Why don't kickbacks work?

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I don't know jack about any of this stuff but how hard is it to offer someone something for $30 for a free trial. Lead pays $30 and I turn around and tell this person if they sign up, I will send them $10. So they get a free trial + $10. And I get a net profit of $20

What do these networks do on the back end with these kind of leads? Just bombard them with emails and phone calls? I will never see how that will work with people. I get email or a call from someone I don't recognize, I just delete without reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    I don't know jack about any of this stuff but how hard is it to offer someone something for $30 for a free trial. Lead pays $30 and I turn around and tell this person if they sign up, I will send them $10. So they get a free trial + $10. And I get a net profit of $20
    This is hard/cash incentive traffic, and isn't allowed by most networks.

    The network isn't the one calling or emailing the leads the, it is the advertiser on the affiliate network. Since it is their offer.

    I get email or a call from someone I don't recognize, I just delete without reading.
    You don't know how these offer's back-ends and up-sells are worded, some are very direct and well done.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by Newbiemarketer76 View Post

    I don't know jack about any of this stuff but how hard is it to offer someone something for $30 for a free trial. Lead pays $30 and I turn around and tell this person if they sign up, I will send them $10. So they get a free trial + $10. And I get a net profit of $20

    What do these networks do on the back end with these kind of leads? Just bombard them with emails and phone calls? I will never see how that will work with people. I get email or a call from someone I don't recognize, I just delete without reading.
    It's harder to find a network and offer that allows this IMO. I don't know of any that allow this.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulBaker
    Originally Posted by Newbiemarketer76 View Post

    What do these networks do on the back end with these kind of leads? Just bombard them with emails and phone calls? I will never see how that will work with people. I get email or a call from someone I don't recognize, I just delete without reading.
    In most cases it's a credit card submit, not email that they're interested in.
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  • Profile picture of the author RemyMartin
    @Greedy and @ChrisBa

    You guys should try and understand the question before you make a useless post on every thread just to promote your sig.


    @OP,

    If it's a free trial offer, you can best believe the user will have to enter their credit card information. Once the trial is up, these advertisers will bill the user full-price, for whatever garbage it is they are selling / offering.

    That's how they can afford to pay $30+ / lead.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Originally Posted by Newbiemarketer76 View Post

    I don't know jack about any of this stuff but how hard is it to offer someone something for $30 for a free trial. Lead pays $30 and I turn around and tell this person if they sign up, I will send them $10. So they get a free trial + $10. And I get a net profit of $20

    What do these networks do on the back end with these kind of leads? Just bombard them with emails and phone calls? I will never see how that will work with people. I get email or a call from someone I don't recognize, I just delete without reading.
    The logistics can be difficult to manage. How do you track who signed up? How do you verify it and how to do you pay them? Incentive type offers are typically used to build lists and do co reg with other companies. The goal is not the product sale because the company getting this "lead" knows it's pretty much junk, (after all you paid the person to do it right?)

    Yes you and I might gloss over an email from someone we don't know, but the majority of the population isn't wise to it yet. They still think the ads on google are not paid ads! (Or don't even know what a paid ad is). When people start getting wiser to it, the incentive business will morph to something new.

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  • Profile picture of the author Newbiemarketer76
    So basically I can do it?

    From what I gathered, the biggest bitch of this is usually this is a credit card submit offer. and few trust their cc to an obvious crook which is what 96% of this business is. Although I wouldn't steal info but I know others would.
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  • Profile picture of the author mcmcmcmc5
    Yes - this type of rubbish unfortunately happens all the time.

    Obviously terrible quality for the advertiser, so affs who do this kind of stuff have to wash it into other traffic.
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