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10 years ago

Originally Posted by larryk111

i'm using the Hostgator WEB HOSTING Baby Plan to run my CPA campaigns. not so much traffic.

is it OK? or do i have to change to VPS?

You most likely do not need a VPS at the moment. If you do start looking, stay away from OpenVZ as well. Look for VMware/KVM or Xen.

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lifetalk

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

You most likely do not need a VPS at the moment. If you do start looking, stay away from OpenVZ as well. Look for VMware/KVM or Xen.

I honestly believe you should, at least, justify why you're asking people to simply stay away from OpenVZ. Granted it's one of the virtualization techs that is more open to abuse and overselling, but the tech itself is not faulty. If you can find a reliable provider who manages OpenVZ well, it will perform just as well as (and in some cases outperform) as any other virtualization.

My point here is that labeling a tech as bad, in general, is not fair. It's open to significantly larger abuse issues, but if managed well, it has significantly less overheads compared to the others and can run pretty well.

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Kingfish85

10 years ago

Originally Posted by lifetalk

I honestly believe you should, at least, justify why you're asking people to simply stay away from OpenVZ. Granted it's one of the virtualization techs that is more open to abuse and overselling, but the tech itself is not faulty. If you can find a reliable provider who manages OpenVZ well, it will perform just as well as (and in some cases outperform) as any other virtualization.

My point here is that labeling a tech as bad, in general, is not fair. It's open to significantly larger abuse issues, but if managed well, it has significantly less overheads compared to the others and can run pretty well.

Because OpenVZ isn't true virtualization.

It tends to be oversold.

It tends to be overloaded.

It's based on the Host's kernel.

More than likely, they will compare cheap providers on this thread, that will most likely use VZ and will most certainly be overloaded. There aren't that many VZ providers that manage their nodes well. I'm not "asking" they stay away from it, I'm recommending it. If you want a VM, use a real one, Xen, KVM , VMware etc etc.

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lifetalk

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

Because OpenVZ isn't true virtualization.

It tends to be oversold.

It tends to be overloaded.

It's based on the Host's kernel.

More than likely, they will compare cheap providers on this thread, that will most likely use VZ and will most certainly be overloaded. There aren't that many VZ providers that manage their nodes well. I'm not "asking" they stay away from it, I'm recommending it. If you want a VM, use a real one, Xen, KVM , VMware etc etc.

It's an advanced Chroot, yes.

It tends to be, but the tech itself is not at fault. It's as good as any.

It tends to be overloaded, yes, again, if the host in question can manage it well it performs just as well as any other virtualization tech.

It's based on the host kernel. And that reduces an unneeded overhead for, (as an example) 20 instances of the kernel running on a host node.

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Kingfish85

10 years ago

Originally Posted by lifetalk

It's an advanced Chroot, yes.

It tends to be, but the tech itself is not at fault. It's as good as any.

It tends to be overloaded, yes, again, if the host in question can manage it well it performs just as well as any other virtualization tech.

It's based on the host kernel. And that reduces an unneeded overhead for, (as an example) 20 instances of the kernel running on a host node.

Oh no, I don't disagree with you - those points are correct.

"I" just don't recommend OpenVZ - the resources aren't dedicated, no matter how "burstable" anything is.

there are certain things you cannot install on VZ containers; any type of custom kernels, certain backup tools etc.

I think the reliability and performance is better on VM's that are "Actual" VM's - of course, if they're running on junk nodes, it doesn't make a difference.

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kpmedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kingfish85

no matter how "burstable" anything is.

I know you know this, but the whole "burst" thing is misleading. Too many amateur hosts think it's "extra RAM just in case" and that's not what UBC is. Many customers end up repeating this BS because the "host" did. Sad, really.

I don't have a big issue with OpenVZ vswap, if the host is good. It still shares CPU is the problem. OpenVZ and Virtuozzo both. It's OpenVZ UBC that I avoid, and suggest others do the same.

I prefer Xen. But again, only if the host is good.

And for some things, KVM may be best. And yes, again, only if the host is good.

Personally, I don't care much for KVM because I hate installing the OS from ISO, hence why I like Xen more. I can format a VPS and be up and running again in 5 minutes (max) with Xen images.

