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Lead impact....what the hell!?

by SirTestAlot
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What is up with lead impact. I read all these great reviews about how it's the best ppv company to start out with and they have good traffic etc.

I'm on my 3rd test campaign right now with them and:
1. It's like pulling teeth trying to include enough high traffic url's to get traffic
2. The traffic really doesn't seem to convert

The ones I thought would work are related to stock trading and making money from home.
Are these just bad niches to be in for ppv traffic or this network?
What type of offers work on this type of traffic?

If you're having success with lead impact what conversion rates are you seeing?

They also seem to be charging me for more views than my prosper202 is showing, has that been your experience?
#hell #impactwhat #lead #lead impact #ppv #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author silverace
    Leadimpact converts just great try to stick with niches on the lower payout end though. ppv is interruption marketing, people will be less likely to buy something or fill out a lot of information(which usually comes paired with high payout offers). surveys, dating, gaming etc. are better for ppv IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author spope91
      Originally Posted by silverace View Post

      Leadimpact converts just great try to stick with niches on the lower payout end though. ppv is interruption marketing, people will be less likely to buy something or fill out a lot of information(which usually comes paired with high payout offers). surveys, dating, gaming etc. are better for ppv IMO.
      This x10. Focus on the low payout offers entirely, i.e. single zipcode submits, or emails.

      I know the idea of focusing on smaller comms seems off-putting, but when your conversions go through the roof it'll all make sense
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by SirTestAlot View Post

    What is up with lead impact. I read all these great reviews about how it's the best ppv company to start out with and they have good traffic etc.

    I'm on my 3rd test campaign right now with them and:
    1. It's like pulling teeth trying to include enough high traffic url's to get traffic
    2. The traffic really doesn't seem to convert

    The ones I thought would work are related to stock trading and making money from home.
    Are these just bad niches to be in for ppv traffic or this network?
    What type of offers work on this type of traffic?

    If you're having success with lead impact what conversion rates are you seeing?

    They also seem to be charging me for more views than my prosper202 is showing, has that been your experience?
    What niches have you tried? Lately I've found I'm getting almost as much traffic from LI and trafficvance..
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  • Profile picture of the author anthonyrude
    What's up with the site ever time i try to go to leadimpact.com google says it's not available.

    This is the url i got from google number 1 position am i putting in the wrong url?

    any one know what's going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by anthonyrude View Post

      What's up with the site ever time i try to go to leadimpact.com google says it's not available.

      This is the url i got from google number 1 position am i putting in the wrong url?

      any one know what's going on?
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      I cannot log into their main page
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    i heard good stuff about Leadimpact. Never got in to ppv but i will be stepping in to ppv very soon and lead impact will be my first choice.
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    I got a Peerfly iPad offer running profitably when they suddenly shut down all of my URLs and KWs for no reason.

    Good job LeadImpact.

    I was in the middle of scaling things by adding tons of related URLs and KWs too.

    This little campaign could have gone up to $20-50 a day in revenue just by direct linking.
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    • Profile picture of the author SirTestAlot
      Originally Posted by calfred View Post

      I got a Peerfly iPad offer running profitably when they suddenly shut down all of my URLs and KWs for no reason.

      Good job LeadImpact.

      I was in the middle of scaling things by adding tons of related URLs and KWs too.

      This little campaign could have gone up to $20-50 a day in revenue just by direct linking.
      So did you ask them why they did it? What did they say?
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    • Profile picture of the author thesilvershield
      I'm a new user of leadimpact and it works well for testing my campaigns although I have made a few conversions so far. As I am new, I question my methods for my failures, not the network.

      Originally Posted by calfred View Post

      I got a Peerfly iPad offer running profitably when they suddenly shut down all of my URLs and KWs for no reason.

      Good job LeadImpact.

      I was in the middle of scaling things by adding tons of related URLs and KWs too.

      This little campaign could have gone up to $20-50 a day in revenue just by direct linking.
      That's interesting. I've never read such a thing about them before. Did you ask them the reason? Anyone else experiencing that kind of thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author DennisthaMennis
    What kind of traffic is Lead Impact??? I was advised it is web traffic, but I show a lot of WAP in my reports??? Anyone have any particulars on Lead Impact's traffic sources??

