Experienced affiliates, need some guidance..

I'm not familiar with click booth, but this is something you should be able to easily set up on clickbank. I'd say 50% commission is the low end of acceptable, for your pricepoints I would recommend giving 75% if you really want to attract the most affiliates. Most of the products on clickbank do not offer any affiliate commission unless people buy the product.

Hey Matt, really appreciate the advice, thank you.

Wow 75%.... Havent scaled this yet but im assuming i will have a decent charge back percentage (again it is similar to match.com) so i can't provide a end result only the opportunity to one, which many people obviously dont like..... so giving away 75% is tough considering i may have to deal with charge backs.

Maybe im being too greedy, i do have other other revenue streams in the business besides the $/ monthly revenue...

It just seems by the time im done paying the 4-5% to process the card ..... what am i really making?

Maybe i should just raise my price... i have a three tier pay wall, is that a pro or con?

So its $29.99/m $49.99/m or $79.99/m

Here is the other issue.... i currently change the pricing to test, is that going to go against terms and conditions or something? Rather than spending my own money testing which

price 1, price 2, and price 3 model converts best i figured id do it for free with affiliates traffic..... at the end of the day, they will still get the same cut of the monthly services....

This is why i need an experienced person so they can tell me if im just kidding myself or im being realistic...

So basically 75%+5 for my merchant (high risk) now im down to 20%..... at the end of the day i just want to get the business going so maybe it still makes sense.
What is this that clickbank wants 7.5% per transaction and $1 per sale!? So im supposed to give out 75% to affiliates, 5% to merchant, and 7.5% to clickbank + $1....

The thing is, most CPA networks are unable to effectively provide recurring commission to their affiliates. This means that the actual affiliate only gets paid once, doesn't get recurring commission. So you need to offer a fixed one-time amount per sale.

What it means for you is that you can do things differently. You could calculate your average retention rate, let's say the users quit the rebill after 5 months, which is 5 x $30 = $150, you could give a 50% commission, or around $75 per sale as a one time commission.

IMO, this would be much more appealing to the affiliates, the $75 per sale.

damn this is kind of difficult to do considering i have 3 packages with 3 different price points....


I cant say hey ill give you $49.99 for anyone that signs up...

if im charging $5/m $10/m or $49.99/m and my retention rate is 2 months..... the only time it would make sense is on the high package obviously.... i really do not want to change the business model or way i bill (offer 3 packages) just to utilize affiliates although i see it will be a major part of driving traffic... hmm not sure what to do.

Both of your ideas are decent.. i dont think it could hurt to experiment with shorter forms.. and i dont think it could hurt trying other networks as well..

maybe see if another network or two can review your page and give their thoughts..

Affiliate networks are always going to try to get a higher price per lead from you. Simply put they make more money this way. A couple of points:

Affiliate marketing is a free market in many respects. Affiliates will push traffic to whatever offers get the highest EPC. If your offer has the highest EPC, it will get the affiliates' traffic.

If you are looking to work on the lead model, i.e. paying affiliates per lead, which you then monetize on the back end, then you need to work out how you are going to manage cash-flow. In particular:

When do you wish to break even on the leads back-end monetization?

Are you looking to break even on DAY0?

Or do you have enough float to wait a bit longer?

What I mean by this, is if you buy 1000 leads from a network at $10 each as a test, this would have cost you $10,000. Do you need to recoup that $10,000 from their monetization immediately? Or do you have enough float to be able to wait until, say, day60 until you have broken even?

From seeing the inner workings of advertisers, some insist on having a day0 break even, whereas some of the very large ones in fact plan on waiting 18 months until break even.

The longer you can wait until break even, then the more you can afford to spend per lead to the network, and hence the higher EPC you give the affiliates, and then the higher volume you will receive.

Worthy of note - the 18 month break even merchant is a publicly traded company, and things become a complete different ball game in this sphere.

Thank you, yes ive realized this over time, ive also realized thinking you can just get someones money on first hit may be a bit unrealistic but it has been working, i dont have enough stats to have a real sign up %. It really works just like match does, you sign up i prompt you with payment page, then if you click out your gone.... then i can just keep emaling you a link logged into the site in which everytime you try to perform an action..... it again prompts you payment page.... so considering what ive seen similar type of sites (business model wise) they wait months before they get money, but still ask for it upfront. Again, not enough stats on anything, i will sign up and give large % to affiliates on cj and well see what happens.