can also depend on how popular of a product your promoting, if your already getting low clicks, I would stick to more broad keywords, but I think anything over a 100 is a little too much.....but some people are intense testers I guess.....Goodluck!!!


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    • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
      Yeah, was gonna say.....that's a hell of a lot of keywords, maybe use less keyword so you can target your niche and or offer's customers much more, like if you were to do a Free so and so......I would definitely use the word free in most of the keywords, because it let's you get more targeted traffic, and youll spend less on clicks and hopefully make a good CR so that you can bring home the gold. This can also depend on how popular of a product your promoting, if your already getting low clicks, I would stick to more broad keywords, but I think anything over a 100 is a little too much.....but some people are intense testers I guess.....Goodluck!!!

      Well the thing is, I noticed that the main most important keywords either didn't have a ton of search volume or had High cpc. I figured I would target alot of keywords for more impressions. I will try out a new niche and try testing with only 100-200 keywords and see how that pans out. I guess that does make a lot of sense the keywords are being spread out thin. I'm getting like like 17k impressions for one of my ads but it only has 21 clicks.

      Wouldn't Lowering keyword count lower overall impressions and clicks?
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      • Profile picture of the author sofa8485
        Mind sharing how are you getting around with the display and destination url?
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        • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
          Originally Posted by sofa8485 View Post

          Mind sharing how are you getting around with the display and destination url?
          It's really not that complicated or a "Work Around".

          You have to set the display url to the top domain of your offer and the Destination url to the link your peerfly gives you.

          Noah updated his original post and explains it really well. I have noticed some ads just won't get accepted. If it doesn't work after 2 variations of it I move on to try another offer instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew NY
    Work on one niche and split test it. Testing, testing, testing is the answer for PPC. If you're breaking even, that's not a profitable campaign. However, it can potentially be a profitable campaign if you optimize it correctly. Try many different ad copies as well as landing pages. From there, when you find your copies/LP's that are getting the highest CTR's, delve further into optimizing your targets.

    The underlying goal in PPC in my eyes is getting your CPC as low as possible. I've had a campaign where the payout was $0.70, but it was getting about a 40% ROI simply because my CPC was down around 5 cents. The key is more of finding your ROI goal, instead of your goal in profit. You can always scale later on .

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    • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
      Originally Posted by Matthew NY View Post

      Work on one niche and split test it. Testing, testing, testing is the answer for PPC. If you're breaking even, that's not a profitable campaign. However, it can potentially be a profitable campaign if you optimize it correctly. Try many different ad copies as well as landing pages. From there, when you find your copies/LP's that are getting the highest CTR's, delve further into optimizing your targets.

      The underlying goal in PPC in my eyes is getting your CPC as low as possible. I've had a campaign where the payout was $0.70, but it was getting about a 40% ROI simply because my CPC was down around 5 cents. The key is more of finding your ROI goal, instead of your goal in profit. You can always scale later on .

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      Could you explain what you mean by split testing? This is my first time trying the PPC route and I'm still learning
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  • Profile picture of the author FidelityNat
    Hey, thanks for sharing your experience with us!
    After you become an experienced marketer with your contextual ads, try some banner ads as well! If you plan and schedule your campaign properly, you can expect getting a much higher ROI.
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Noirmaybe
    Originally Posted by narutopedia View Post

    make a simple guide in ebook, maybe there're many need that and thanks for your creativity
    Haha Thanks but Really I'm not that great. The whole method is really Noah Whitmore's. Some people had trouble with it even after he posted the video, but he actually explains everything really well and gives you everything you need to know.
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