    Thanks!!
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    • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
      Well, you've probably didn't work with MT if you have these complains about LeadImpact.

      For higher traffic you need to go for low Alexa rank URL's - and that's not always going to to promise you super high traffic.
      Simple example - When I bidded on Shopathome.come I wa getting aroun 2000 per day from that target and it's 657 on alexa rank, and 134 Alexa rank in US.
      For another campaign I've bidded on wizard101.com which is probably not even in that league, although it's protected but from there I was able to get around 600 views in an hour at the pick and it ate all my budget ina few hours...

      If you are looking for bigger traffic bid on domains of other offers that affiliate push!
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  • Profile picture of the author DennisthaMennis
    Does anyone know if any particular countries work best with Lead Impact traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author michael rozy
    li has lot of us traffic .
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  • Profile picture of the author jordanberg2311
    if you cant get traffic and conversions with LI,
    you are doing it wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author jordanberg2311
    if you cant get traffic and conversions with LI,
    you are doing it wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author DennisthaMennis
      Originally Posted by jordanberg2311 View Post

      if you cant get traffic and conversions with LI,
      you are doing it wrong.

      Yeah, I'm sure I'm making a few mistakes. Just launched my first campaign through LI. Also first campaign ever.

      Good to know I didn't throw my money away on a garbage traffic source.

      Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author mario1
      Originally Posted by jordanberg2311 View Post

      if you cant get traffic and conversions with LI,
      you are doing it wrong.
      Absolutely!
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    My question is what conversion rate are you getting on your offers? Lots of talk of HIGH CONVERSION RATES, but what is high? 1% 5% 20% 50% 100% What?
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  • Profile picture of the author Roderick Angela
    Hey guys,

    I'm looking to use LI or Directcpv to target some Dutch (internet marketing sites) presenting an special offer to those visitors.

    Will these networks be usefull to me, or just waste of money?
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    • Profile picture of the author harrisunderwork
      Originally Posted by Roderick Angela View Post

      Hey guys,

      I'm looking to use LI or Directcpv to target some Dutch (internet marketing sites) presenting an special offer to those visitors.

      Will these networks be usefull to me, or just waste of money?
      DCPV is crap. Dont use it. Donno about LI.
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  • Profile picture of the author suavewarrior
    Hi, lead impact is actually the secound best after traffic vance. I Hope you are targeting by urls and not keywords, also try linking to a landing, optin/squeeze page. Countries depend on the offer. DirectCpv is mostly interstitial ads which mean it shows up between a website linking to another website.
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    • Profile picture of the author StefanAffilit
      LI is AWESOME! Works great for me.
      Just create a lander and use a great offer (EMAIL/ZIPS) works great for me!
      Nice EPC (~0.65)
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  • Profile picture of the author Eidolon
    I am about to take a dip into ppv and will use LI. I see some strong feelings expressed here and understand there are a number of variables to an effective campaign - but I think the potential upside is worth the learning curve cost. The $200 initial deposit seems reasonable compared with others like TV. Maybe I'll feel like Jordanberg2311 after I've started.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshadams
    I am new to PPV. This traffic source really made me inspired to give it a go. So far, it's a struggle on the testing side because I'm not entirely sure what URLs to target. Someone mentioned using Alexa rank to target, so I'm going to try that. I'll report back with more info as I go.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshadams
    Well I've spent $50 and no signups to my list. Been a waste of money and time to say the least.
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    • Profile picture of the author david15923
      Originally Posted by joshadams View Post

      Well I've spent $50 and no signups to my list. Been a waste of money and time to say the least.
      You probably didn't track, you probably didn't bother to read some guides before, and you probably didn't bother trying different angles. :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Pava
    I'm working with LI almost 2 months. No profitable camp. yet. But still trying. Burned about $500. Got back about 20%/
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    • Profile picture of the author david15923
      Originally Posted by Pava View Post