VMware and Hyper-V are okay too.
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Bannaz 10 years ago

How much traffic are you expecting?
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RobinInTexas

10 years ago

Originally Posted by larryk111

i'm using the Hostgator WEB HOSTING Baby Plan to run my CPA campaigns. not so much traffic.

is it OK? or do i have to change to VPS?

As long as the site works ok, don't worry and start making $$ When traffic starts to overload the server and you see a response lag, look for another solution.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

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johnnydio

10 years ago

Originally Posted by RobinInTexas

As long as the site works ok, don't worry and start making $$ When traffic starts to overload the server and you see a response lag, look for another solution.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

I was thinking the exact same thing, most likely you will know when you need a VPS server. By the time you get enough traffic you should be able to afford a VPS server, so it wont slow down and interfere with loading time or ROI.

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williamrs

10 years ago

Originally Posted by RobinInTexas

As long as the site works ok, don't worry and start making $$ When traffic starts to overload the server and you see a response lag, look for another solution.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Good advice.

You can start with a normal hosting plan.

When you start doing volume, it will become a problem, but then you just have to move the campaigns to a VPS.

I still use some regular hosting plans for testing nowadays, so it's definitely possible when the volume is low.

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ChrisBa

10 years ago

Originally Posted by larryk111

i'm using the Hostgator WEB HOSTING Baby Plan to run my CPA campaigns. not so much traffic.

is it OK? or do i have to change to VPS?

I think most people would recommend in upgrading, you can find a decent vps for not much more, and you will have peach of mind that you won't be losing leads due to performance of shared hosting. Just our of curiosity, what traffic source are you using?

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kpmedia

10 years ago

Sometimes just finding a better shared host -- i.e., NOT Hostgator/EIG -- is all that's required.

This site has a major hard-on for HG and Godaddy that you don't find anywhere else. I never understand this. Those are terrible hosts that throttle sites. Find one that doesn't do this. Most hosts are better. (Excluding kiddies/amateurs.)

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lifetalk

10 years ago

Originally Posted by kpmedia

This site has a major hard-on for HG and Godaddy that you don't find anywhere else. I never understand this.

Hostgator has done their job at marketing very well. To the most non-tech savvy crowd, they're the first choice because they're just that 'pervasive', so to speak. They're advertising everywhere, and they have 'unlimited' written all over them.

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kpmedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by lifetalk

Hostgator has done their job at marketing very well. To the most non-tech savvy crowd, they're the first choice because they're just that 'pervasive', so to speak. They're advertising everywhere, and they have 'unlimited' written all over them.

It's not just marketing. The marketing is .... not really good, but "pushy" (and deceptive). This site has so many newbies reading old advice by then-newbies is the problem. (I swear nobody ever gets seasoned around here. Too much member churn.) It's a pattern of repeating bad advice.

Compound that with fake "top 10" affiliate lists, and there you go.

But there are so many better hosts out there. Many are older than Hostgator, but they spend their money on good techs and hardware/network, not ads.

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joni99

10 years ago

try vps good for you

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rustynail 10 years ago

Since you are internet- or infopreneur i would recommend you to take a Dedicated server.

You will need lots of domains to be parked in long term. You'll be able to buy additional IP addresses etc.

Host your friends small websites there and they will pay for your dedicated server in long term.

Just be aware and monitor hard disks health properly. You may want raid and disk hotswapping aswell.

In conclusion if you are dedicated to making money in internet in long term then you should look for Dedicated server.
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- DailyIncome 10 years ago
  
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9 years ago

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9 years ago

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davidpham

9 years ago

In my experience, hostgator is not good at all. But yes, if you have no down time for you then you can keep it. At a moment I think you have no reason to move to VPS.

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lrs1995

9 years ago

I'd recommend getting a VPS.
You get a VPS for $5 a month on DigitalOcean (also you can easily find $10 free vouchers online = 2 months of VPS)

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TeKn1qu3z

9 years ago

Baby plan is enough, since you are getting low traffic and takes to build more traffic. VPS is more costly, and the HostGator company they themselves asks you to upgrade.

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