What to expect from Banner Ads?

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Hi,

I am just about to place my first image banner ad campaign on G's Display Network. Campaign is for a product that sales quite well through retail channels.

Primary reason for choosing Display Network's banners was that one completely avoids trademark, direct linking and double-domain problems affiliate will face with AdWords PPC. With banners one can direct link as much as he likes. Only problem is, as I understand, that conversion rates are pathetic in comparison with SEO and search PPC like AdWords.

I am a total newbie with banners, I've only done SEO so far, but SEO is doing very bad for me. What should I expect? What is some average CTR on banner ads? What some typical conversions? Should I go for super targeted sites or just match the demographics?

thanks in the advance. Any shared experience welcome.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randize
    I assume you are doing media buys. There are only 3 metrics that you need to focus for that, your banner CTR, landing CTR and your CR.

    Commonly banner CTR is always lower than 1%, I think this hold true for most display ads as well. Your landing CTR should get above 70%. And if you have been testing the offer else where, you should know the offer CR already. Based on this metrics, you can pretty much calculate how much you can spent on the banner, that's your CPM.

    Regarding targeted sites or match demographics, in the end you still want as much targeted traffic to see your banner. That very much depends on your offer really.

    Honestly I haven't yet done any media buys, but this is from my research and studies, so take it with a pinch of salt.
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    • Profile picture of the author junkdna
      Yeah, I am newbie as well, so thanks anyway. It is good just to have some reference. Testing is unavoidable, but it will not tell you much if you can't tell good from bad.

      Though, I would expect CTR on image banner ads to be much lover than 1%, more like 0.1% or something like that. Than 70% CTR on lending page is really high. Is that realistically possible?

      Anyway, my intention is to direct link to merchant's site, because it seems that Google's Display Network doesn't have anything against it. I read G's policies several times and as far as I can tell, direct linking from Display Network banners doesn't infringe any of their terms. Worth looking at!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randize
    I got the stats from a seminar. And some of my facebook ads are having between .6% - .1% so I believe it's not impossible to achieve below 1%.

    The idea is to control the metrics that we can, aside from the offer CR, there really is nothing we can do about others except the CTR for banner and lander.

    Banner is pre-qualifying your lead, no one would click it if they aren't interested right? So the job of landing page is not to pre-qualify, but to do pre-sell. So if the CTR of this two is not really high, it's our job to optimize and get them as high as we can. There's no one to blame except us, the marketers, for this. Basically the higher the CTR you can get, the better your chances to profit.

    Go give it a try, GDN is good. However people choose direct media buys because they could get around the big G, for obvious reason of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author junkdna
    So basically, with direct linking banner ads, one should, on average, expect 1 click in 100 impressions and than 1 conversion in 100 clicks. Like 1% CTR and 1% conversion. I just need an broad average as a reference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randize
    Erm.. no you misunderstood my point. Landing page CTR is the page you create, this is different from the offer CR or sign-up rates (SUR).

    So your traffic would look something like this:
    Site > Banner/creative > Landing Page > Offer Page

    If you could get 1 click per 100 impression heck yea, you must got a good creatives that speaks to majority of your traffic, I said it's generally will be below 1%. If you doing direct linking, yes you do not need landing page, but whether it's the best option, it's up to your split testing to decide that. Your conversion rate like I said before, can be determined by other traffic. Do a ppc campaign, drive traffic to the offer page, you can probably get the feel of how much it converts.

    Then do the math, if the media that you are buying can give you 1 mil impression, e.g.
    1mil > banner with CTR of .2% = 2000 qualified leads > 2000 then of 75% = 1500 > offer CR of 10% > You would make 150 conversion in total, then depending on your CPA or CPS, multiple that, you could get your total gross.

    And you should start to think in per thousand impression since CPM is the cost of per thousand, and 'generally' is the metrics you would use for display ads. So instead of thinking 100, I'd say think in 1000. It's no right or wrong, just thought it would make your calculation easier.

    If you understand the 3 metrics I mentioned here, just try to do what you can to improve your campaign, and that is the banner and landing page CTRs. Don't expect it will be profitable at first if you never have a profitable campaign in hand. If you already have one, you would already know what you CTRs, and how much can you spend for your CPM.
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    • Profile picture of the author junkdna
      Thanks for the details. But what should one expect as an average number of clicks per ad impression. Should I expect 1 click on banner ad per 10,000 impressions as an average? Or is that too high or too low.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randize
    junkdna, with so many variables, it is really really hard to give that answer. I tell you why, not every marketer will know the CTR of untested banner, without the CTR you wouldn't know how much you can expect. Even with a tested banner with other traffic, bringing the banner to another traffic will have a different affect on your CTR.

    Our job is to get the best CTR for the particular traffic, if you can create a banner with higher CTR than others, you are a better marketer.

    Honestly I wish we all can expect an exact number of clicks per 1000 impression, but that's not how it works. I don't think we should expect, and I don't think it's that important. In the end, it's how we optimize and improve the campaign, I've already given you the expected percentage of CTR that can make your campaign profitable, it's up to you to do the rest. Do you understand what I mean?
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    • Profile picture of the author junkdna
      Thanks. I found this great page, that compares Facebook v. G's Display Network:

      Google Display Network vs. Facebook Advertising | WordStream

      According to above page an average CTR is about 0.4% or 1 click in 250 impressions. So if you are under 0.4% you are doing worst than average and vice verse.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randize
    With the wrong offer and CPM you still can't break even with that CTR. It doesn't matter how much my CTR is as long as I can profit out from it.
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