      I'm working with LI almost 2 months. No profitable camp. yet. But still trying. Burned about $500. Got back about 20%/
      What offers are u promoting? Submits, dating, etc. ??
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  • Profile picture of the author Pava
    Dating, finance, media, health. I think that cheap submits is really hard to convert, because of traffic costs. For example you pay 0.015 per 1 view. 1000views = $15. Even if CTR will be 30%, 1000 targeted clicks is = $45. For example dating offer pays $4.5/lead. Your submit ratio should be 1:100 only to make a 0% ROI... think about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Weeks
      Yes, looking at the stats, for most CPA offers the conversion rate is really low, maybe 5% if you are lucky. So, you have to have some awesome CTR to get cheap submits to work. For higher dollar stuff it can still be tough without really high CTR because the traffic costs more. For example, for payday loans you will be paying between 0.03 and 0.10 per view for the majority of views. With a 10% CTR (which is normal), that comes out to between 0.30 and 1.00 per click. With a 1% conversion rate (which is also normal) and a $50 payout, it is almost impossible to make money. So, you have to have a combo of higher CTR than normal and higher payout/conversion rate than normal to get anywhere in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author wizbiz
    Originally Posted by SirTestAlot View Post

    I'm on my 3rd test campaign right now with them and:
    1. It's like pulling teeth trying to include enough high traffic url's to get traffic
    2. The traffic really doesn't seem to convert
    From my first test, I have to agree. LeadImpact basically same as Adf.ly..

    I took profitable campaign from PPC where I got 90%-120% ROI and apply

    to LeadImpact.. What a junk!...Unfortunately they have $200 minimum to start testing.

    I don't even want to test it anymore, have tired of junk traffic.. I'll ask for refund and

    close my account.. In PPC I got like 5-7 clicks with 2 sales and here

    Gazillion junk clicks and not even simple lead conversion? gimme a break.

    POF? same thing.. POF and LI = junk. Sorry. I'm back to my PPC basics,

    when each click actually means something. What a waste of time and money PPV is..

    Originally Posted by Pava View Post

    Dating, finance, media, health. I think that cheap submits is really hard to convert, because of traffic costs. For example you pay 0.015 per 1 view. 1000views = $15. Even if CTR will be 30%, 1000 targeted clicks is = $45. For example dating offer pays $4.5/lead. Your submit ratio should be 1:100 only to make a 0% ROI... think about it.
    Yeah, they actually bump up minimum so it's (0.020) $20 for 1000 views... Hungry and Greedy, Let them

    convert their own junk into $..
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    • Profile picture of the author MTVida
      Originally Posted by wizbiz View Post

      From my first test, I have to agree. LeadImpact basically same as Adf.ly..

      I took profitable campaign from PPC where I got 90%-120% ROI and apply

      to LeadImpact.. What a junk!...Unfortunately they have $200 minimum to start testing.

      I don't even want to test it anymore, have tired of junk traffic.. I'll ask for refund and

      close my account.. In PPC I got like 5-7 clicks with 2 sales and here

      Gazillion junk clicks and not even simple lead conversion? gimme a break.

      POF? same thing.. POF and LI = junk. Sorry. I'm back to my PPC basics,

      when each click actually means something. What a waste of time and money PPV is..
      So you did ONE test, didn't get the results you wanted, and now you're concluding that LI and PPV is garbage?

      For one thing, you should have come in expecting your initial $200 to be your testing budget. Since you're pulling out and asking for a refund before you've even given it a fair go, it's no wonder that you're not seeing success.

      Secondly, the fact that you're saying that LI is basically the same as AdFly tells me that you haven't taken the time to learn about LI and PPV as a traffic source. One of the big reasons AdFly traffic performs so poorly is because it's so untargeted. The only targeting option AdFly has is by country, which basically puts it on the same level as RON traffic. LI on the other hand, let you target by keywords, and most importantly URLs. This is an EXTREMELY powerful tool that they give you when you use it properly.

      I personally made campaigns with 1000% ROI on LI. You just need to think like the marketer that you're supposed to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author w3bTools
    The key to PPV traffic is.... Getting visitors to click through to the offer, meaning your landing page NEEDS to be relevant to the target. 60-70% CTR is fairly easy to get but you need to put in the work. Just put yourself into the visitors shoes and think about your sales funnel from their eyes.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Man stock and make money at home program are hard dude. Heck you can't even get a good click on google for less than 2.00 bucks for those.

    You don't need to find a different niche just use a different software program to find lower paying keywords is all.

    Watch, tweak and retweak, when you find something that works then you rinse and repeat till the soap starts costing too much then you move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author aplchian
    You've made 3 campaigns and you say LeadImpacts traffic doesn't convert? You need to make a lot more campaigns and try many different things before you can say that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janeeb72
    Hi everyone, I've just come across LI and looking to invest in advertising my renovation course. Does anyone know the type of audience I'll be targetting with LI? I read on their website that people opt in to a couple of free video/games websites (Click Potato etc.) and agree to recieve limited pop-up advertisements in return. However, my target audience are aged 35-60 and in Australia or New Zealand. Would I be wasting my money given that people who are going to use Click Potato or their other website are probably younger? Am I missing something? Can anyone offer any alternatives?
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  • Profile picture of the author watsonovedades
    you need to test more and spend more money into it, you need to send to earn
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  • Profile picture of the author jcmoneyman
    Originally Posted by SirTestAlot View Post

    What is up with lead impact. I read all these great reviews about how it's the best ppv company to start out with and they have good traffic etc.

    I'm on my 3rd test campaign right now with them and:
    1. It's like pulling teeth trying to include enough high traffic url's to get traffic
    2. The traffic really doesn't seem to convert

    The ones I thought would work are related to stock trading and making money from home.
    Are these just bad niches to be in for ppv traffic or this network?
    What type of offers work on this type of traffic?

    If you're having success with lead impact what conversion rates are you seeing?

    They also seem to be charging me for more views than my prosper202 is showing, has that been your experience?

    It's been a while since I used Lead Impact. I was just about to renew my account and decided to see how things are first.

    Im glad I found this forum

    I've been using Lead Impact for years (even before name was changed) I last used Lead Impact about a year ago and had VERY good results from it.
    It took me a while to learn that the best way to get high conversions was to target keywords and URLs that are more specific to my ad

    It was especially helpful to use URLs that pointed to subpages. That way, the customer was redirected at the right time. this lead to even higher conversions.

    I hope that helps

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vocalines
    Hi,

    if anyone could show me their succesful campaign I am ready to pay them whatever they want.

    I am not considering those of you who are selling their "marketing course" because if LI is so great why won't they get traffic from LI unstead of posting here with their links with insane claims of 1,000% ROI.... Give me a break!!

    Any one?
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    • Profile picture of the author tuckerfoodservices
      Hey guys,

      Not sure how many people still read this thread but I just came across it after sitting through some training videos on the LI engine that gives a free search tool and Preframe.(worth it just for these).

      I am not associated with or an affiliate of this product!!!

      The videos/training were of Matt Bacak teaching China Dave how to get the best out of PPV and they use LI. I think everyone that reads this thread and want to get the best of PPV should watch these.

      The link is http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-source.html#1

      It was a seminar (I think) turned into a goodwill WSO somewhere here on WF

      Hope this helps everyone

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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    From my first test, I have to agree. LeadImpact basically same as Adf.ly..

    I took profitable campaign from PPC where I got 90%-120% ROI and apply

    to LeadImpact.. What a junk!...Unfortunately they have $200 minimum to start testing.
    You can't just transfer over PPC campaigns, unfortunately that isn't how PPV works at all.

    Also the reason LeadImpact had a $200 minimum is because they realize any experienced CPA marketer would never spend less than $200 testing a new traffic source before making judgements on it.

    Look at networks like TrafficVance, and many media buying network requiring $1000+ to join.
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    How is the quality with leadimpact recently for you guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author vignesh676
    I have been using LI for almost one year but lately from last 3 months or so found the quality of traffic to be more or less junk for keywords. is anyone else facing the same sort of issue?
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  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    Yeah, I would say do not use keywords. Use URL's instead
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  • Profile picture of the author mynameisabhijit
    Yes, lead impact is great. Email/Zip submit offers are converting well with this type of traffic. Don't go for the 2 or 3 page sign ups offer...
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  • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
    Thanks for all the reviews. I have been curious to explore cpa/cpm/cpl networks and this one has been written down to go back to. Seems the positive reviews along with advice supporting them lead me to believe they are decent to deal with.

    Thanks again Warriors!
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  • Profile picture of the author CK Tan
    What is the daily budget marketers use for LI direct linking offers?
    I have set mine to $5 per day, is that acceptable?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyGood
    It depends on offer payout. You won't be able to test out on that budget free trial offer(or it will take ages) but you will be good to go with lead gen offer.

    Thanks,
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